Baryonyx, Sarco/Carbon or Spino breathing?

[Steel Jacket]

I am wondering which type they will give Baryonyx. Sarco and Carbon both don't need to resurface for air, yet the spinosaurus needs to. Introducing this new dino do you think they should make it like the spino or the sarco? I personally think they should make it have the sarco/carbon type to allow for keeping underwater.

This would have benefits for everyone as it would mean land tribes could use it to do some diving for oil (the far inland tribes) and the underwater tribes could keep it underwater without having to hide it in an underwater cave.

Thoughts?

[ZoSo]

If they want to stick to the real life dino, he shouldn't be ablo to breath underwater. Hes basically a theoropod smaller spino.

[Steel Jacket]

Originally posted by ZoSo:

If they want to stick to the real life dino, he shouldn't be ablo to breath underwater. Hes basically a theoropod smaller spino.

If they wanted to stick to RL the beelzebufo would be a LOT smaller and so would the ants lol. Also Sarco would not be able to breathe underwater and neither would carbonemys. As a matter of fact the carbon would not be swimming at all as it was a tortoise. Also diving as deep as we do in this game would not be possible without a much higher tech as the water pressures that deep would require lengthy pressurization and depressurization.

This game is far far from realism, the whole "realism" argument means absolutely nothing at this point.

[Ǵ̶͓̂͑lí̴̤̀̄́tcĥ̸]

Originally posted by keith_90guy:

Originally posted by ZoSo:

If they want to stick to the real life dino, he shouldn't be ablo to breath underwater. Hes basically a theoropod smaller spino.

If they wanted to stick to RL the beelzebufo would be a LOT smaller and so would the ants lol. Also Sarco would not be able to breathe underwater and neither would carbonemys. As a matter of fact the carbon would not be swimming at all as it was a tortoise. Also diving as deep as we do in this game would not be possible without a much higher tech as the water pressures that deep would require lengthy pressurization and depressurization.

This game is far far from realism, the whole "realism" argument means absolutely nothing at this point.

You are hugely arguing semantics here. You cannot excuse a semi-realistic goal based on the exceptions, that's fallacy and any intelligent person would know this.

They shoot for a semi-realistic feel while still maintaining artistic freedom. It's pretty obvious what that entails for dinos like the Baryonyx, which will no doubt be a lesser Spino and require oxygen.

[Steel Jacket]

Originally posted by Chillin':

Originally posted by keith_90guy:

If they wanted to stick to RL the beelzebufo would be a LOT smaller and so would the ants lol. Also Sarco would not be able to breathe underwater and neither would carbonemys. As a matter of fact the carbon would not be swimming at all as it was a tortoise. Also diving as deep as we do in this game would not be possible without a much higher tech as the water pressures that deep would require lengthy pressurization and depressurization.

This game is far far from realism, the whole "realism" argument means absolutely nothing at this point.

You are hugely arguing semantics here. You cannot excuse a semi-realistic goal based on the exceptions, that's fallacy and any intelligent person would know this.

They shoot for a semi-realistic feel while still maintaining artistic freedom. It's pretty obvious what that entails for dinos like the Baryonyx, which will no doubt be a lesser Spino and require oxygen.

This game was NEVER based on a semi-realistic goal, there is a LOT more unrealistic with this game than realistic I am not "hugely" arguing semantics here. There was no need for hugely in that sentence.

Don't insult some one when you speak to them btw, really poor way to get them to agree with any of your opinions.

It's pretty obvious what that entails for the baryonyx? Wow that's impressive that you know where the artists will use their "artistic freedom", I'm impressed by your all knowing mind.

Again for every "realistic" aspect to this game I can give you a list of 3 unrealistic things. This game was NEVER aiming for realism, they are aiming for entertainment and realism almost never entertains people. They say Baryonyx will be a very agile swimmer, this is ridiculous baryonyx would be a very poor swimmer, spino would be far more agile in the water and faster due to his body structure. Baryonyx would have probably spent his time exclusively fishing from shore with his snout in the water.

Please don't come on to another post acting like a pseudo intellectual parading as an intellectual.

[Spills51]

Originally posted by keith_90guy:

Originally posted by ZoSo:

If they want to stick to the real life dino, he shouldn't be ablo to breath underwater. Hes basically a theoropod smaller spino.

If they wanted to stick to RL the beelzebufo would be a LOT smaller and so would the ants lol. Also Sarco would not be able to breathe underwater and neither would carbonemys. As a matter of fact the carbon would not be swimming at all as it was a tortoise. Also diving as deep as we do in this game would not be possible without a much higher tech as the water pressures that deep would require lengthy pressurization and depressurization.

This game is far far from realism, the whole "realism" argument means absolutely nothing at this point.

Umm...He wasnt arguing. If the Devss would like to stick to the real thing then he wont be able. If not he will.

[Steel Jacket]

Originally posted by Spills51:

Originally posted by keith_90guy:

If they wanted to stick to RL the beelzebufo would be a LOT smaller and so would the ants lol. Also Sarco would not be able to breathe underwater and neither would carbonemys. As a matter of fact the carbon would not be swimming at all as it was a tortoise. Also diving as deep as we do in this game would not be possible without a much higher tech as the water pressures that deep would require lengthy pressurization and depressurization.

This game is far far from realism, the whole "realism" argument means absolutely nothing at this point.

Umm...He wasnt arguing. If the Devss would like to stick to the real thing then he wont be able. If not he will.

He gave a reason for why baryonyx would not be able to breathe underwater based on realism. I was simply stating that there are 2 other creatures in this game that are like the baryonyx (semi aquatic) who do not need oxygen. My statement that realism was just a poor reason for the baryonyx to resurface as those sentiments don't work for the afformentioned creatures, 1 of which would not even be semi aquatic at all.

[dinkey]

Yes yes, some the the dinosaurs aren't realistic. Doesn't matter. The devs will do what they want to do with the Bary, and since it is like a Spino in many aspects, it will probably just be a smaller, faster spinosaur.

[Steel Jacket]

Originally posted by dinkey:

Yes yes, some the the dinosaurs aren't realistic. Doesn't matter. The devs will do what they want to do with the Bary, and since it is like a Spino in many aspects, it will probably just be a smaller, faster spinosaur.

I realize this, my statements were just based on which one do people think would be better. I personally think that acting like the carbon/sarco would be better mechanics wise.

[krawll]

I think even the Sarco and Carbo should not be able to breath under water but since both of them can hold their breath in real life for more than an hour , it doesn't really matter and it's less of a hassle to simply pretend they can breath underwater .

But the Baryonyx is to a Spino what a Carnotaur is to a T-Rex . Since the spino can't breath underwater even though he preffers to hunt fish . I'd say the Baryonyx will be the same .

His advantage is that he can travel fast , both on land and in water . And according to the dossier he'll have a damage bonus when attacking sea creatures plus he'll have increased health regeneration while eating meat coming from sea creatures .

So with all those advantages , i'd say no , he's not there to help you get oil . And if you try to use him for it , then he'll simply bolt to the surface as soon as you dismount him , just like Spino does.

[dinkey]

Originally posted by keith_90guy:

Originally posted by dinkey:

Yes yes, some the the dinosaurs aren't realistic. Doesn't matter. The devs will do what they want to do with the Bary, and since it is like a Spino in many aspects, it will probably just be a smaller, faster spinosaur.

I realize this, my statements were just based on which one do people think would be better. I personally think that acting like the carbon/sarco would be better mechanics wise.

Oh I know, it's just silly arguements over realism are just silly! Also, I think it would be best as well, due to the fact that Bary only eats fish, it will spend A LOT of time in the water, and is apparently an incredibly fast swimmer. I think that it should either have a REALLY high amount of oxygen (due to spending all its time in the water, unlike the Spino) or be like the sarco/carbo. That way, someone inland can have an incredibly fast (on land and in water) mount that while not quite powerful, they could use to get to the ocean quickly, and to use in the ocean efficiently. BUUUT idc if it isn't, because I can always use my sarco. It may not be fast on land. But it's incredibly fast in water, and doesn't need to breath, so it's perfect for the ocean.

[яise]

Originally posted by keith_90guy:

Originally posted by ZoSo:

If they want to stick to the real life dino, he shouldn't be ablo to breath underwater. Hes basically a theoropod smaller spino.

If they wanted to stick to RL the beelzebufo would be a LOT smaller and so would the ants lol. Also Sarco would not be able to breathe underwater and neither would carbonemys. As a matter of fact the carbon would not be swimming at all as it was a tortoise. Also diving as deep as we do in this game would not be possible without a much higher tech as the water pressures that deep would require lengthy pressurization and depressurization.

This game is far far from realism, the whole "realism" argument means absolutely nothing at this point.

not really, provided its above 120ft and dont go into deco-you just have to make sure you do a safety stop at 15ft for 5mins, further more you could blow the safety stop and just be sick for awhile.

[AteBitGamer]

I think it will be more akin to the Spino and need to surface for air.

[Steel Jacket]

Originally posted by яise:

Originally posted by keith_90guy:

If they wanted to stick to RL the beelzebufo would be a LOT smaller and so would the ants lol. Also Sarco would not be able to breathe underwater and neither would carbonemys. As a matter of fact the carbon would not be swimming at all as it was a tortoise. Also diving as deep as we do in this game would not be possible without a much higher tech as the water pressures that deep would require lengthy pressurization and depressurization.

This game is far far from realism, the whole "realism" argument means absolutely nothing at this point.

not really, provided its above 120ft and dont go into deco-you just have to make sure you do a safety stop at 15ft for 5mins, further more you could blow the safety stop and just be sick for awhile.

Max depth in this game (plesio depth) is roughly 250 feet, and you make the dive without any gear.

[bcwolfen]

As we dive without scuba gear this qualifies as a breath hold dive and decompression does not come into play at all. The only time deco comes into play is if you are breathing compressed air at depth. World record breath hold dive is 241m (702ft) and longest breath hold (static) is 11 minutes. So while slightly exaggerated (but what isn't in a video game) our characters can do a 5 minute breath hold to 200ft without suffering any decompression sickness.

[Fish]

Personally I prefer the realism side of things. Baryonyx doesn't LOOK like it could breathe under water in the slightest and it would feel a bit immersion breaking if it did. It's of no surprise then that I disagree with Carbonemys and Sarcosuchus being able to breath under water. I think it would be better if these creatures could simply hold their breath for exceptionally long periods.