Crop Plot Problems

[Cix77]

What the f.... is wrong with these crop plots, i try for a week now to get some seeds going to cook, i have not made anything yet, cause either they spoil in 2 seconds after you take them out, or they just disapear. (PvE)
I just seeded savoroot and longrass today, had then 3 longrass in crops inventory, ready to take out and cook, but i left them in there so they dont spoil, 30 minutes later i come back and they are gone, instead there is now just 1 seed in ints inventory.
What is going on?

[ciceqi]

Now, mind you I'm playing singleplayer, but I can't see why it would be any different in online. The plots are set up so that by the time the plants reach the "fruitling" stage, they should be producing a bit faster than they spoil. If you keep them hugely fertilized (to be safe, assume actual bags of fertilizer here - I usually keep at least two bags in each large plot so I don't have to worry about running out) and constantly watered (irrigation pipes connected to an actual water source, so it can't run out either), you should eventually reach a "cap" where no matter when you check it, you'll always have the same amount of fruits/veggies--as the first one spoils, a new one is produced to replace it. For the normal tier berries, the "cap" seems to be 28 berries; for the veggie tier, it seems like I usually max out at around 12, though now that I've got a fridge, I'm less worried about spoilage and just chuck them in there whenever I stop by the farm.

So I would check...are they for certain in the fruitling stage? Because I've had plots randomly give me fruits in the stage just below that, then dry up, just to taunt me.

Do they have a lot of fertilizer? Because the larger plots seem to go through it more quickly, though that may just be me. Also, I have heard that putting dino poop directly into the plots doesn't work but human poop does? Can't confirm, though; I always use the composting bins.

Is the water connected to a constant source? Because I've had small plots empty out on me if they run out of water, before I realized the singleplayer bug with reloading.

Lastly...is your server patched to 180.2 or above? Because that was the patch, as I recall, that stopped folks from stealing food from other people's plots. ^_^

And if none of those are the culprit...yeah, I'd say that was definitely a glitch! XD

Hopefully something in there was useful...good luck!

[Rook]

PvE used to have an issue that others could nick your crops I'm pretty sure.

It's also hard to tell whether you're getting them to the stage they actually grow properly and then running out of water/fertiliser and that's resetting them if it's degrading to just having the seed in the inventory. Human (100 fert) / small dino poo give miniscule amounts of fertiliser and if you run out the plant will regress. 3x medium/large dino poo into a compost bin with 50 thatch to make fertiliser gives you thousands of fertiliser, meaning it's much safer/less likely to run out.

So yeah I'm betting on either someone else accessing your crops (should be fixed in PvE in a recent patch) or you running out of fertiliser. Possibly both from people nicking your fertiliser.

[Murderhorse]

Originally posted by ciceqi:

Now, mind you I'm playing singleplayer

woahwoahwoahwoah

you sir

are you a god?

I've never been able to get farming to properly work in single player, I've always assumed that without any sort of external timekeeping (persistent server) farming wasn't working properly

TELL ME YOUR SECRETS

[Cix77]

I am on official server so its up to date, it had Fertilizer Bags in them, dino Poop should aso work, done it before.
Also got them connected to water.
after they are ready and you have savoroot, longgrass in the crops inventory, do they still need Fertilizer?
It could be that they just disapear if it runs out of fertilizer, what seems to be a Bug or unrealistic then. If you have a Potatoe or carrot in RL you also dont need fertilizer to keep it.
Would be nice if they change the spoiling to around 10 minutes when on player inventory, in fridge its good, but when you take them out the timer goes down to a few seconds.
Also till its cooked, 1 will spoil at least in that time till its done.

[Rook]

Originally posted by schleicher77:

I am on official server so its up to date, it had Fertilizer Bags in them, dino Poop should aso work, done it before.
Also got them connected to water.
after they are ready and you have savoroot, longgrass in the crops inventory, do they still need Fertilizer?
It could be that they just disapear if it runs out of fertilizer, what seems to be a Bug or unrealistic then. If you have a Potatoe or carrot in RL you also dont need fertilizer to keep it.
Would be nice if they change the spoiling to around 10 minutes when on player inventory, in fridge its good, but when you take them out the timer goes down to a few seconds.
Also till its cooked, 1 will spoil at least in that time till its done.

If you run out of fertiliser/water the crop will degrade at a set rate, same as it upgrades through the stages at a set rate when it's fully set up. There's a table of those speeds and the rate of consumption from the dev kit floating around. Better to keep it at the top stage though because it uses less fertiliser/water over time that way.

But yeah the crop fruits degrade pretty quickly outside of the crop plot, I keep a preserving bin beside the crops nowadays until we can get a fridge running, but it seems like we may as well just set them cooking as soon as we take them out atm.
Still waiting and hoping we can use these crops for faster herbivour taming, but meh. Atm it's oxygen stew ftw.

[ciceqi]

Originally posted by New and Improved Cadavers!:

Originally posted by ciceqi:

Now, mind you I'm playing singleplayer

woahwoahwoahwoah

you sir

are you a god?

I've never been able to get farming to properly work in single player, I've always assumed that without any sort of external timekeeping (persistent server) farming wasn't working properly

TELL ME YOUR SECRETS

It was seriously frustrating at first, because I was fighting this bug where if the water wasn't coming from a constant source like the ocean or a pond/river, it would empty out every time you reloaded. And running back and forth a million times with water skins got old really, really quick. Also it always shows fertilizer at zero on reload UNLESS your water is refreshing constantly, which may have had something to do with it. So rain collectors in singleplayer are right out.

Once I ran an irrigation line to a constant source, however, that kept the fertilzer count active even on reload and after that it was just plant and forget. It takes a while for the bushes to grow--and honestly, the small plots are pretty much worthless unless you're specifically farming for a single type of berry because the output is so small--and there are...four stages, I think? Seedling, growthling, midling, and fruitling. It will sometimes fake you out by giving you fruits at the midling stage, along with a seed, but my advice is to not touch them--especially the seed! I did that once to plant a new crop, and removing the seed seems to have wiped out the entire plant.

I did try using dino poop at first before I got the compost bins, but it just seemed really, really slow, and I kept getting screwed by that reset bug. So if you can do compost bins for actual sacks of fertilizer, that seemed to help--and you'll get so many of those bins in the supply drops, you'll end up leaving them behind after a while!

So yeah...overfertilize, constant water source, plant and go do something else for a good long time. ^_^ That's pretty much it!

[ciceqi]

Originally posted by schleicher77:

Would be nice if they change the spoiling to around 10 minutes when on player inventory, in fridge its good, but when you take them out the timer goes down to a few seconds.
Also till its cooked, 1 will spoil at least in that time till its done.

That's the beauty of waiting until it's at it's cap--since each stack has its own decay timer (and they stack to 100, so the fridge is awesome), if you take out more than you need, you should still have enough to cook with even with the decay rate. You just have to give it a bit more time and not harvest when there's only 3 unless you have a fridge to put them in. Just go out to harvest something (I have a taming addiction, so I go and do that for a while!), and when you come back, you should have a decent amount to work with.