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Giganotosaurus stack mutations
Hey guys! I've been working hard on mutations lately, and last week I started mutating with giga's. I decided to only go for melee damage mutations because health and stamina are pretty much useless on giga's. Well, everything went fine until I reached 350% melee damage. I just couldn't get it higher after that. I'm on a singleplayer world and I haven't changed any rates whatsoever. Maybe it's supposed to be like this but i'd like to know for sure. Thanks in advance!
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Charcharodonto Jan 18, 2021 @ 1:59pm 
There are two possibilities.

A, you mutated correctly with the mutations on the male and clean females. In this case the reason it is not going up is because your male reached 20/20 mutations, so only the females can grant mutations to the baby, cutting your chance for mutations in half. As such it will simply take twice as long ebfore you see a new mutation.

B, you mutated incorrectly and now both your male and females have reached 20/20 mutations. once a parent reaches 20/20 it can't grant mutations to it's offpsring so both parents are locked out now, thus no mutations.
Last edited by Charcharodonto; Jan 18, 2021 @ 1:59pm
Evasaurus_Rex Jan 19, 2021 @ 4:51am 
Originally posted by Charcharodonto:
There are two possibilities.

A, you mutated correctly with the mutations on the male and clean females. In this case the reason it is not going up is because your male reached 20/20 mutations, so only the females can grant mutations to the baby, cutting your chance for mutations in half. As such it will simply take twice as long ebfore you see a new mutation.

B, you mutated incorrectly and now both your male and females have reached 20/20 mutations. once a parent reaches 20/20 it can't grant mutations to it's offpsring so both parents are locked out now, thus no mutations.
thanks for the reply, but the giga's are perfectly stacked as far as I know. I have 12 mutations on the patrilineall side and none on the matrilineal side.
Monete Jan 19, 2021 @ 5:23am 
Did you keep a m and f perfect pair pre-mutations with 0 mutations?
If you keep breeding the mutated ones with one "clean" dino with 0 mutations, you can keep going with mutations, but it does get harder and harder to get them without mods.

What I always do is, when I have the original breeding pair of dinos, I wait to get from them a max level male and female. I call them mama and papa.

These are the "clean" 0 mutation dinos to keep breeding your mutated ones with to try get more mutations.

Since you have both a clean m and f, it doesn't matter what gender you mutated one is, all the mutations will stack to one side and leave the other side empty for more.

Edit: typos
Last edited by Monete; Jan 19, 2021 @ 5:24am
what do you mean "I just couldn't get it higher after that."? Are they not getting more mutations? Is the melee going up in levels but no % increase? Need more details
Serangel Jan 19, 2021 @ 7:20am 
If your only on 12 mutations, sounds like unlucky RNG. You might have had great RNG up to this point and now it's bending you over. How many females are you using?
Evasaurus_Rex Jan 20, 2021 @ 11:17am 
Originally posted by 𝓝𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓸𝓫𝓸𝓲:
what do you mean "I just couldn't get it higher after that."? Are they not getting more mutations? Is the melee going up in levels but no % increase? Need more details
The melee damage percantage won't go any higher than 350%
edit: I get health mutations all the time though, stamina too. It's only the melee damage that's doing weird crap.
Last edited by Evasaurus_Rex; Jan 20, 2021 @ 11:20am
Evasaurus_Rex Jan 20, 2021 @ 11:18am 
Originally posted by Serangel:
If your only on 12 mutations, sounds like unlucky RNG. You might have had great RNG up to this point and now it's bending you over. How many females are you using?
I'm using 2 females at the moment
Charcharodonto Jan 20, 2021 @ 11:31am 
Yeap.. you are just experiencing RNG then

The chance of a mutation is roughly 4-5% when one parent is not 20/20 yet
The chance of a mutation landing on the melee stat is 1/7
The chance of the baby getting the higher melee from it's parent is 55%

So you have a roughly 0.4% of a melee mutation landing on the higher mutated melee stat.

In order words, if you were to hatch 250 eggs, on average 1 will be with a higher melee mutation then the mutated parent.

Only way to speed this up, is using more females so that you produce more eggs per breeding cycle
GobboKirk Jan 20, 2021 @ 1:48pm 
Originally posted by Charcharodonto:
Only way to speed this up, is using more females so that you produce more eggs per breeding cycle
Or play with the breeding rates.
But same result in the end.. More eggs :dodoegg:
Evasaurus_Rex Jan 21, 2021 @ 3:47am 
Originally posted by Charcharodonto:
Yeap.. you are just experiencing RNG then

The chance of a mutation is roughly 4-5% when one parent is not 20/20 yet
The chance of a mutation landing on the melee stat is 1/7
The chance of the baby getting the higher melee from it's parent is 55%

So you have a roughly 0.4% of a melee mutation landing on the higher mutated melee stat.

In order words, if you were to hatch 250 eggs, on average 1 will be with a higher melee mutation then the mutated parent.

Only way to speed this up, is using more females so that you produce more eggs per breeding cycle
Thanks! At least I know what's the problem now. Defenitily going to try this.
Evasaurus_Rex Jan 21, 2021 @ 3:47am 
Originally posted by GobboKirk:
Originally posted by Charcharodonto:
Only way to speed this up, is using more females so that you produce more eggs per breeding cycle
Or play with the breeding rates.
But same result in the end.. More eggs :dodoegg:
I'll keep it in mind!
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Date Posted: Jan 18, 2021 @ 1:10pm
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