Spino speed vs giga speed

[Senpaija]

I got a weird question regarding speed. Spinos seemed pretty fast in general, so I decided to put a ton of points into the spino with highest speed (43), just for fun to see how fast I could go. The spino now has 193% speed and 100% imprint 2x (I assume 40% imprint bonus instead of 20%).

It was fun travelling across the map on this speedy spino, especially when going for desert loot crates, however... There just so happens to be a lvl 102 giga close to two of the crates and I have no way to kill or tame it atm.
Now I'm wondering, would this spino be able to actually outrun a giga? I know a galli can outrun giga, I highly doubt even a spino with almost 200% speed and 2x normal imprint can outrun it, but still curious and wondering.

[💠 Λ M P E R E 💠]

Worth looking at the Ark.fandom pages for spino and giga to see their sprinting stats. If you've levelled the spino in speed you're probably gravy. Wild gigas sprint at '1681.7' and tamed spinos sprint at '1717.6'.

[Senpaija]

Originally posted by 💠 Λ M P E R E 💠:

Worth looking at the Ark.fandom pages for spino and giga to see their sprinting stats. If you've levelled the spino in speed you're probably gravy. Wild gigas sprint at '1681.7' and tamed spinos sprint at '1717.6'.

So a regular spino can outrun a giga and literally nobody ever mentioned this fact? That seems strange to me, are spinos really that unloved?

I pretty much checked the speed for all creatures, apparently procoptodon is faster than a giga too, and they are prettty common, so I would probably use them as test subject. If ark fandom is right, a regular spino should not be able to run faster than a procoptodon, however the speedy spino should outrun it by far... I hope that'll be the case.

[💠 Λ M P E R E 💠]

Given the spino has 35.9 sprint speed in it's favour, it won't be leaving the giga in the dust. All your levels in speed will change that though. It's also likely that the giga will aggro to something else rather than pursue you for any great distance.

Gallimimus are also very fast mounts, but the spino is strong in rivers where it's water buff means it doesn't suffer the water slowdown 'penalty' that most fast land mounts do.

Also, since the spino is a big carnivore you won't be subject to attacks from raptors, carnos, thylas, etc.. when traversing the world.

Good luck.

[Senpaija]

I was able to outrun both alpha raptors and gallimimus, so giga should not be an issue thankfully

[[BRTD]Luewen]

Imprint bonus is always 20% if 100% imprinted.

[Senpaija]

Originally posted by BRTDLuewen:

Imprint bonus is always 20% if 100% imprinted.

If that was the case, my paracer with 10k hp would gain 2k hp from full imprint, but they get 4k. 20%, 40%, 60%, 80%, 100%, 2k, 4k, 6k, 8k, 10k, makes sense?

[[BRTD]Luewen]

Originally posted by Senpaija:

Originally posted by BRTDLuewen:

Imprint bonus is always 20% if 100% imprinted.

If that was the case, my paracer with 10k hp would gain 2k hp from full imprint, but they get 4k. 20%, 40%, 60%, 80%, 100%, 2k, 4k, 6k, 8k, 10k, makes sense?

Getting full imprint gives them 20% of base stat bonus other than oxygen and stamina. (speed on flyers.) And is not subject to any additive or subtraction modifiers. Thats why you get so much health on giga imprint as its calculated on health value before hp penalty. Unless you have added a mod that changes stat multipliers or you have done that yourself from settings.

[Senpaija]

Originally posted by BRTDLuewen:

Originally posted by Senpaija:

If that was the case, my paracer with 10k hp would gain 2k hp from full imprint, but they get 4k. 20%, 40%, 60%, 80%, 100%, 2k, 4k, 6k, 8k, 10k, makes sense?

Getting full imprint gives them 20% of base stat bonus other than oxygen and stamina. (speed on flyers.) And is not subject to any additive or subtraction modifiers. Thats why you get so much health on giga imprint as its calculated on health value before hp penalty. Unless you have added a mod that changes stat multipliers or you have done that yourself from settings.

Wait, you said it ain't subject to any modifiers, but aren't settings exactly that? Dude, I play single player and can garantee you the imprint bonus is higher, because I made it so. I'll just unsubscribe, this is silly.

[[BRTD]Luewen]

Originally posted by Senpaija:

Originally posted by BRTDLuewen:

Getting full imprint gives them 20% of base stat bonus other than oxygen and stamina. (speed on flyers.) And is not subject to any additive or subtraction modifiers. Thats why you get so much health on giga imprint as its calculated on health value before hp penalty. Unless you have added a mod that changes stat multipliers or you have done that yourself from settings.

Wait, you said it ain't subject to any modifiers, but aren't settings exactly that? Dude, I play single player and can garantee you the imprint bonus is higher, because I made it so. I'll just unsubscribe, this is silly.

No, settings change stat multipliers and imprint bonus applies to base stats of creature. If you change creature stat multipliers those become new base value. Imprint does not effect taming additive etc values.

Only way to get more than 20% bonus is changing BabyImprintingStatScaleMultiplier.

[💠 Λ M P E R E 💠]

Originally posted by BRTDLuewen:

Originally posted by Senpaija:

Wait, you said it ain't subject to any modifiers, but aren't settings exactly that? Dude, I play single player and can garantee you the imprint bonus is higher, because I made it so. I'll just unsubscribe, this is silly.

No, settings change stat multipliers and imprint bonus applies to base stats of creature. If you change creature stat multipliers those become new base value. Imprint does not effect taming additive etc values.

Only way to get more than 20% bonus is changing BabyImprintingStatScaleMultiplier.

Seems reasonable.