PVP Base Design Ideas

[Ezcro]

What are some good designs mostly focused on defending against offline raiders? (End game or lowbie).

• Double walls (or more) is neccessary to stop wall clippers from explot killing your walking assets.
  
  
• Spikes on roofs to prevent fliers from coming in through the top.
  
  
• Do traps do anything? As far as I'm aware they stick out like a sore thumb and are easily avoidable.
  
  
• More than one base is always good (avoiding all eggs in one basket).

What else?

[nitsuj]

A tip I got and like is use just stone, build it big. Think layers, like an onion, think maze like old DOOM games.

Idea is to make it too costly to keep demo'ing doors walls to find your "safety room" oh yea, make a metal safety room inside you base. Try and hide the metal walls as best you can.

you could even set up a "fakey" safety room that's easier to get too, and maybe the raiding will stop there.

#1 don't hoard resources, gather what you need and use them. of course guns / ammo ect require a "safety room".

Not really from experience as my base as is hasn't been raided yet. Seems the bigger it is, the less you get ♥♥♥♥♥♥ with lol

[Pixel]

I've seen some people turn their base into a huge maze with lots of doors and walls to confuse potential raiders, and it also makes them waste more resources attempting to raid you. In many of those corridors you could place alarm traps, narco traps, or even an explosive one if you knew you would never go through a certain area.
Basically make your buildings as confusing as ♥♥♥♥ to move around in. Also, don't leave ladders to the tops of your roofs up unless you are using them. Use trap doors to get to the 2nd floor instead of ramps, put tons of dilos, dimo's or other small carno's in various rooms as traps :D And btw spikes can be taken out by air with a few grenades easy, but aren't a bad deterrent at least.

When placing turrets make sure there are no blind spots at all, and encase all generators inside buildings with an extra metal walll around it as well. Don't put your turrets in areas they can easy be hit with pikes, or grenades either. Put them on pillars, dino door frames, or out of the way and hard to get to locations.

Hope that helps some.

[Malkuth]

Well bigger it is the more of a target you are to the bigger tribes. The smaller you are the less likely they think anything of value is inside. A lot of high teir stuff requires a lot of room. If your base is not big enough for that stuff the chances of getting raided are pretty small if you build in at least stone.

[nitsuj]

引用自 Malkuth：

Well bigger it is the more of a target you are to the bigger tribes. The smaller you are the less likely they think anything of value is inside. A lot of high teir stuff requires a lot of room. If your base is not big enough for that stuff the chances of getting raided are pretty small if you build in at least stone.

yea, but my base is (too) big (for one person) and is on the beach and near the east coast 1 freshi spawn. The best resource inside is a couple of saddles, an 8 oil, 14 pearls....what the hell are pearls for? is there jewlery crafting in this game??

See...it'd be a waste of time. Not as bad as a "Hahaha it's all uploaded to the ARK" note in a vault, but still would be a big resource loss to a tribe to raid my "big targret" of a base.

[ZánÐêr]

best designs for pvp would be to have the whole 1st floor just foundation with honeycomb type walls everywhere.

2nd floor have metal walls/doors but the floor right outside your door, make that wood.
this way when they try nading the door, the floor breaks 1st making it a lot harder to get into.

we do this on our bases, and even when offline raided, we find the floor in front of the door broken/missing, the door is damaged and even missing sometimes, but our stuff has been safe so far.

this is all with the above mentioned double walls etc etc..

[123]

While layers and ♥♥♥♥ get u some defense, the best option to make a base "unraidable is simply making the whole base only acessible by 1 wood ramp and remove the wood ramp before you logg off.

This will be a pain.

To futher enhance this protection, make your crafting rooms in the top of the dino cage and make it only acessibel by a wood ladder that you also remove before you logg off.

A metal base built this way with spikes and 2 layers all around ur base makes you base so expensive to be raided while giving you a safe pen for couple dinos.

To raid this crap you either had to spent a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ of nades on the roof or blow all the foundation to make the base colapse

引用自 ZánÐêr：

best designs for pvp would be to have the whole 1st floor just foundation with honeycomb type walls everywhere.

2nd floor have metal walls/doors but the floor right outside your door, make that wood.
this way when they try nading the door, the floor breaks 1st making it a lot harder to get into.

we do this on our bases, and even when offline raided, we find the floor in front of the door broken/missing, the door is damaged and even missing sometimes, but our stuff has been safe so far.

this is all with the above mentioned double walls etc etc..

Your wood idea is epic, will make my already hard to raid base even harder.

[Ezcro]

These are some really good idea's, thanks guys! I had some questions..

How do the building physics work in this game? I don't want to build up and up then have it all collapse ><

引用自 Chewytowel：

And btw spikes can be taken out by air with a few grenades easy, but aren't a bad deterrent at least.

Can we defeat this by making the roof very high? Or is there some way they can still remove the spikes?


P.S

引用自 Malkuth：

Well bigger it is the more of a target you are to the bigger tribes. The smaller you are the less likely they think anything of value is inside.

We get raided every night pretty much. Woke up this morning raided... all we had was a 2x2 stone hut. Greifers don't care if you have nothing.

[GeekyGek]

find a couple close nitched stones under water, place a chest between them and stash some gear in it, do that in several different locations. Works good as most will only dive for caves, oil and perls (even less now on oil & perls)

[ZánÐêr]

引用自 Reapa：

These are some really good idea's, thanks guys! I had some questions..

How do the building physics work in this game? I don't want to build up and up then have it all collapse ><

引用自 Chewytowel：

And btw spikes can be taken out by air with a few grenades easy, but aren't a bad deterrent at least.

Can we defeat this by making the roof very high? Or is there some way they can still remove the spikes?


P.S

引用自 Malkuth：

Well bigger it is the more of a target you are to the bigger tribes. The smaller you are the less likely they think anything of value is inside.

We get raided every night pretty much. Woke up this morning raided... all we had was a 2x2 stone hut. Greifers don't care if you have nothing.

I made a simple ark nade test small demo.. you can build the whole 1st floor like the 2nd part of the video.

https://youtu.be/WUT0Nxd7XaI

also the building structure works and stays up if there is a foundation, and a connected wall within at least 2 blocks of the higher structure.

although with the newer patches.. anything built before the patch can stay up magically with nothing under it...

if you watch the vid, and build like the 2nd part of the video, it would take a tremendous amoun tof nades to collapse your structure... you ca nuse metal instead of the stone.. I just used stone for the video because its easier to get.

[Malkuth]

引用自 nitsuj：

引用自 Malkuth：

Well bigger it is the more of a target you are to the bigger tribes. The smaller you are the less likely they think anything of value is inside. A lot of high teir stuff requires a lot of room. If your base is not big enough for that stuff the chances of getting raided are pretty small if you build in at least stone.

yea, but my base is (too) big (for one person) and is on the beach and near the east coast 1 freshi spawn. The best resource inside is a couple of saddles, an 8 oil, 14 pearls....what the hell are pearls for? is there jewlery crafting in this game??

See...it'd be a waste of time. Not as bad as a "Hahaha it's all uploaded to the ARK" note in a vault, but still would be a big resource loss to a tribe to raid my "big targret" of a base.

You basically broke every single rule there is to survive on a PVP server. Your post should be a What not to do post. :)

[Malkuth]

引用自 Reapa：

These are some really good idea's, thanks guys! I had some questions..

How do the building physics work in this game? I don't want to build up and up then have it all collapse ><

引用自 Chewytowel：

And btw spikes can be taken out by air with a few grenades easy, but aren't a bad deterrent at least.

Can we defeat this by making the roof very high? Or is there some way they can still remove the spikes?


P.S

引用自 Malkuth：

Well bigger it is the more of a target you are to the bigger tribes. The smaller you are the less likely they think anything of value is inside.

We get raided every night pretty much. Woke up this morning raided... all we had was a 2x2 stone hut. Greifers don't care if you have nothing.

A 2X2 house of stone is nothing. Again you are not disading anyone from raiding you it takes a few grenades to break into your house. A few grenades is nothing with the new Dino that came in the last patch that gives you oil. When I say build small I mean reasonable small that has fuction and security. Fenced in walls, Inner layers of doors. If someone can get to your stash in 1 wall your doing it wrong. If it takes 4 walls, thats better.

Again build smart.

Also build high. Remove ladders when Logged. If they can't get up there they can't take it.

[luisedgm]

引用自 Reapa：

What are some good designs mostly focused on defending against offline raiders? (End game or lowbie).

• Double walls (or more) is neccessary to stop wall clippers from explot killing your walking assets.
  
  
• Spikes on roofs to prevent fliers from coming in through the top.
  
  
• Do traps do anything? As far as I'm aware they stick out like a sore thumb and are easily avoidable.
  
  
• More than one base is always good (avoiding all eggs in one basket).

What else?

building in the top of a nondestructible rock with no way to reach other than flyers or climbing a bronto

[Ezcro]

引用自 caleb68：

find a couple close nitched stones under water, place a chest between them and stash some gear in it, do that in several different locations. Works good as most will only dive for caves, oil and perls (even less now on oil & perls)

We tried this, was gone two days later. I assume there are hackers on this server considering the consistancy we and everyone is hit. We migrate to the other side of the island and are raided the next day by the same people.

引用自 ZánÐêr：

I made a simple ark nade test small demo.. you can build the whole 1st floor like the 2nd part of the video.

https://youtu.be/WUT0Nxd7XaI

Cheers!

引用自 Malkuth：

引用自 Reapa：

We get raided every night pretty much. Woke up this morning raided... all we had was a 2x2 stone hut. Greifers don't care if you have nothing.

A 2X2 house of stone is nothing. Again you are not disading anyone from raiding you it takes a few grenades to break into your house.

Sorry, misinterpreted your original post. After travelling to the other side of the island all we had time for was the 2x2 hut. *Somehow* they found us again.

[nitsuj]

引用自 Malkuth：

引用自 nitsuj：

yea, but my base is (too) big (for one person) and is on the beach and near the east coast 1 freshi spawn. The best resource inside is a couple of saddles, an 8 oil, 14 pearls....what the hell are pearls for? is there jewlery crafting in this game??

See...it'd be a waste of time. Not as bad as a "Hahaha it's all uploaded to the ARK" note in a vault, but still would be a big resource loss to a tribe to raid my "big targret" of a base.

You basically broke every single rule there is to survive on a PVP server. Your post should be a What not to do post. :)

Of course I won't name my server, but it's always gunna have high traffic. You think you can hide a decent dino pen base from flyers?? lol

haven;t been raided since my base became stone. and when resource collecting I don't even check other players lvl when I cross them. I'm lvl 70, and am most certain they are non threats.

Can't hide a base forever, and with foundation greifing, and the no spawn radius thing, why try and leverage a base hidden on land.

Really its too quite where I am.

20 nades for some oil and saddles, that's the best anti raid advice i can give. That and befreind the biggest tribes with free goodies (namely eggs, the big tribes LOVE their dinos)

[Decado]

Dont forget that it's common for people to drop grenades onto your roof via a flyer. Your lower defences are pointless if you ignore the air-side entry.