Every fabricated weapon is POINTLESS

[Dave1029]

I'm going to break down every fabricated weapon, and why the smithy version is better.

Melee: No melee fabricated weapon. This is ridiculous give me a super sharp sword made out of special 100 metal ingots that slashes dinos in half. But seriously give us something here. Oh I know, what about something like a baseball bat? For knocking smaller dinos out. Or that sword would be nice. Just a thought.

Pistol: The smithy pistol has better damage than the fabricated pistol, cost a reasonable amount to make, repair, and supply with ammunition, has less muzzle flash, and if you're trying to kill anything that takes more than 6 shots, you shouldn't be using the pistol in the first place.

Shotgun: They both suck.

Rifle: Longneck is far easier to make, has more damage per shot thus a higher effeciency, is more accurate, ammunition is half as expensive, and looks cooler to me. Oh and it doesn't take polymer, so, like all Smithy weapons, you don't need an Obsidian production line, which is VITAL for southern based bases.

Bow: Compound bow takes a STUPID amount of resources to make, metal arrows take a STUPID amount of resources to make, and the crossbow does good damage despite only costing you 7 metal ingots, and can fire underwater.

So. Devs. Get to balancing.

[Shei]

Shotguns doesn't suck.
They're very usefull against people who picks you up with argentavis and close combat

But i mostly agree for the rest, it sucks, but it was intrnded

[Dave1029]

Originally posted by Sheilah:

Shotguns doesn't suck.
They're very usefull against people who picks you up with argentavis and close combat

But i mostly agree for the rest, it sucks, but it was intrnded

They suck because of the ammunition cost... Not economical at all.

[Shei]

Originally posted by Dave1029:

Originally posted by Sheilah:

Shotguns doesn't suck.
They're very usefull against people who picks you up with argentavis and close combat

But i mostly agree for the rest, it sucks, but it was intrnded

They suck because of the ammunition cost... Not economical at all.

Yup but it still saves lives :D

[Dave1029]

Originally posted by Sheilah:

Originally posted by Dave1029:

They suck because of the ammunition cost... Not economical at all.

Yup but it still saves lives :D

What is that, like 18 gunpowder and 3 metal ingots per mouse click?

[Fay]

Originally posted by Dave1029:

Originally posted by Sheilah:

Shotguns doesn't suck.
They're very usefull against people who picks you up with argentavis and close combat

But i mostly agree for the rest, it sucks, but it was intrnded

They suck because of the ammunition cost... Not economical at all.

Are you trying to kill dinos with guns to level and farm? You should be happy that guns/ammo is so hard to make/craft. Its one of few reasons why this game isnt 20% aimbotters like every other survival game that focused on guns like you want them.

[Shei]

http://ark.gamepedia.com/Simple_Shotgun_Ammo

Ik it's kinda expensive but it's still more affordable than the guns that requires polymer and stuff.

I cri everytime i shoot

[BigDady]

becuase wepons r for defense and they want make easy raid game. thats why the cheap grande extremly strong when the high tech weapons and turrets crap.

[Dave1029]

Originally posted by DVS-Zunneh:

Originally posted by Dave1029:

They suck because of the ammunition cost... Not economical at all.

Are you trying to kill dinos with guns to level and farm? You should be happy that guns/ammo is so hard to make/craft. Its one of few reasons why this game isnt 20% aimbotters like every other survival game that focused on guns like you want them.

I'm complaining about how un-economical every fabricated weapon is, can't you read?

[BigDady]

Originally posted by Dave1029:

Originally posted by Sheilah:

Yup but it still saves lives :D

What is that, like 18 gunpowder and 3 metal ingots per mouse click?

really? just tame a ankyo and u can make 500amo with half hour farming...

[Dave1029]

Originally posted by DVS-Zunneh:

Originally posted by Dave1029:

I'm complaining about how un-economical every fabricated weapon is, can't you read?

Cant you read? If it was ecconomical, and easy to obtain you would have hackers rampantly aimbotting. Its hard as ♥♥♥♥ to make, which means once they get raided 3-4 times they cant bother anymore. For the love of god dont change it. We dont need anymore gun focused survivals. Dinosaur is king here.

Just writing you off as an idiot now. Moving on.

[Dave1029]

Originally posted by BigDady:

Originally posted by Dave1029:

What is that, like 18 gunpowder and 3 metal ingots per mouse click?

really? just tame a ankyo and u can make 500amo with half hour farming...

Ughh... no? Gunpowder takes charcoal. So you need 40 campfires burning at once to churn out those resources.

[BigDady]

Originally posted by DVS-Zunneh:

Originally posted by Dave1029:

I'm complaining about how un-economical every fabricated weapon is, can't you read?

We dont need anymore gun focused survivals. Dinosaur is king here.

sure. when u spend 6hour to tame a high level rex, and somebody will kill it with 5 nades when ur offline...

[BigDady]

Originally posted by Dave1029:

Originally posted by BigDady:

really? just tame a ankyo and u can make 500amo with half hour farming...

Ughh... no? Gunpowder takes charcoal. So you need 40 campfires burning at once to churn out those resources.

yes. and?

[Dave1029]

Originally posted by BigDady:

Originally posted by Dave1029:

Ughh... no? Gunpowder takes charcoal. So you need 40 campfires burning at once to churn out those resources.

yes. and?

And I shouldn't have to do that. Tell you what, when we get industrial forges for mass refining, and industrial burners for mass producing charcoal, then I'll stop complaining about gunpowder. Still doesn't fix the absurd cost of the bow.

[Archie]

Guns are more of a luxury in this game, or rather to satisfy that specific market. Dinos can and should do everything better than you the player, which is the point of a survival game centered around dinos.

Now, onto the OP:
I agree, and I can see your point. Smithy weaponry is cheaper and due to the cost/efficiency superior to fabricated versions. I'm not sure how I feel about the compound bow now that the durability was increased 5x, since it does do 1.5x torpor than a crossbow and should last longer as well. Longneck rifle is also the preferred choice all around and assault rifles are barely even looked at.

Shotguns..well, they are situational. Paired with a parachute they'll probably save your life from being picked up by an argentavis.

I will always support the idea that firearms are hard and non-practical to make, but smithy aka primitive versions shouldn't be more viable than fabricated versions.

Take what I said with a grain of salt though. I barely use firearms in this game other than to change the pace up.

Edit: Perhaps this is all in preparation for better methods of obtaining high end materials and highly needed ones where it'll become easier to mass produce what we need to make them.