ARK: Survival Evolved

ARK: Survival Evolved

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Drinkcup Jul 13, 2015 @ 9:06pm
Always over heating... or freezing.
Mostly overheating.

Every single in-game day I'm overheating. During the day, overheating. During pitch black of night, overheating. Raining, overheating. in water, overheating. Sometimes I'm able to take off all clothes and be not overheating at night, but it usually just goes straight to 'cold'. But most nights even this doesnt stop health drain from being too hot.

Early access, yeah we all know it's early access. But I'm surprised that something as game breaking as constant health drain (and, tbh even more so, the annoying effects and sounds of the character overheating constantly) from overheating and freezing

I've tried taking off all clothes, and putting all clothes on, as they seem to have -hyperthermia values, but it seems to be more effective to cool down with clothes off, and the descrip does say 'keep you warm'. But the hypo/ hyperthermia values are as clear as mud. Does neg or positive mean it negatively affects the heat buildup? or it causes neg temp? what?

Mountains, fine, it's cold. Building 2 campfires couldnt stop me from freezing to death in hide/ chitin. Seems a bit outrageous. And I had about 14 pts in Fortitude... does it even help? does it have anything to do with temp/ weather effects at all? there is no concensus on the matter!

Game needs some clearer tooltips or something as to what Fortitude and other values mean.

And overheating / freezing and temps in general are ridiculous and for me, not quite game breaking but pretty absurd and broken, when can we expect to see some help on keeping cool?

why deosnt shade work?
Why doesnt staying indoors work (and believe me, it doesnt work despite what the loading tip says)
why can't you build a parasol or something for goodness sake? put water in the preservation bin and make ice? a bunch of other things? HALP
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Toast Jul 13, 2015 @ 9:10pm 
I think its especially stupid that you overheat, yet its raining out. Or overheating 5 seconds after submerging yourself in water.

I guess they are trying to add the survival aspect to it, but as of now it seems kind of pointless.
hostage67 Jul 13, 2015 @ 9:14pm 
I really hope they allow us to customize the threshold for those values because it does seem kinda retarded that there is almost never a safe zone, that you go straight from overheating to freezing.
DiabolusUrsus Jul 13, 2015 @ 9:18pm 
I heard from a friend that fortitude doesn't seem to do much at the moment; it definitely needs some looking at.

More importantly, what bugs me most is that you can transition almost immediately from hypothermia to hyperthermia with relative ease. I want to see much more gradual changes in temperature that need to be managed.

I also agree that how we take shelter needs to be looked at.
Drinkcup Jul 13, 2015 @ 9:22pm 
Originally posted by toast:
I think its especially stupid that you overheat, yet its raining out. Or overheating 5 seconds after submerging yourself in water.

I guess they are trying to add the survival aspect to it, but as of now it seems kind of pointless.

I can definitely agree with where you're going .... remove it from the game until it works!

:f2_unsure:
Likaro Jul 13, 2015 @ 9:26pm 
shouldn't fortitude increase your resistance to those, or is that just a hoax.
GeekyGek Jul 13, 2015 @ 9:30pm 
Chitin will cause you to drastically overheat
Flak will cause to to drastically freeze.
leather evens out the freezing abit in high cold areas.
cloth evens out the overheating if in high heat areas.

but... can't carry 4 suits of armor around with you all the time.
TropicalToucan Jul 13, 2015 @ 9:31pm 
From what I tested one point in fortitude only give your character a two degree comfort range in both directions but sometimes in the mountain its gets rediculously cold and no one is gonna put like 30 points in fortitude. I think they just need to buff fortitude for a short term solution.
Haratu Jul 13, 2015 @ 9:34pm 
Fortitude helps for both.

While cold you lose food faster and water slower

To get warmer (in order of benefit based upon efficency with easiest first):
- Naked<Cloth<Flak<Hide<Chitin
(note that flak does not appear better against warmth than lesser armours)
- Carry a LIT torch (ie. be using it)
- Stand next to a buring fire (any sort), and they add up if standing next to multiple ones
(Fire also affects the floor space above and below the fire)
- Stand inside a building
- Close the door/windows (this actually does help in some circumstances, but minimally)
- Stand in the sun
- Use lots of stamina by runing and jumping (since this uses food faster then I do not recommend it unless you have lots and lots of food)

While Warm you use water faster (food seems to be un affected)

To get colder (in order of benefit based upon efficency with easiest first):
- Chitin<Hide<Flak<Cloth<Naked (woot, get naked!!!)
- Stand in shade
(Shade does matter, but it depends on the ecosystem as to the effectiveness, also depends on the sun position. your body has to be fully in the shade, not just your feet)
- Stand in water
- Immerse in water (it is very rare water is warm)
- Take a drink (not recommended as it is temporary and uses your water supplies that you will need if it stays warm)

After testing I also found that for clothing issues you can often change the effect with just one item rather than a full change, but this depends on the specific environment you are in.


NOTE:
The most obvious argument is that the shade does not work when you stand in the dark patch on the ground... but from testing i found that it does, just that sometimes the shadow is coming at an angle and your head or body will be stickign up out of the shade (just like in real life!!!). So using shade at dawn and dusk is more difficult.

Buildings count as shade.
Last edited by Haratu; Jul 13, 2015 @ 9:38pm
WatchScotch Jul 13, 2015 @ 9:40pm 
Originally posted by toast:
I think its especially stupid that you overheat, yet its raining out. Or overheating 5 seconds after submerging yourself in water.

I guess they are trying to add the survival aspect to it, but as of now it seems kind of pointless.
You have never been in a desert then, trust me it can be 120+ (50 c) and still pour down rain and the rain offers no comfort from the heat. Same thing with coming out of the water, when it's that hot out, if you aren't sitting in the water you are simply miserable.

That said, maybe the lore behind the world we are on is made to move from extreme temperature to extreme temperature, like a desert.
Haratu Jul 13, 2015 @ 9:42pm 
Originally posted by Donatello:
Originally posted by toast:
I think its especially stupid that you overheat, yet its raining out. Or overheating 5 seconds after submerging yourself in water.

I guess they are trying to add the survival aspect to it, but as of now it seems kind of pointless.
You have never been in a desert then, trust me it can be 120+ (50 c) and still pour down rain and the rain offers no comfort from the heat. Same thing with coming out of the water, when it's that hot out, if you aren't sitting in the water you are simply miserable.

That said, maybe the lore behind the world we are on is made to move from extreme temperature to extreme temperature, like a desert.

Quite correct... in fact rain can make you hotter becasue it raises air humidity which means your sweat does not evaporate, leading to the sticky, hot feelign common in the tropics.
TwinMinds Jul 13, 2015 @ 9:46pm 
I haven't had too much problem yet, but I've heard the southern starting zones aren't bad for temperatures. There does seem to be certain areas that are much worse than others, there's a jungle near my house that's always mildly hot no matter what I'm wearing.

When it gets cold at night, closing my hut door does immediately change the temps. It never counts as a house for temp reduction until the moment I close the door and it's completely enclosed.
Last edited by TwinMinds; Jul 13, 2015 @ 9:47pm
Mowglia Jul 13, 2015 @ 9:54pm 
Originally posted by Donatello:
That said, maybe the lore behind the world we are on is made to move from extreme temperature to extreme temperature, like a desert.
Or maybe it's just a crap mechanic in a badly designed game.
Sweatington Jul 13, 2015 @ 9:57pm 
Your own fault for not putting points in Fortitude...
Haratu Jul 13, 2015 @ 9:57pm 
Originally posted by Mowglia:
Originally posted by Donatello:
That said, maybe the lore behind the world we are on is made to move from extreme temperature to extreme temperature, like a desert.
Or maybe it's just a crap mechanic in a badly designed game.

Actually I think the extremes that people notice is becasue they move in and out of shade. if you fly ou do not notice such extremes unless you move between regions.
Sperber Jul 13, 2015 @ 10:02pm 
You know, other than my character making funny noises, I'm totally not paying attention to heat and cold anymore, since all it does is to increase food and water consumption, which I'm usually well prepared for. It certainly doesn't justify going out of my way just to seek shelter from it.
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Date Posted: Jul 13, 2015 @ 9:06pm
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