whats the point of stone tier when reinforced door so weak?

[Inthewasteland]

i dont quite get it. people seem to be able to bust down my reinforced door in no time at all--WITHOUT explosives. Its stupid. Its like a bank putting in a huge vault door, and then putting a standard sheetrock wall next to it....

Can we get a true stone door that actually is hard to break down?

[Relai]

I always have a vestibule. So they have to break 2 doors down at least. But I think it doesn´t really matter for high level players. They just use their dinos and destroy any stone walls if they want to.

[Inthewasteland]

Originally posted by Relai:

I always have a vestibule. So they have to break 2 doors down at least. But I think it doesn´t really matter for high level players. They just use their dinos and destroy any stone walls if the want to.

lol--i actually did the exact same thing last night--built a vestibule just so they would at least have to work a little harder to get in.

[【Ｎｉｃｅ Ｈｉｓｓ】]

Reinforced doors take quite a long time to destroy with metal tools. With three people it can take 8+ minutes just to destroy on door.

If your base is built smart with multiple empty passages and doors leading nowhere, it could easily take an hour just to find your loot.

Of course, if you are offline, no amount of doors will save you, as it should be.

[Inthewasteland]

Originally posted by Wotsa:

Reinforced doors take quite a long time to destroy with metal tools.

whats a "long time" 5 minutes? i logged out for roughly 30 minutes last night, and when i logged back in my reinforced door was gone, and my bed was destroyed, and most of my stuff was stolen.

[【Ｎｉｃｅ Ｈｉｓｓ】]

Originally posted by inthewasteland:

Originally posted by Wotsa:

Reinforced doors take quite a long time to destroy with metal tools.

whats a "long time" 5 minutes? i logged out for roughly 30 minutes last night, and when i logged back in my reinforced door was gone, and my bed was destroyed, and most of my stuff was stolen.

For a single person with a bunch of pikes/hatches, it takes about 15+ minutes a door.

With a group of people, anything will go down quick.


And just so you know, reinforced doors have the same strength as stone walls, the only difference is that they have a little less health. The reason why they have less health is to discourage people from just blowing up you walls and bypassing your doors; which is a good thing.

If doors were the same health as walls, people would just knock down your walls and go straight for your loot instead.

[Shackled]

Tbh, with grenades, a stone door takes 5ish grenades.

A stone ceiling seems to take 6 and a wall 6-7.

So by just having 1 extra nade the door feels kinda useless anyway.


i play on an unofficial server, not sure if the damage values on explosives to structures has been modified in anyway, but thats the way it is for me

[【Ｎｉｃｅ Ｈｉｓｓ】]

Originally posted by Shackled:

Tbh, with grenades, a stone door takes 5ish grenades.

A stone ceiling seems to take 6 and a wall 6-7.

So by just having 1 extra nade the door feels kinda useless anyway.


i play on an unofficial server, not sure if the damage values on explosives to structures has been modified in anyway, but thats the way it is for me

Pretty much this. Buffing stone doors does nothing against grenades.

[Revolverheld]

metal stuff is a ♥♥♥♥♥ to make, stone is the second best so if you're like me and dont want to put in the effort to make metal structures then stone is your best option.

[Inthewasteland]

yeah, grenades i understand, but being able to destroy by metal tools should be harder for sure.

[Shackled]

Originally posted by Revolverheld:

metal stuff is a ♥♥♥♥♥ to make, stone is the second best so if you're like me and dont want to put in the effort to make metal structures then stone is your best option.

tbh trilobites made chitin gathering fairly easy and even the insects go down in 1 pop if you use a metal pike and have a few points into melee damage.

The hardest thing to actually gather out of metal structures is the stone, not even kidding.

[Kyutaru]

Originally posted by inthewasteland:

i dont quite get it. people seem to be able to bust down my reinforced door in no time at all--WITHOUT explosives. Its stupid. Its like a bank putting in a huge vault door, and then putting a standard sheetrock wall next to it....

Can we get a true stone door that actually is hard to break down?

By the time you're in stone tier, you're not using doors to keep people out. You're using gates. Build a stone castle and use the stone dinosaur gates to keep people outside. It fits the theme better anyway.

Or just build a string of doors to add up hitpoints.