ARK: Survival Evolved

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Wikumos Aug 5, 2015 @ 6:41am
Regarding Alpha Trex !
Firstly, since it is the alpha, shouldn't other wild dinos NOT attack it, cause they'd sense its alpha status?

Couple things I was thinking about this Alpha trex that weren't making sense...

Firstly, it is alot stronger than any other dino on the island, ummmm.....won't it go around killing everything, until a player comes up to it and manages to take it out?

Which leads to my 2nd thought, that's connected to the first, won't that make the buff that the Alpha gives,pointless? Is said that the alpha gives a buff to all carnivores that makes their attacks stronger....won't that also be applied to the player's dino trying to kill it? Making the alpha easier to kill?

Also, won't buff also apply to any carnivore the alpha trex runs into that attacks it? So basically 2 wild trexs attack the alpha, in the wild...the alpha will be giving the 2 wild trexs a buff that will increase the damage they do, in effect helping them kill the alpha even easier.

As a result, either the wild dinos will get buffed and kill the alpha, before players find it, or at very least do a very nice chunk of damage to the alpha, so once players do find it, the alpha trex will only be at half health (alot easier still).

Perhaps what they need to do is make it so the alpha trex ONLY targets tamed dinos and players, and somehow make it so other wild carnivores don't attack an alpha, so it just wonders till a player finds it, or it finds another alpha (if more than 1 can spawn at a time), and of course target any tamed dino it comes acrossed.

Maybe do what I've seen done in alot of mmo's for boss-type things, since you don't want to just keep giving insame amounts of hps to things, or insame hit damage%..maybe give it a really fast healing rate. This way alot of the damage being done, will just be mitigated via the healing, have to hit past the healing rate to do 'some' damage to its overall hps.
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Wikumos Aug 5, 2015 @ 7:13am 
has anyone else thought that maybe this buff on the alpha can be counterproductive to its existance?
All of your concerns are pointless until you actually see him in-game. You dont know if he attacks other dinos or if other dinos attack him. I think they wont and the alpha rex will just roam the Island not attacking anything not being attacked by anything, waiting for players :P
Last edited by Jøsephi Krakøwski; Aug 5, 2015 @ 7:16am
Shaden Ro Aug 5, 2015 @ 7:19am 
nothing attacks a T rex but another Rex or a spino anyway
Originally posted by DanteYoda:
I hope it looks like this..

https://mbtimetraveler.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/t-rex-on-a-mission.jpg

I really hope that once we get sci-fi tier we'll get mecha-rex boss as well.
PocketYoda Aug 5, 2015 @ 7:30am 
Originally posted by LookingForGroup:
Originally posted by DanteYoda:
I hope it looks like this..

https://mbtimetraveler.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/t-rex-on-a-mission.jpg

I really hope that once we get sci-fi tier we'll get mecha-rex boss as well.
That would cause fear..
Wikumos Aug 5, 2015 @ 7:50am 
What got me thinking about this, was Jat's post last night about trapping the thing behind walls in a player's base, to give the dinos their the damage boost that alphas give.

Just didn't make alot of sense, that it gives us a boost, that 'helps' us kill it easier lol (well not us directly, but the dinosaurs we are riding & attacking with).

Also, will more than 1 be able to spawn on a map , at a time? So if some tribe does trap one, for the boost, does that mean they'll prevent other alpha rex's from spawning?
Deadman Aug 5, 2015 @ 7:51am 
Is there anything that attacks a T rex anyways? Pretty sure the rex has to hit it first.
Last edited by Deadman; Aug 5, 2015 @ 7:52am
Kesaro Aug 5, 2015 @ 7:54am 
The Alpha only boosts Carno's, and Carno's and T-Rexes don't combat eachother. It will also definately roflstomp any other creatures that attack it, but I think that's kind of the point.

Alot of your concerns seem to be stemmed from both a lack of understanding (assuming you read the notes on the Alpha fully) and the assumption that the Alpha would be weak enough to take serious threat from Wild Dinos.
We've already seen how a normal T-Rex can clear entire beach and riverfronts of their herbivore population without even breaking a sweat. I think the Alpha could handle it just fine.
Originally posted by Wikumos:
What got me thinking about this, was Jat's post last night about trapping the thing behind walls in a player's base, to give the dinos their the damage boost that alphas give.

Just didn't make alot of sense, that it gives us a boost, that 'helps' us kill it easier lol (well not us directly, but the dinosaurs we are riding & attacking with).

Also, will more than 1 be able to spawn on a map , at a time? So if some tribe does trap one, for the boost, does that mean they'll prevent other alpha rex's from spawning?

He most likely meant your dinos. You will have to use your pack of animals and other people to kill this thing but it just naturally gives the buff to all dinos near. So you want to get your dinos near hime to be buffed by the rex himself and kill it.

Originally posted by Kesaro:
The Alpha only boosts Carno's, and Carno's and T-Rexes don't combat eachother. It will also definately roflstomp any other creatures that attack it, but I think that's kind of the point.

I think it affects all carinovores. They used the short term Carnis which confused me as well to thinking Carnos, but its probably short for Carnivores not Carnotaurus. And spino attacks rexes.
Last edited by Jøsephi Krakøwski; Aug 5, 2015 @ 8:03am
PocketYoda Aug 5, 2015 @ 8:01am 
Originally posted by Kesaro:
The Alpha only boosts Carno's, and Carno's and T-Rexes don't combat eachother. It will also definately roflstomp any other creatures that attack it, but I think that's kind of the point.

Alot of your concerns seem to be stemmed from both a lack of understanding (assuming you read the notes on the Alpha fully) and the assumption that the Alpha would be weak enough to take serious threat from Wild Dinos.
We've already seen how a normal T-Rex can clear entire beach and riverfronts of their herbivore population without even breaking a sweat. I think the Alpha could handle it just fine.
I just hope it roflstomps players and it shrugs off C4 and rocket launchers..
Turtlewing Aug 5, 2015 @ 8:24am 
Why would it boost your dinos?

Mate boosting doesn't work between you tamed dinos and wild dinos, why should the alpha boost be any different?
Originally posted by Turtlewing:
Why would it boost your dinos?

Mate boosting doesn't work between you tamed dinos and wild dinos, why should the alpha boost be any different?


Yes, from what we can tell, alpha rex will boost ALL carnivores near him, no matter if theyre wild or tamed :P . It will be special alpha boost, not mate boost.
Wikumos Aug 5, 2015 @ 8:30am 
yes, Jat posted saying that people will be able to cage it up , in their bases (even though we can't tame it), just to give their watchdog carnivores the alpha boost. Yes, i understand and have read what's been posted.
Originally posted by Wikumos:
yes, Jat posted saying that people will be able to cage it up , in their bases (even though we can't tame it), just to give their watchdog carnivores the alpha boost. Yes, i understand and have read what's been posted.
Sounds cool, canyou link the post please? Or the whole topic?
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