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Ok thats pretty strange. Normally i would rather believe that something had hit the mammoth in his sleeping state. Because sure, the taming effectivness of mamoths is among the worst of the herbivores (along with a foodmeter maxed bronto) but such a drastic drop lets me believe that it took damage of some kind while getting tamed.
Did other guys roam around your taming place? maybe even riding rex/spino? the do damage if the walk, and if they got near to your mammoth they might have screwed up your taming.
I had it once that a mate had a rex on follow. And he trampled over a bronto we were taming. Took a hit about 30% or so on taming effectivness. (it happened long ago, so i might be a bit off here)
Hey no offense! i didn't mean to flame you or so. I just think that you missed something. Based on the information i found so far and on the tests i did myself i just can't confirm your statement.
we've tammed 3 mammoths now at 80% .
You need to starve them. make sure they've are 100% health when you knock them out. Then feed them about 1.5k rock-carrots(herb equivalent of prime meat). Starve for 2-3 hrs and then feed it. Pretty much instantly tames. Problems only start when you're trying to tame super High level mammoths. lvl40+ because they don't insta tame. Pretty much feed them only crop based food until and you'll get high TE. Mejo's just wont do it.
that is with minimum 2.2k Saveroot and Carrots. Once you start mixing berries in you loose TE. Its got to be 100% tier 2 food.
The starvation method has been proven ineffective for both time and effectiveness by multiple wiki and reddit users and I have done tests myself.
The effectiveness drops everytime it eats meaning your method just drops it a bunch at once
plus they will eat the same amount of food either way
you just have the risk of killing the pet of starvation
Just as an example: We tame Sabers @ level 60 with +15 levels @90%TE
Normal meat is 10 food/ prime is 20/ cooked prime is 35/ prime jerky is 40.
If you starve them to 100 food. then feed them they will constantly eat without stopping.(therefore reduces taming time) there is also a boost. When we drop the prime jerky onto it goes from 0 tame to about 70% tamed (food lvl dependent) so you end up with something like 98% -8~10% for the food consumption tame. Then the time tame usually drops about another 3-5 %.
Its also dependent on the raw stat from the animal itself. However we've done multiple tames using this method and it works every time. Its incredibly resource intensive, but if you want high TE% then that's the way you do it. takes 50 minutes to tame a lvl raptor or saber using this method.
But up to you if you don't believe it then go about doing it your own way. We're happily doing it our way and profiting.
http://ark.gamepedia.com/Taming
scroll down to outdated taming method
you will see you are wrong
you still don't get it do you...
That wiki is full of out of dated info.
example:
"Taming Effectiveness Taming with Higher Taming Affinity now increases base level of dino up to 50% if 100% effectiveness, improving its base statistics (previously wasn't doing much, was only generally increasing their damage). It does not have any effect on the taming speed of the dinosaur. The initial taming effectiveness is the percentage of health that the dino has when it becomes unconscious. Taming effectiveness decays every time the dinosaur eats (but NOT when the animal is fed a narcotic). The rate of decay can be slowed by feeding the dinosaur its favorite food. Speeding up the taming process by using Prime Meat for Carnivores or the species' preferred berry for Herbivores results in a higher Taming Effectiveness, because the Creature has to eat less times."
Note the preferred berry comment.
What i'm saying is that it isn't based on a method but math. The surge bypasses the timer, if you know what you're doing you can manipulate that to your advantage.
The simple fact is if you want higher taming efficiency then you need it to tame faster eat less providing that your base TE is high (ie full health). Yes you there's a fixed timer between the animals eating periods, the trick is to not get to that stage.
It would also help if all of these so called de-bunked theories actually took into account every aspect of the game. Plus that wiki's taming method has been there since the first week...
And we've tried most if not all of those methods, they barely even get you past 50% TE when you don't starve them. Instead of actually just refereing to someone outdated document maybe try reading what i've actually written. If you dont think that it works then by all means thats your opinion. The OP asked how to get it higher, I've stated how my tribe does it.
If you dont think it works by all means go about doing it your own way. No point leading a horse to water if it doesn't want to drink.
It's great that you're trying to help, but as others have already pointed out you're simply wrong in this case. The starvation myth was perpetuated a lot early on but has been repeatedly disproved since then.
One example: https://www.reddit.com/r/playark/comments/396twu/dino_science_does_starving_a_dino_make_it_tame/
I give you a link from Reddit. There is a datamined table wich says that Mejos are 2X better than T2 Food (doesnt matter if rockcarrot or Longrass etc...
https://www.reddit.com/r/playark/comments/3aeru9/a_handy_dino_taming_cheatsheet/
You can see that:
Mejo = 30 Food / 30 Progress
Azul/Amar/Tinto = 20 Food / 20 Progress
T2 Food (Rockcarrot, = 15 Food / 15 Progress
Wich means that every Herbivore has to eat way less with Mejo Berries wich doesn't drop your Eff that often too.
And if i remember right, the dev's already confirmed that they haven't had the time yet to give every Dino specific diets. So they did make Mejo the all herbivores favourite berry.
So then why did my mammoth start at 80% and end at 25%
He was only lvl 5. is there some penalty for force feeding narcotics?