Fewer herbivores than carnivores, WHAT?

[EightSeven6]

So when all of my swimmers died while i was trying to get oil (a whole new post and story -_-) i sayd id never go for oil again so i sayd id use an ankylo and another stone-collecting dino to make sparkpowder for prezerving bins to replace oil with fridges (and a generator of course) and when i looked up for a dino that can collect stone i realized that there are none that can do it (maibe add one?) And then i also realized that there were less herbivores than carnivores, how does that make sense? Carnivores wouldnt survive...you should add more herbivores in the future cuz youve only been adding carnivores, im pretty sure youve added no herbivores since i joined ARK (like 2 months ago) and im personally really bumbed cuz i dont want to go ham and destroy everything with a craizy TRex, im the peacefull, technical kinda guy and im sure im not alone

[Cetas]

I am sure they will add in the few herbivore mammals (one of which collects stone) along with the few herbivore dinos after they stop putting in the giant insects/trilobites.

[hostage67]

read the patch notes, new dino coming next patch for stone gathering, plus they already increased stone gathered by 75%.

- Many of the dino's are place holders for other dino types. IE ants represent all insects atm.

Though I do agree we should see or be able to control the balance more IMO.

[Okim]

Originally posted by hostage67:

read the patch notes, new dino coming next patch for stone gathering, plus they already increased stone gathered by 75%.

Well, you should re-read it yourself. No stone-collecting dino in the patch notes...

[tom_gore]

Originally posted by hostage67:

read the patch notes, new dino coming next patch for stone gathering, plus they already increased stone gathered by 75%.

- Many of the dino's are place holders for other dino types. IE ants represent all insects atm.

Though I do agree we should see or be able to control the balance more IMO.

No mention of Doedicurus in the patch notes.

Also, there are also dragonflies (meganeura) now so ants are not representing all insects any more.

[Okim]

Originally posted by EndR20:

Carnivores wouldnt survive...

Don`t get it. How wouldn`t the carnivores survive? You do realise that having more carnivore types has nothing to do with the amount of per-creature rates of herbies/carnivs in the game?

Originally posted by EndR20:

you should add more herbivores in the future

Read the confirmed list of creatures, please... There are TONS of herbivores to come. Basically, we didn`t get any land carnivore amoung the announced creatures for weeks.

[EightSeven6]

Originally posted by hostage67:

read the patch notes, new dino coming next patch for stone gathering, plus they already increased stone gathered by 75%.

- Many of the dino's are place holders for other dino types. IE ants represent all insects atm.

Though I do agree we should see or be able to control the balance more IMO.

O wat?? Are you the actual hostage??? Do you watch Rekk? If yes i didnt know you play ARK

[Disparu]

Originally posted by Okim:

Originally posted by EndR20:

Carnivores wouldnt survive...

Don`t get it. How wouldn`t the carnivores survive? You do realise that having more carnivore types has nothing to do with the amount of per-creature rates of herbies/carnivs in the game?

The food chain is more of a food pyramid. With a few master predators at the top who eat eat the stuff below them. Because of the nature of how we eat (and consume energy)there needs to be more of the stuff below each layer to support the predators at the top.

With the herbivores at the bottom, by definition there has to be more of them to support the ones on the layer above. Otherwise the predators would eat all of the prey, run out of food and die out until the herbivores repopulated.

His argument falls down when you realise that what he says isnt true, herbivores do outnumber carnivores. They're called trikes and they're EVERYWHERE because they are the placeholders for the other dinos coming into the game.

[EightSeven6]

Originally posted by Okim:

Originally posted by EndR20:

Carnivores wouldnt survive...

Don`t get it. How wouldn`t the carnivores survive? You do realise that having more carnivore types has nothing to do with the amount of per-creature rates of herbies/carnivs in the game?

Originally posted by EndR20:

you should add more herbivores in the future

Read the confirmed list of creatures, please... There are TONS of herbivores to come. Basically, we didn`t get any land carnivore amoung the announced creatures for weeks.

Are there really? I did check out the dino list once and didnt see, it was a long time ago tho. Gunna check again. And there is an actual reason carnivores wouldnt really be able to survive long term if there are more carn species than herb, due to evolution factors and competition, wont get too into it tho. Ty tho ^-^

[Artikia]

Originally posted by Disparu:

Originally posted by Okim:

Don`t get it. How wouldn`t the carnivores survive? You do realise that having more carnivore types has nothing to do with the amount of per-creature rates of herbies/carnivs in the game?

The food chain is more of a food pyramid. With a few master predators at the top who eat eat the stuff below them. Because of the nature of how we eat (and consume energy)there needs to be more of the stuff below each layer to support the predators at the top.

With the herbivores at the bottom, by definition there has to be more of them to support the ones on the layer above. Otherwise the predators would eat all of the prey, run out of food and die out until the herbivores repopulated.

His argument falls down when you realise that what he says isnt true, herbivores do outnumber carnivores. They're called trikes and they're EVERYWHERE because they are the placeholders for the other dinos coming into the game.

That's exactly what Okim meant by saying ''You do realise that having more carnivore types has nothing to do with the amount of per-creature rates of herbies/carnivs in the game?''.

[EightSeven6]

And yea @Disparu, them trikes are everywhere, i think they should be replaced by farely large hordes (i think at least Galimimuses stay in hordes/packs right?) Of Pachycephalasauruses, Galimimuses and N(cant remember :P) Cant wait for the full release ;)

[EightSeven6]

Ty everybody for responding, gotta love this comunity :)