Does weapon quality effect gathering?

[WasntAFairFight]

As title would say an apprentice pick gather more metal from a metal rock than a basic one?

[Fafnir]

Yes my boy it would :)

[WasntAFairFight]

Good to hear :). Thank you.

[KhaoticGhost]

isn't it more about the damage percentage rather than the actual tier? Since its possible to get a tool of a lower tier with a higher %, it should get more resources.

[Eyolis]

It's quite more complicated, it depends of your melee damage + tool damage.

Let's say one rock has 500 HP, you use basic metal pick and do 300 damage each hit, you will need 2 hits to break the rock and you will have 100 damage "over hit bonus" that will give you more mats.

Now let's say you use some ramshackle metal pick and do 500 damage to the same rock, you need 1 hit and you will get less mats because no "over hit bonus".

So you need to see according to your melee damage and the tool damage what is the most profitable for you. Breaking rock/tree with one hit if you don't have ++ melee damage is generally not profitable because you don't do much extra damage so it's better to take a tool with lower damage base to make it 2 shots and get extra.

[WasntAFairFight]

Argh very well explained. Is there a way to see rocks HP? Or is it just guess work/maths?

[Aioko]

Currently the fastest way, without spending hours upon hours of doing math for it...100% tools will most likely yield the most mats. From the 550 hours i have played this game and the numerous hours of testing, base mele damage + base damage on pick/hatchet still yields the most mats.

Edit: I did not do math on hp/damage and all that, but from testing it with two people (both different damages, his at 150% and mine at 100%, also testing different quality weapons, base and base seem to yield more...

[WasntAFairFight]

Argh right ok. Seems a shame. I'm unsure if it's placebo but a ramshackle pick seems to produce less stone from metal rocks.

[Eyolis]

It's probably the case if you aren't with big melee damage yourself

[WasntAFairFight]

Only 300% not sure what big classes as.

[Yoth]

More damage, more stuff. Same with dinos. Except when you activate the "clamp havest damage" option on your server.

[Urazz]

So is it probably a good idea to get the weapon damage on an anklyo or mammoth to be pretty darn high so they break resources on one hit and get a decent amount of overkill on it as well for extra resources?

Originally posted by WasntAFairFight:

Argh right ok. Seems a shame. I'm unsure if it's placebo but a ramshackle pick seems to produce less stone from metal rocks.

Well it is a pick afterall, which is supposed to get you more iron and flint than rocks.

[Toast]

Originally posted by Urazz:

So is it probably a good idea to get the weapon damage on an anklyo or mammoth to be pretty darn high so they break resources on one hit and get a decent amount of overkill on it as well for extra resources?

Yes, I can see the differences using a Trike alone in terms of the resources gathered versus an unleveled one

[Eyolis]

Thats why everyone level damage on pets like cat/ankylo/mammoth and co :P

[crossmr]

This is an old thread, but this is also the first thread that came up in search results for me. For anyone wondering, as a test: A ramshackle pick with 130% bonus gives me like 75-80 metal out of a solid gold rock, while a regular pick with 100% damage gives me around 100-110. Seems really backwards, but just in case anyone else finds this thread in 2017 it is still true.

[Vesuvius]

Originally posted by crossmr:

This is an old thread, but this is also the first thread that came up in search results for me. For anyone wondering, as a test: A ramshackle pick with 130% bonus gives me like 75-80 metal out of a solid gold rock, while a regular pick with 100% damage gives me around 100-110. Seems really backwards, but just in case anyone else finds this thread in 2017 it is still true.

I think the trade off is durability.