Why not cavemen?

[Akhorahil]

The Ape fail post got me thinking. I mean we (our characters) are obviously advanced humaniods. So why not neanderthals? Small NPC tribes hunting and gathering. We could raid them or "tame them" as allies.

Perhaps a bit much at this stage but something to think about in the future.

[marineHATLING]

or traid with them

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Neanderthals are too human for my liking.

Not to mention, how are you going to manage their AI? Are they just going to keep building things randomly?

[marineHATLING]

have little huts and keep ther ai in the huts or in a fence

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Originally posted by marineHATLING:

have little huts and keep ther ai in the huts or in a fence

Still doesn't answer the question.

How are you going to create effective neanderthal AI? What happens when you destroy their tribe? Do they just build in random spots? Do they expand? How big will tribes be?

[Akhorahil]

naw you'd do them kind of like the Ape. They don't exactly wander around. They stay in a small general area. Kinda cross with the ants. Different types of ants. Men attack animals for meat, women gather berries.

You don't have them go off on their own, you got a couple of small huts they are "tethered" to.

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I dont want this as we all ready have humans

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Originally posted by Akhorahil:

naw you'd do them kind of like the Ape. They don't exactly wander around. They stay in a small general area. Kinda cross with the ants. Different types of ants. Men attack animals for meat, women gather berries.

You don't have them go off on their own, you got a couple of small huts they are "tethered" to.

So they are just going to randomly take up island space?

Sounds horribly annoying.

Are there going to be spawn limits? Size limits? Do they kill other dinos? Do they craft?

Creating Neanderthal tribes would require a crapton more work that could be spent doing other things.

[marineHATLING]

Originally posted by Akhorahil:

naw you'd do them kind of like the Ape. They don't exactly wander around. They stay in a small general area. Kinda cross with the ants. Different types of ants. Men attack animals for meat, women gather berries.

You don't have them go off on their own, you got a couple of small huts they are "tethered" to.

thank you

[Caboose]

Dev's stated in latest digest they are leaving ai tribe's to modding community, and drake has stated a few times over the last months that they have no plans for intelligent npcs :(

[Akhorahil]

They seem to be heading that way anyhow. I mean in respects to herds. IDK about your server but on ours we are seeing more and more herds. 5-6 trikes/anklos together. stuff like that. And plus the compy is coming out. It's a pack animal by design. It's in the bio. The lone compy calls for help and the compys in the area come to investigate. The larger the pack, the more aggressive they get. You could apply the same logic there.

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Originally posted by Akhorahil:

They seem to be heading that way anyhow. I mean in respects to herds. IDK about your server but on ours we are seeing more and more herds. 5-6 trikes/anklos together. stuff like that. And plus the compy is coming out. It's a pack animal by design. It's in the bio. The lone compy calls for help and the compys in the area come to investigate. The larger the pack, the more aggressive they get. You could apply the same logic there.

Simulating simple animal behavior is far, far easier than simulating human behavior.

Expecially those who are able to build and make tools.

[stephenvz]

Would say this falls under this statement.

Survivor, [KyG]-Box asks, “Do you ever plan on releasing AI tribesmen?”

Answer: Nope -- but modders could :D

[Akhorahil]

Originally posted by Wotsa:

Originally posted by Akhorahil:

They seem to be heading that way anyhow. I mean in respects to herds. IDK about your server but on ours we are seeing more and more herds. 5-6 trikes/anklos together. stuff like that. And plus the compy is coming out. It's a pack animal by design. It's in the bio. The lone compy calls for help and the compys in the area come to investigate. The larger the pack, the more aggressive they get. You could apply the same logic there.

Simulating simple animal behavior is far, far easier than simulating human behavior.

Expecially those who are able to build and make tools.

come on now... They didn't simulate animal behavior. They are skins walking around. It would be no different than the animals. They already have dilos that have ranged attacks and they are introducing plants that have ranged attacks soon.

I'm not asking for perfection here... If I was I'd be complaining about every dino that already is in the game. They all just wander around aimlessly with no thought of what's near them. You think a bunch of trikes would just stand there watching a TRex run up on them? no they'd be working together as a pack.

I don't have those expectations. That's VERY hard for them to do, something you suggest is easy. I'm content with mobs floating around in areas.

And there's no reason to pretend it's any more difficult for them to make humaniod mobs. There are 1000's of open world games that have humanoid mobs.

I also don't have a problem if they arn't planning on doing it either. The devs got a lot on their plate. Just an idea I had and floated it.

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Originally posted by Akhorahil:

come on now... They didn't simulate animal behavior. They are skins walking around. It would be no different than the animals. They already have dilos that have ranged attacks and they are introducing plants that have ranged attacks soon.

I'm not asking for perfection here... If I was I'd be complaining about every dino that already is in the game. They all just wander around aimlessly with no thought of what's near them. You think a bunch of trikes would just stand there watching a TRex run up on them? no they'd be working together as a pack.

I don't have those expectations. That's VERY hard for them to do, something you suggest is easy. I'm content with mobs floating around in areas.

And there's no reason to pretend it's any more difficult for them to make humaniod mobs. There are 1000's of open world games that have humanoid mobs.

I also don't have a problem if they arn't planning on doing it either. The devs got a lot on their plate. Just an idea I had and floated it.

Then you are basically asking for apes with houses that randomly spawn near them. What exactly is the pupose of that then?

So, they aren't going to build, or hunt, or start fires, or create tools, or interact. Just wander around.

If you are not going to have the humanoids act like humanoids, then there is not real purpose to adding them. You are basically asking for dinosaurs with a human skin.

[Ender]

maybe, but "taming humans" sounds like enslaving them, which whatever its a game, but to me it sounds wierd