Climb ladders like in source engine ?

[Hades]

Firstly excuse my english.

I think the way you climb the ladders in Ark is a bit strange, it breaks the freedom of movement that we have on land.

1st: You have to press E to climb and when you are in a hurry it's not always easy. ^^
2nd: The ladders are not a collidable object, so it's hard to be in front of it (It would be better if we were able to bump on it).
3rd: The fact that we can't look left or right is a little annoying.

Collidable ladders that make you climb automatically when you move towards it, or press E on it (to go down it's better to be able to press a key). And where we can look around (Or maybe just left or right, not 360°), or jump off the ladder by pressing space would be great. :)

Take for exemples the ladders of the source engine.

I'm not complaining, i love that game, i just make suggestions.
Do not hesitate to give me your opinion.

And if Ark devs do something i would be sooo happy :D

[Hades]

Bump

[Yoth]

You can't walk through source ladders. But in this game you need to be able to do this.

[Hades]

引用自 Yoth：

You can't walk through source ladders. But in this game you need to be able to do this.

Why ? It's weird to be able to pass through an object. And it would be easier to use if we could just bump on it.

And i've tested on my private server, i can walk through ladders.

[explodingmonkey]

引用自 Yoth：

You can't walk through source ladders. But in this game you need to be able to do this.

exactly. the ladders arent always meant to be against a wall so you can just run up them. your meant to be able to use them creatively and have them hang down wherever you want. thats why you need to clip thru them and thusly need e to activate the climb. source ladders would suck IMHO

[Sutha]

引用自 HadesDeadlyTom：

引用自 Yoth：

You can't walk through source ladders. But in this game you need to be able to do this.

Why ? It's weird to be able to pass through an object. And it would be easier to use if we could just bump on it.

I kinda agree. I like the idea of climbing automatically better. Sometimes it can be a pain in the butt to press E on those things. Cause for some odd reason, I'd be staring at it and "TROLOLOLOLOLO"! If the result was unable to go through the ladder, I can live with that.

[Galbi3000]

I am in agreement, ladders should be solid. I have no idea why in any game you need ladders to have no collision so you pass through them!

I am used to being able to jump on to a ladder while running at it, like you can do in most games with climbable ladders. Maybe if the devs just include collision detection and a clause that says "if the player hits the ladder while in the air then start climbing" perhaps with some sort of check for the angle you are hitting it at :)

[Vandragorax]

There is no reason to walk through ladders. If you place a ladder like that and it obstructs something, then it's your own damn fault and you can move the ladder elsewhere.

+1 to make them collidable and auto walk up them by just running into them.

[Hades]

引用自 Vandragorax：

There is no reason to walk through ladders. If you place a ladder like that and it obstructs something, then it's your own damn fault and you can move the ladder elsewhere.

+1 to make them collidable and auto walk up them by just running into them.

And btw i really don't see a situation where a ladder would obstruct something, because you could just pass beside it.

[Galbi3000]

引用自 explodingmonkey：

引用自 Yoth：

You can't walk through source ladders. But in this game you need to be able to do this.

exactly. the ladders arent always meant to be against a wall so you can just run up them. your meant to be able to use them creatively and have them hang down wherever you want. thats why you need to clip thru them and thusly need e to activate the climb. source ladders would suck IMHO

Why do you need to pass through them when they hang down? Why not go round them like in the real world (if you have left no room to go round then you are a poor designer :P )?

EDIT: When the ladder is hanging down and not against a wall, that's when you really do need them to be solid, especially when you need to use them while being chased! You may not always have time to stop and make sure you can press E on it to climb it without passing through it :P

[Kass]

Source engine like ladders were terrible to use in any source game, they would either make you fly off, and not being able climb down properly due to terrible detection leading to your death. I can't count how many times I fall off ladders in Source engine games.

[[☥] - CJ -]

dunno what games you play, but ARK isnt the first game to require a key press to do an action like climbing ladders. Majority of games require this, otherwise you may accidently climb one more often than one would like to.

[Sutha]

引用自 ☥ - CJ -：

dunno what games you play, but ARK isnt the first game to require a key press to do an action like climbing ladders. Majority of games require this, otherwise you may accidently climb one more often than one would like to.

Pressing E deosn't really bother me. It's the fact that sometimes I'd press it and nothing would happen so I have to fiddle to see the press E to climb pop up. Better Collision / detection may be a compromise. (I have a ladder system to get up this mountain slope and into the woods and sometimes the ladders troll me).

[Galbi3000]

引用自 ☥ - CJ -：

dunno what games you play, but ARK isnt the first game to require a key press to do an action like climbing ladders. Majority of games require this, otherwise you may accidently climb one more often than one would like to.

That is true. The main issue I have, if you read my replies, is that they are not solid. Some of the games that require you to press a key to climb also have the function that if you jump at the ladder you also start climbing, preventing accidental climbing from just running into it.

[Kris Reddish]

The height bug thing that makes me bounce all over the place when going from one level to the next needs to be fixed. I bouce off the top climbing them and then vibrate all over tarnation. You can fix that by building each level double normal height so it is half ass clipping causing the bug. I see no issue with auto moving up or down when encoutered, but they should keep as well the E command to do the same. If not folks will miss the ladder and walk off the edge of ♥♥♥♥ non stop.Make the ladders not expend past one level at all when starting from any snap point. If you can walk in a level, then why cannot you ascend to that level on a ladder. TLDR:I agree but with a caveat, however the entire ladder sytem is buggy as hell right now.

[[☥] - CJ -]

In the case of on Multiplayer, it could be an issue of lag in 1 form or another.

But from what ive seen it has to do with mainly the position of the button press popup telling you to hit E to climb.