Walling of your base: The easy way

[Demonpriest]

So i came to the point were i wanted to wall of my base and have a space were i can park my dinos rather safely from the occasional spawning carnivores. I tried doing it the obvious way of placing fence-foundations with walls on them like i've seen on so many screenshots and found out... its a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ pain in the... neck!

Placing fence-foundations with the current build system is tedious and frustrating (not a rant, just an observation, i'm aware its Early Access after all), with pinpoint accuracy and a lot of patience needed to place these fence-foundations on uneven terrain, and even if you manage that, it can look rather, well, not so pretty. Add the occasional side-changing walls and youre prone to throw your peripherals through the room.

So, since the dino gate is exatly 4 walls high and i've read somewhere that 4-walls hight would be the safe hight to keep all dinos except fliers out, i thought, why not try to build a wall entirely out of dino gates, and here is what i found out:

1. It works!
   
2. Its so much easier, they snap way better and easier then fence foundations and the ghost-image doesnt dissapear in the ground at the tiniest slope. Sit on a big dino and build while you walk!
   
3. It looks rather nice. (Personal opinion)
   
4. Gates! Gates everywhere! With gate-fitting dinos you can go in and out from everywhere on your "Wall".
   
5. You can still build a walkway over them. Just place a fence foundation at the side of a gate, place a few pillars and a ceiling. It fits well together.
   
6. Its waaaaaay cheaper than building with walls and fence-foundations (resource-breakdown below)

Resources:

to fit a 2-wide 4-high space you need either 2 fence-foundations and 8 walls, or 1 gateway and 1 gate.

Wood-Tier:

Walls and fence-foundation Total amount:

340 Wood
86 Thatch
60 Fiber

VS.

Dino-gate and gateway Total amount:

200 Wood
50 Thatch
35 Fiber
40 Stone

Stone-Tier:

Walls and fence-foundation Total amount:

350 Stone
180 Wood
140 Thatch

VS.

Dino-gate and gateway Total amount:

200 Stone
100 Wood
70 Thatch

Metal-Tier:

Walls and fence-foundation Total amount:

210 Metal Ingots
60 Cementing Paste

VS.

Dino-gate and gateway Total amount:

120 Metal Ingots
35 Cementing Paste

Behemoth (7-width, 15-hight):

Walls and fence-foundation Total amount:

2660	Iron ingot
749	Cement

VS.

Behemoth-gate and gateway Total amount:

195	Iron ingot
50	Cement
20	Polymer  

The only downside to this method could be PvP, since the enemy has only one structure to destroy to make a fitting hole for their dinos with (at least according to the wikia) same HP as one wall. On the other hand, if the foundations are destroyed the whole thing would probably have a hole at least the same size of a gate, not sure about it, havent seen or tried it myself.

Wood-Gate-Wall

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=483247933

Stone-Gate-Wall

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=483247958

Metal-Gate-Wall

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=483247981


Edit: Behold the "Perfectly-alligned-double-high-dino-gate-wall-pen" (part of it lol)

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=483688147
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=483688187
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=483688211
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=483688245

How i got them so well alligned? Heres how i did it:

Place 4 foundations or ceilings:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=483688269

Place a fence-foundation:
There are 4 snap pints between 2 foundations for this, it has to be one of the 2 directly between the 2 foundations)
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=483688298

Place gate:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=483688331
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=483688352

Now you just need to build a couple of walls and ceilings, and continue the same on the uper floor.

[Simmyoto]

Good find- hope they don't increase the gate materiel cost now ! ;)

[tom_gore]

And don't get me even started about the behe gate. The savings for building a big full-metal base are astronomical (behegate is 7x15, that's 105 metal walls).

[G Jr]

I've also been using gates like crazy! Even have multiple ones in front of each other for added security! Multiple entrances rule! Lol

[tom_gore]

Originally posted by Sw!zZ.Pii:

Dude, I will consider that for my next base: Full Behemoth. Another pro: You can leave and enter the base from all directions.

As for the ceiling, you put pillars to reach its hight?

Yup.

[Edgeta]

Nice, going to try this momentarily :-)

[MattackSC]

Oh no now everyone knows the secret! ;)
My tribe is currently walling off crag island using behemoth gates lol

[Simmyoto]

what you needs to do is run an eletric cable round the perimiter, hook it up to a keypad and assign all the gates the same pin number! now that would be cool to see

[Demonpriest]

Originally posted by Sw!zZ.Pii:

Dude, I will consider that for my next base: Full Behemoth. Another pro: You can leave and enter the base from all directions.

As for the ceiling, you put pillars to reach its hight?

Added Behemoth into the calculation. :)

Originally posted by Simmyoto:

what you needs to do is run an eletric cable round the perimiter, hook it up to a keypad and assign all the gates the same pin number! now that would be cool to see

And would probably crash the server lol

[Romen]

I'll have to try this. Placing fence foundations on sloping ground can be very difficult, as often the foundation you are trying to snap winds up under ground and thus can't be seen. Or it doesn't snap and you end up destrying it when you find it wasn't in the right spot and you can't place the wall because it would be obstructed. So the savings could be even more.

With uneven ground you will have fewer "steps" in the fence as well, which I would think will look better. Great idea, thanks! :)

[Slimane]

Any screenshots of this? Sounds silly but if it works... lol

[Brain]

Yea, would like to see some screenshots too.

[Demonpriest]

Originally posted by AngryNeeson52:

Any screenshots of this? Sounds silly but if it works... lol

Originally posted by Brain:

Yea, would like to see some screenshots too.

Added some screens, sorry for the quality.

[dArK]

i actually like this idea...especially with the stone gates...thanks!

[Vaught]

Originally posted by tom_gore:

Originally posted by Sw!zZ.Pii:

Dude, I will consider that for my next base: Full Behemoth. Another pro: You can leave and enter the base from all directions.

As for the ceiling, you put pillars to reach its hight?

Yup.

How often do you need a pillar? I'm worried about doing this with behemoth gates due to the fact I want my spino/mammoths to be able to walk inside.

[Demonpriest]

Originally posted by Vaught:

Originally posted by tom_gore:

Yup.

How often do you need a pillar? I'm worried about doing this with behemoth gates due to the fact I want my spino/mammoths to be able to walk inside.

Depends on what you want to do. If you only want to make a walkway above the behemoth gate that will probably not work with spinos and mammoths, since you can only put pillars apart 4 "tiles" (a tile would be the length of 1 wall") and put a full, connectable ceiling on them, and i dont know if they can fit through that.

If you want to make a full enclosed room with a behemoth gate, that could work, since ceilings only need to be "indirectly" connected to a foundation that is directly beneath them. You can continue building ceilings as long as they are connected through a pillar or wall to a foundation underneath them, no matter how far apart that pillar or wall is.

Edith: couple of screens for better understanding:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=483688064
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=483688099