Advanced Rifle Damage

[SWolf]

This gun is a joke for the pitiful amount of damage it dose barly 5 dmg to someone in hide...

[Fox]

Did a test of the fabricated pistol to hide. A headshot does 30 damage, without armor, it does 105.

[|PHD| lelze]

Gun's are extremely weak sadly.

[Pantong]

ive one shot many a people with long barrel, i though it was op

[MechRaven]

+1
yeah I agree that guns are weak atm but I would not say they are as bad as the OP makes it sound. I am thinking if you only got 5 dmg out of it on a player in hide then maybe they made better quality hide?(ie not the basic/primitive engram version).

[SWolf]

i tested it on a guy in my tribe. i do not make a point to shoot unarmored noobs. with leather armor and a shot to the chest it did 10 damage

[Cuchilain]

the guns work on people. Sure. But this is horrible against dinos. The long rifle is basicly an elephant gun, high caliber, single shot, long range. I placed 20 rounds into the head of a rex. This is stupid. 3 rounds into a scorpion? Unfair. It takes real effort to make these guns, then to make the bullets.

The fabricated rifle is incredibly expensive. I have a 3 man tribe, and we have built a camp on a mountain slope where we can use our ankylos to gather much sparkpowder, gunpowder, and metal for bullets. So our strength lies in our ability to gather and make bullets. We attempt to play to this strength by creating various guns to test in caves in order to get chitin and obsidian. This is unbelievably expensive, and if we were to gather up 100 bullets for each of our three people, it would take an hour or two. If we then dove into the cave with our pistols and bullets, we would die because the pistols are so weak, the enemies shred us. Even if we make it past several groups of mobs, we are now done with our 100 bullets. In this dive, we have barely gathered enough to make a bit of the paste. A cave dive rewards around 150 chitin on a lucky run. A fabricated rifle needs around 170 paste. Thats 680 chitin.

I am 100% for all the time and effort it takes for one gun. FULLY SUPPORT the expense of creating these guns. But damn. THEY ARE WEAK. A bullet should realisticly have enough bang to drop a scorpion or bat in 3 or 4 bullets. With the price of bullets, plus the misses in shots, the effort to make enough bullets to be supplied to survive a cave dive, i think that a careful shooter should be able to wipe out a horde of spiders with a clip. Then reload, and take out those 4 boas behind the spiders.

MORE POWER TO GUNS AGAINST DINOS.

[Rikimaru55]

Originally posted by Cuchilain:

MORE POWER TO GUNS AGAINST DINOS.

Not to mention they brake down after maybe 3-5 minutes, imagine that on the battlefield it would never work in a war, i have never seen such ridiculous wear before, this also goes for armor and tools to be honest but is the biggest problem for the assault rifle when you need like 300 bullets for a t-rex and the weapons break before you can even come close to hurting it.

Weapons against dinos need a huge damage buff up to 500% tbh.

And i would argue that a headshot against anything else than full flak should be instakill.

[Jyandalf]

My journeyman long neck rifle is my best friend on the server.

I can two shot most low level dinos and pretty much one shot nearly any argentavis or pteranodon

[SketchboyQ]

Originally posted by Elias79:

Originally posted by Cuchilain:

MORE POWER TO GUNS AGAINST DINOS.

Not to mention they brake down after maybe 3-5 minutes, imagine that on the battlefield it would never work in a war, i have never seen such ridiculous wear before, this also goes for armor and tools to be honest but is the biggest problem for the assault rifle when you need like 300 bullets for a t-rex and the weapons break before you can even come close to hurting it.

Weapons against dinos need a huge damage buff up to 500% tbh.

I think they are trying to balance guns to where they are mainly for humans or else u will hear about ppl saying their lvl 200 Rex got one shotted by a sniper I think guns are fairly normal in my op

[Rikimaru55]

Originally posted by SketchboyQ:

Originally posted by Elias79:

Not to mention they brake down after maybe 3-5 minutes, imagine that on the battlefield it would never work in a war, i have never seen such ridiculous wear before, this also goes for armor and tools to be honest but is the biggest problem for the assault rifle when you need like 300 bullets for a t-rex and the weapons break before you can even come close to hurting it.

Weapons against dinos need a huge damage buff up to 500% tbh.

I think they are trying to balance guns to where they are mainly for humans or else u will hear about ppl saying their lvl 200 Rex got one shotted by a sniper I think guns are fairly normal in my op

Yes we do understand that but im not even playing on pvp so we NEED another kind of balancing for pve servers.

[Opie]

So if it 5 damage to someone in hide (20 armor) then you by that math if should only do 1 damage to someone in flak (100 armor)?