Tips for defending against Alpha attacks on a PvE server?

[✝ Gamlingwine]

I thought PVP was too much for me, but as soon as the first Alpha approached me things have become even worst than playing against KOS'ing tribes.

So can anyone supply tricks to prevent too much Alpha damage? Like, building floors on an elevated platform sustained by pilons? We are just 3 people and not even lvl 25, we can't even saddle most decent dinosaurs and this lvl 16 raptor literally destroyed every player base in the zone.

All our dinos are dead, the buildings completely destroyed. I can't talk to the administrator for now so no possibility of weakening them through the server settings. Anyone that can help has my gratitude.

[TheLogicalCow]

Publicado originalmente por Milo äl Lungubard:

I thought PVP was too much for me, but as soon as the first Alpha approached me things have become even worst than playing against KOS'ing tribes.

So can anyone supply tricks to prevent too much Alpha damage? Like, building floors on an elevated platform sustained by pilons? We are just 3 people and not even lvl 25, we can't even saddle most decent dinosaurs and this lvl 16 raptor literally destroyed every player base in the zone.

All our dinos are dead, the buildings completely destroyed. I can't talk to the administrator for now so no possibility of weakening them through the server settings. Anyone that can help has my gratitude.

Really? its not that bad... get a few spinos and its ez

[Pete]

Build everything out of metal I guess, since according to patch notes alphas can only destroy up to stone tier.

Just happened to me too in single player. One 112 level alpha raptor came out of nowhere and killed my 2 60lvl trikes, 96 lvl raptor, some carbo and 2 paras...all my dinos. Killed me in 4 hits even though I had full chitin armor and 250hp :(

[DrizzintahlTTV]

Cow, you know nothing of his server settings, difficulty, ect... if this apocalypse happened, "its not that bad" is kind of a silly thing to say, trumped only by "get a few spinos and its ez" since he already stated he's not even 25 yet.

[Malkuth]

Publicado originalmente por DrizzintahL:

Cow, you know nothing of his server settings, difficulty, ect... if this apocalypse happened, "its not that bad" is kind of a silly thing to say, trumped only by "get a few spinos and its ez" since he already stated he's not even 25 yet.

Thats the stanard quote of most high level players that have all day to tame up high level spinos and rexs. They don't know any better, becaus its been awhile since they were level 23. ;)

Anyway your best bet for surviving is to hold out for the next patch. They are only going to concentrate alpha in the mountain regions. The reduction of damage to stone is pretty much useless since all this means is it takes longer to get you. . :)

Stick around your bases and use those spy glasses to find out what they are before you appoach them.

Also flying mounts can help. You can do a recon of your area of operations and see if its safe to go out or not.

To be honest I like this.. You should be scared to go outside... And make sure of your surroundings. But next patch you should be a little safer.. maybe.

[Skeldarkday]

The next update suppose to have the alphas spawn inland and mountains so you should be ok after 196.0.

[Lusewing]

While I have not had chance to test it yet you might want to try using Dimo's. Due to their small size they are very hard for the Rex's and Carno's to hit yet thay are also very quick to tame and find. Having a few might work to distract Alpha's while you get away if you are out in the open (practice your whistles to keep good control)

Ive also heard tell that Alphas will not attack buildings if they see no reason to, thus building a high wall and having your dinos away from said wall should stop any passing Alpha from attacking your base.

[Malkuth]

Putting a roof over your dinos is a good idea no matter what. But your on a PVE server so it was not as important before.

But now with the alpha rex.. might want to reconsider it. If they can't see your dinos. They won't attack.

[{LCD}Bloodlet-VT]

Today I had just tamed a new trike. I was actually on the naming screen when I got back attacked by a lvl 4 alpha raptor. Ten seconds later The Trike, Me, My high lvl Argentavis and two high lvl Dimorphodons were dead.
I'm level 66 and was wearing full flak armour.
When I returned to the area on a second Argentavis and found my gear the raptor was busy killing everything that moved and didn't appear to be taking any damage at all.
Seriously I like a challenge but that is just ridiculas !

[Wolfman-RIP]

Publicado originalmente por Milo äl Lungubard:

I thought PVP was too much for me, but as soon as the first Alpha approached me things have become even worst than playing against KOS'ing tribes.

So can anyone supply tricks to prevent too much Alpha damage? Like, building floors on an elevated platform sustained by pilons? We are just 3 people and not even lvl 25, we can't even saddle most decent dinosaurs and this lvl 16 raptor literally destroyed every player base in the zone.

All our dinos are dead, the buildings completely destroyed. I can't talk to the administrator for now so no possibility of weakening them through the server settings. Anyone that can help has my gratitude.

I will give you some tips on how to buld a base that works against wild dinos of all types.

1. Wood spikes are your best defence against Raptors, Dilo,s Carno's and even T-Rex. I have had T-Rex's die on my wood spikes while I sat and did nothing.

2. Metal Spikes are the upgrade you might want for Alpha Dino's. If wood spikes kill normal rex. Metal should kill Alpha rex.

3. Build your base at the center of a fenced off Pen to prevent damage to your house from the occasional wild dino.

4. Get a fence around your base with a small Dino pen ASAP. Start off with a 2 high fence with spikes against it. Don't leave any gaps where a Dino could see you. No windows or doors open. You and your dinos need to stay away from the fence and out of sight. This by far keeps Dino's from EVER attacking your base as they don't even know you excist.

5. Get your walls 4 high and keep dinos at least 20 meters away from the walls so they don't aggro anything on the other side of the walls. You EVENTUALLY need it 4 high to prevent Spino's from claimbing into your base and T-Rexs from seeing you in your base.

6. Build your house with a Dino gate as one of the enterences. Keep the smaller tamed dino's inside your own house with you. Wild dino's won't even know they excist.


Most people are surviving just fine with 4 high wood walls and wood spikes on PVE servers. The trick is to go unoticed. Wild dino's ignore bases if your inside your house and none of your dino's are near the walls. Raptors "sometimes" aggro tamed dino's through walls but that can be prevented by keeping your dinos away from the walls and yourself away from them.

What works for me is 4 high walls, Spikes and keeping my smalll dino's INSIDE my own house. I keep my Raptors, Anky's, Dodo's and Petra inside my own house next to my bed :P. It prevents them being seen by wild dinos.

[cailean_556]

I play on a PvP server but the mechanics should be the same. As with what Wolfman said, wooden/metal spikes around the perimeter. The larger the dino, the more damage they take. Obviously you need to get to the level required to get the engram (15?), so craft a lot of things - start by making walls and foundations (use floor foundations to mark out your base area and then replace those with fence foundations when possible - then build your walls (wood preferably but if you have to start with thatch - just for the XP - then do so.

Obviously, wooden walls are your first serious defence but upgrade to stone as quick as possible. You will eventually need to upgrade to metal (the only tier Alphas can't destroy) walls. 2-3 high initially will stop most dinos, but ultimately 4 is ideal. Lay spikes around the external perimeter. Depending on base layout, put up small battlements in each corner which you can shoot from.

Make friends with nearby, established tribes. If they can build auto-turrets and generators, ask if they can build some for you (and associated wiring required, you will obviously have to get the mats for them to even consider helping, or sweeten the deal with them somehow). If they don't want to build auto-turrets (which is understandable), ask if they can send a Rex/Spino or high level "war spec'd" Carno to assist if you're attacked by an alpha. Alphas give very good XP and loot, so if they're trying to level their creatures, most tribes will not shy away from engaging an Alpha.

[Jeza]

Just one thing about alphas not attacking bases if tey don't see you and wooden pikes being helpful : watch this video https://youtu.be/UFA-mTQgO2M at around 3:40 and tell me what you think ?

Now maybe after respawning in the small hut the guy wen tout and got spotted, but I'm not sure but even then, wooden spikes ? useless :(

[✝ Gamlingwine]

Publicado originalmente por Wolfman-RIP:

Publicado originalmente por Milo äl Lungubard:

I thought PVP was too much for me, but as soon as the first Alpha approached me things have become even worst than playing against KOS'ing tribes.

So can anyone supply tricks to prevent too much Alpha damage? Like, building floors on an elevated platform sustained by pilons? We are just 3 people and not even lvl 25, we can't even saddle most decent dinosaurs and this lvl 16 raptor literally destroyed every player base in the zone.

All our dinos are dead, the buildings completely destroyed. I can't talk to the administrator for now so no possibility of weakening them through the server settings. Anyone that can help has my gratitude.

I will give you some tips on how to buld a base that works against wild dinos of all types.

1. Wood spikes are your best defence against Raptors, Dilo,s Carno's and even T-Rex. I have had T-Rex's die on my wood spikes while I sat and did nothing.

2. Metal Spikes are the upgrade you might want for Alpha Dino's. If wood spikes kill normal rex. Metal should kill Alpha rex.

3. Build your base at the center of a fenced off Pen to prevent damage to your house from the occasional wild dino.

4. Get a fence around your base with a small Dino pen ASAP. Start off with a 2 high fence with spikes against it. Don't leave any gaps where a Dino could see you. No windows or doors open. You and your dinos need to stay away from the fence and out of sight. This by far keeps Dino's from EVER attacking your base as they don't even know you excist.

5. Get your walls 4 high and keep dinos at least 20 meters away from the walls so they don't aggro anything on the other side of the walls. You EVENTUALLY need it 4 high to prevent Spino's from claimbing into your base and T-Rexs from seeing you in your base.

6. Build your house with a Dino gate as one of the enterences. Keep the smaller tamed dino's inside your own house with you. Wild dino's won't even know they excist.


Most people are surviving just fine with 4 high wood walls and wood spikes on PVE servers. The trick is to go unoticed. Wild dino's ignore bases if your inside your house and none of your dino's are near the walls. Raptors "sometimes" aggro tamed dino's through walls but that can be prevented by keeping your dinos away from the walls and yourself away from them.

What works for me is 4 high walls, Spikes and keeping my smalll dino's INSIDE my own house. I keep my Raptors, Anky's, Dodo's and Petra inside my own house next to my bed :P. It prevents them being seen by wild dinos.

Didn't expect so many comments, but thanks everyone. Yours Wolfman, was the most useful. I'll take your tips into account. I've just built an elevated base built on 5 pilons or so, three pilons tall+foundation+2walls. The foundation is walled with a stone wall. I'm gonna put a pen with all my future dinos around it.

Regarding what some others have said about the 196, I hope they do limit the alphas to more remote regions where low level players don't dare venture into. This one came straight from a small forest on the distance and attacked our base on the beach. Sigh.

[✝ Gamlingwine]

Publicado originalmente por Martin:

Publicado originalmente por TheLogicalCow:

Really? its not that bad... get a few spinos and its ez

He's lv 25 how is he going to get a few spinos? Can you even remember being level 25.. he problably doesnt even have a few narcotics.. lets alone the thousands needed for a few spinos.

Minimum wall height is 3+foundation. Suggested wall height is 6+foundation. Even 6 thatch is better then 3 stone. With 3 he can see you. And will not stop until he cannot see you.

We did have quite a bit of narcotics, but certainly not enough to tame anything but a few trikes. lol

[Santor]

at your level, if you do not have anything to kill it, you have no option but to lure it. If you have a bird, you can lure is far away. If you dont, make a sacrifice, empty your inventory, get out there and run by it as far away as you can get. itll catch you, but hopefully you will lure it far so it can focus on other prays.

[Santor]

if it doenst work at the first try, respawn to your bed, and do it again.