Question regarding Wyvern eggs

[Alucard †]

Are egg levels in the nests random or depend on level of nearby wild Wyverns that are patroling said nests?

[きょすけ]

I personally don't find shadowmanes really that useful for wyvern egg stealing, mainly because of the lava flood, which makes moving on land a chore (albeit it could be somewhat useful for the ice wyvern eggs on fjordur, since there is no lava for obvious reasons).

I've also heard about "suicide" solutions, in which you get the egg and move far away and get killed on purpose, so that when you respawn you can safely go back to retrieve your bag, and thus the egg as well, for obvious reasons you would store most stuff from your inventory first. Another alternative is to do the same while having on your shoulder the fjordhawk, it has an unique ability in which it will teleport the bag you drop on death under your feet when you respawn (unless it gets killed I believe).

[Alucard †]

Yea leftharted suggested the "suicide" solution.
I kind of like that idea crude but might be much more effective than what i already tried.

I'm gonna make some preparations make a small "camp" with beds nearby and tame/breed some disposable fliers and just Leeroy Jenkins the eggs out of the trench.

[Alucard †]

Hmmm i am starting to have doubts regarding the answers i got to my original question.

There seem to only be level 100+ Wyverns in the trench yet eggs as low as 15-20 keep respawning.

It seems like it's just pure RNG.

[leftharted]

Originally posted by ⎛ Alucard ⎞ ✟:

Hmmm i am starting to have doubts regarding the answers i got to my original question.

There seem to only be level 100+ Wyverns in the trench yet eggs as low as 15-20 keep respawning.

It seems like it's just pure RNG.

it seems that way; and it sort-of is pure RNG; but it it definitely contingent on the Wyverns near the nest at the time of generation. The issue you're having, IMO, is the map. that SE trench is huge.

If you're doing it solo, the new low levels are spawning inside the trench (putting them closest to the nest spawns) before the high levels have a chance to 'settle' back down near the nests (assuming they werent lead outside of the trench, which is too far for them ever to trigger an egg).

it used to take a serious amount of effort, and sometimes 3-8 of us to properly clear out the low levels; because you need to Continue to cull the heard until all that is spawned is high level; else the server has the potential to spawn new low levels to pool eggs from. gonna have to keep at it until all of the maps wyvern spawns are taken by high levels, or just get lucky.....

ive had a much easier time on the newer maps with smaller specialized wyvern trenches as the spawn quantity is smaller and thusly easier to control and manipulate, IMO.

to add: i don't even do this much anymore TBH, as I've had a few young children IRL since i played ark online regularly; and now only play solo with a bunch of QoL mods when i have time... one of said mods forces all things to spawn levels 100-150 (or 150-225 for wyverns, deinos, drakes, magmas) and thusly spend FAR less time hunting for good tames/eggs. It conversely upped the difficulty a bit too (which i like) as nothing is a total pushover.

[きょすけ]

Originally posted by ⎛ Alucard ⎞ ✟:

Hmmm i am starting to have doubts regarding the answers i got to my original question.

There seem to only be level 100+ Wyverns in the trench yet eggs as low as 15-20 keep respawning.

It seems like it's just pure RNG.

Don't forget that many dino spawn INSIDE structures, caves floor and so on, so they could trigger those eggs as well: I usually kill any stuck dino, but they usually respawn so fast that I stopped doing that altogether.

I also advice as leftharted does with mods which improve level ranges of wild dinos, even with difficulty set to 1 and override to 5.0, higher level dino spawn will be always rare.

I use kraken's better dino mod, which other than not changing much stuff, it fixes MANY broken dino (especially ferox), and one of the mod option is to equalize level range.

[Alucard †]

Hmm maybe as a non modded method i should do what i did with Deinonychus and crank up the difficulty offset further at least for the time of the collection ^^ or try different map.

On side note odd thing happened as i was scouting the nests:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2954058596
It popped into existence out of nowhere stiff as a plank and not interactable.

[william_es]

Originally posted by ⎛ Alucard ⎞ ✟:

Hmm maybe as a non modded method i should do what i did with Deinonychus and crank up the difficulty offset further at least for the time of the collection ^^ or try different map.

On side note odd thing happened as i was scounting the nests:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2954058596
It popped into existence out of nowhere stiff as a plank and not interactable.

LOL ark being ark.

Sorry to hear you were having that experience with shadowmanes. I've been using them for a while now, and I'm used to how their powers works. I've used them on crystal isles, on lost island (which has a lava trench), and a couple other maps for stealing eggs from other creatures (magmasaurs, deino, etc).

There are certain spots on some maps where simply crossing an invisible line will cause every nearby wyvern to aggro on you, even though the shadowmane is still cloaked. There's a spot on crystal isles that it happens 100% of the time.

[P.]

Originally posted by ⎛ Alucard ⎞ ✟:

Hmmm i am starting to have doubts regarding the answers i got to my original question.

There seem to only be level 100+ Wyverns in the trench yet eggs as low as 15-20 keep respawning.

It seems like it's just pure RNG.

Are you playing on SE? I think it's harder to get high level wyverns. Ragnarok and Lost Island are the maps where I got the highest wyvern levels.

[Sgt Griss]

ignore basically everything Alucard has posted in this thread about Pig healing wyverns to raise them because on a real or even close to official rate server it unrealistic.

The food consumption of the Daeodon is so high vs the healing output it burns though food so quickly it will not keep up with the health loss of the baby in a efficient manner to keep it alive without you having to consistently fill its food or pod the baby. This is a process they would have to be done away from your base and every trough in the area that any other Dino depends on as they wipe troughs out in your base very quickly. Using Pigs to raise wyverns is about the worse way to go about avoiding milk or crystal timers.

Your far better off letting them mature till they are low health and owl healing them if you plan to use this method or not be lazy and just go get milk or dont raise animals you cant take care of. Valguero is and extremely easy place to farm wyvern milk if other servers give you trouble.

Care timers asking for milk are easy to bypass you just cryo pod and re throw to change the care timer request

[きょすけ]

Originally posted by Sgt Griss:

ignore basically everything Alucard has posted in this thread about Pig healing wyverns to raise them because on a real or even close to official rate server it unrealistic.

The food consumption of the Daeodon is so high vs the healing output it burns though food so quickly it will not keep up with the health loss of the baby in a efficient manner to keep it alive without you having to consistently fill its food or pod the baby. This is a process they would have to be done away from your base and every trough in the area that any other Dino depends on as they wipe troughs out in your base very quickly. Using Pigs to raise wyverns is about the worse way to go about avoiding milk or crystal timers.

Your far better off letting them mature till they are low health and owl healing them if you plan to use this method or not be lazy and just go get milk or dont raise animals you cant take care of. Valguero is and extremely easy place to farm wyvern milk if other servers give you trouble.

Care timers asking for milk are easy to bypass you just cryo pod and re throw to change the care timer request

I don't see your point: ⎛ Alucard ⎞ ✟ never suggested to do this to someone, and even then almost nobody uses official or close to breeding and maturation times.

[Alucard †]

Originally posted by Sgt Griss:

ignore basically everything Alucard has posted in this thread about Pig healing wyverns to raise them because on a real or even close to official rate server it unrealistic.

The food consumption of the Daeodon is so high vs the healing output it burns though food so quickly it will not keep up with the health loss of the baby in a efficient manner to keep it alive without you having to consistently fill its food or pod the baby. This is a process they would have to be done away from your base and every trough in the area that any other Dino depends on as they wipe troughs out in your base very quickly. Using Pigs to raise wyverns is about the worse way to go about avoiding milk or crystal timers.

Your far better off letting them mature till they are low health and owl healing them if you plan to use this method or not be lazy and just go get milk or dont raise animals you cant take care of. Valguero is and extremely easy place to farm wyvern milk if other servers give you trouble.

Care timers asking for milk are easy to bypass you just cryo pod and re throw to change the care timer request

A. I never suggested this method to anyone i just said that's what i've been using on my Single Player world.

B. You can cryopod the Wyvern once Daeodon runs out of food. Then release it once it's belly is full again and continue healing the Wyvern.

C. As i mentioned in post that you probably didn't read i dropped that idea cause i simply increased the maturation speed a bit more and that made it so Wyvern's don't need milk at all now (but other tames still do need to be fed when maturing) Which suits me just fine.

So i am not sure what you trying to prove with your post.

[larpo71]

One problem your having is the map itself. SE is no better than the Island when it comes to wild dino levels and it means you will have to work very hard to get rid of the low level Wyvern to get the high ones to spawn. Also the trench in SE is huge and if you were willing to go to another map to tame a ShadowMane then you would have a better chance of getting high level eggs going to a map with better levels, basically any of the non-canon DLC maps with Wyverns.

Ragnarok was the 1st map to throw out Arks level system and give higher levels a better spawn chance and the other free DLC creators used the same system on there maps. Ragnarok also split its scar into two connected scars so you didn't have to deal with 20 or more Wyverns at the same time, and a cave in the south was added as a 2nd Wyvern nest site. They also added Ice Wyverns to the snow biome, but it is so cold in the areas where the nest spawn that I won't suggest going after them.

Fjordur has changed up the Wyvern nests even more by seperating them by type and giving you 4 different locations to choose from, allowing you to go after whatever type you want or allowing you to collect all of one type and then go after the next one.

Other DLC maps also have Wyverns, but these are the only 2 I have personal experience on.

On a side note the ShadowMane is a very good tame, but it has a silly high learning curve and when going after Wyvern simple is the best way.