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wilmer007 Jul 12, 2015 @ 3:18pm
Plesiosaur vs Megalodon vs Ichthyosaurus?
Was wondering what the pros and cons are to all 3 water mounts.


Currently level 40 and need to go collect oil and soon pearls so i have to decide on which saddle i will go for out of the three since i am saving as many engrams as i can for late game.
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behemoth227 Jul 12, 2015 @ 3:22pm 
At level 40, go for the ichty. Can outrun anything, fast enough to get you to resources without having to dump a bunch of points into oxygen, and theyre so easy to train they're basically expendable.
Aakek Jul 12, 2015 @ 3:25pm 
Currently the Mega is completely outclassed by the new underwater dinos.

Ichthy

Pros
Incredible speed and low stamina use
Incredibly agile
Able to fight megas for prime with its quick speed flanking to the side/rear

Cons
Low hp (low gain per point as well)
Can not fight plesios effectively but can run away with ease

Plesio

Pros
High Weight
High HP
High Damage (Wide area able to attack)

Cons
Turns like a Semi
Low stamina (Good bursts of speed but not in the same class as Ithy)
Takes some getting used to due to the turning
wilmer007 Jul 12, 2015 @ 3:26pm 
Originally posted by behemoth227:
At level 40, go for the ichty. Can outrun anything, fast enough to get you to resources without having to dump a bunch of points into oxygen, and theyre so easy to train they're basically expendable.

yeah that's what i was thinking since i saw the wiki stats showed that it has higher movement speed than the megalodon. my only concern was dealing with a megalodon but i guess since they are easy to tame i can just take the saddle with me when i'm done gathering oil and pearls.
Last edited by wilmer007; Jul 12, 2015 @ 3:27pm
Nepherim Jul 12, 2015 @ 3:27pm 
Ichthyosaurus = speed demon that will let those mega and plesio way far being you.

Megalodon = big jaw that can sprint but rely on stamina and more brute approach (kill them all)

Plesio = very dangerous fellaw (slow and tricky to tame but really high damage)

And the one you forgot the crocodile = swift enough to let a megalodon behind or even kill them, just slow to turn left or right with it + he can go out of the ocean to be safe from megalodon when you aren't near
Misneach Jul 12, 2015 @ 3:30pm 
As far as I can tell the Ichty is about the water equivalent of a pterodon. It's small, fast, but doesn't have a high weight capacity and can get easily killed by most predators. It's probably the best bet for getting you deep down into the water, but if anything aggros it will probably become dinner.

The Megalodon is about like the Carno, it is really big and looks a lot more intimidating than it actually is. It weight is higher and its more capable of defending itself, but it's also slower so you'll either have to have a lot of oxygen or stock up on the right food to extend your oxygen. Also, if you run into a plesiosaur, you're probably dead.

The Plesiosaur is about like the spino, it is HUGE, faster than it looks, and is an all around decent mount... But it is DIFFICULT to tame. It chews through narco and takes a long time to finish. You will need at least a few water mounts before even attempting this monster.
Warleech Jul 12, 2015 @ 3:31pm 
Me my self ' Ichthyosaurus ' FAST inf to make megaloaden get lost and sometime it call for another Ichthyosaurus to help so i do love them and easy to tame.
NullRhea Jul 12, 2015 @ 3:31pm 
Yeah TBH, get a sarco. You can shove that ass on land when you're done with it, so you can bring it into your main base. Even a first-gen sarco (tamed before the level 30 cap raised) is holding its own against the new dangers of the sea now. No oxygen issues; make lazarus chowder, keep 2 on your person (1 on initial use, 1 just in case) and store the rest on the mount for the longer timer.

Ichthys are assfaces who forget you're feeding them and leave and then beach themselves while you're taming them.
explodingmonkey Jul 12, 2015 @ 3:42pm 
think about the Dolphin like a Raptor, the Mega like a Carno, and the Plesio like a Rex...

but in water. i mean not exactly but thats sort of the equivocation.

The Dolphin is my favorite cause its simple to tame, saddle mats and cheap, and its great for farming. Like people say its basically disposable.. But dont let it fight its own battles in the ocean. it can take on megas, even higher level ones just cause of the speed. you can stay on megas asses and they cant do ♥♥♥♥ to you. if used right a Ichthyosaur can killed a mega almost everytime. Unfortunely the Megaladon swarms that are command can overwhelm the squishier Dolphin.

The Megaladon is pretty sweet, but at times can be a pain in the ass to tame. not just because of the duration, but because other megas will cattack the taming one. so you have to keep it safe cause chances are you knocked it out near spots where megas swarm (thus why you were there trying to tame one in the first place). Also the saddle uses some more advanced mats so losing it its annoying. They are definately nice to farm with because they can handle themselves all around for the most part.

The plesio is basically useless in my honest opinion. It has alot of HP and for that reason could probably rule the seas but the fact that its such a ♥♥♥♥♥ to tame, just screw that. and yes i have tamed one, but the process i went thru to get it, for the acheiv, was just not worth it in the end. they really need to make this a bit less ridiculous to tame. As right now, its usefulness is very little, and its difficulty to acquire is thru the roof. at level 40 dont waste your time thinking about the plesio.

as far as sarcos/spinos. good luck with that, its only a matter of time before something happens and you lose it. they might have high o2 but they are not fishes and will drown if glitched out, which happens with them because both the sarco and spino have horrible turn radiuses. the sarco is almost worse i think. dont get me wrong spinos are strong and ive seen sarcos kill rexes before but they are just not ideal for water farming. maybe oil, but pearls, no, underwater caves? definately not. if you are using them and they work for you, great, but i can say i have heard of and witness alot of sarcos/spinos die when people try to use them to farm.
wilmer007 Jul 12, 2015 @ 3:44pm 
geez now i can't decide if i should go with the croc or the dolphin

can only choose one saddle :(
DaXX_One Jul 12, 2015 @ 3:47pm 
Originally posted by explodingmonkey:

The plesio is basically useless in my honest opinion. It has alot of HP and for that reason could probably rule the seas but the fact that its such a ♥♥♥♥♥ to tame, just screw that. and yes i have tamed one, but the process i went thru to get it, for the acheiv, was just not worth it in the end. they really need to make this a bit less ridiculous to tame. As right now, its usefulness is very little, and its difficulty to acquire is thru the roof. at level 40 dont waste your time thinking about the plesio.

It's to easy to get a Plesio! Just think before you do anything :-) Get some Lazarus Chowder, round about 10 units. Eat 1 and give another one to your Scorpion. I can easily knock out 3 Plesios at once. And you can do it solo! The taming needs a bit of time yeah...
explodingmonkey Jul 12, 2015 @ 3:49pm 
Originally posted by AlphaFerkel:
Originally posted by explodingmonkey:

The plesio is basically useless in my honest opinion. It has alot of HP and for that reason could probably rule the seas but the fact that its such a ♥♥♥♥♥ to tame, just screw that. and yes i have tamed one, but the process i went thru to get it, for the acheiv, was just not worth it in the end. they really need to make this a bit less ridiculous to tame. As right now, its usefulness is very little, and its difficulty to acquire is thru the roof. at level 40 dont waste your time thinking about the plesio.

It's to easy to get a Plesio! Just think before you do anything :-) Get some Lazarus Chowder, round about 10 units. Eat 1 and give another one to your Scorpion. I can easily knock out 3 Plesios at once. And you can do it solo! The taming needs a bit of time yeah...

but whats the point. so you waste the resources and then the even more rescources on the saddle and your driving your aqua-bronto. now what? if its just cause, then ok, good on you if you have the disposable mats to make it happen. but other wise, why bother?
Killua Jul 12, 2015 @ 3:49pm 
Originally posted by wilmer007:
geez now i can't decide if i should go with the croc or the dolphin

can only choose one saddle :(
Go for the dolphin, Sarco is a nightmare to fight with in the ocean.
DaXX_One Jul 12, 2015 @ 3:52pm 
Originally posted by explodingmonkey:
Originally posted by AlphaFerkel:

It's to easy to get a Plesio! Just think before you do anything :-) Get some Lazarus Chowder, round about 10 units. Eat 1 and give another one to your Scorpion. I can easily knock out 3 Plesios at once. And you can do it solo! The taming needs a bit of time yeah...

but whats the point. so you waste the resources and then the even more rescources on the saddle and your driving your aqua-bronto. now what? if its just cause, then ok, good on you if you have the disposable mats to make it happen. but other wise, why bother?

I don't think it's a "waste". What else can you do in that game? Well I must say, I am usually playing on a PvE Server so I don't need to mess with other players. In my oppinion taming is never a waste of ressources. Taming is the heartbeat of the game.
explodingmonkey Jul 12, 2015 @ 3:54pm 
Originally posted by AlphaFerkel:
Originally posted by explodingmonkey:

but whats the point. so you waste the resources and then the even more rescources on the saddle and your driving your aqua-bronto. now what? if its just cause, then ok, good on you if you have the disposable mats to make it happen. but other wise, why bother?

I don't think it's a "waste". What else can you do in that game? Well I must say, I am usually playing on a PvE Server so I don't need to mess with other players. In my oppinion taming is never a waste of ressources. Taming is the heartbeat of the game.

i get that sentiment, but either way, remember this guy is level 40. efficiency is the focus not swag, and plus he cant even make the saddle for the plesio for a bit anyways. at his point in the game its kind of a waste to go after a plesio when you dont even have a dolphin or anything for water farming in general yet. the plesio is not a "starter" pet for farming in the ocean. and its definately not "efficient".
IonoI Jul 12, 2015 @ 4:00pm 
itchy is small, fast to tame, and can go through the regular dino gate. You need a big fishtank + behemoth gate for the others.

i'd say itchy for gathering pearls and oil fast
mega for also killing other megas for prime(can be substituted by a spino+itchy)
I havn't had plesio yet but sounds like its an upgrade from mega, it's also tricky to tame.
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