Sickle Worth it?

[Squirting Elephant]

18 metal ingots = nuts for the crafting requirements, and it probably neds some metal to repair as well... I'm farming metal on a hilltop on those yellow striped rocks but it still goes relatively slow. Am I collecting metal the wrong way perhaps?

[leftharted]

100% worth it.

but that doesn't mean unlock the engram; if you can barter for a sickle from another player. Sure, if you ever lose it you're screwed... but if the issue is conserving engram points, then don't waste them.

also, if 18 ingots seems like too much to you, then yes you need to refine your metal gathering techniques.

if you can fly a ptera, tame a few birds (low level, don't need to be perfect tames) to Mule for your Ptera. They also double as decent guards for your Ptera, which should be on passive. each bid can hold about 300-400 lbs of weight, so you can caravan quite a bit of metal. I did this mid-game levels.

at higher level, I have a real basic pen with a high level anky at the top of a mountain; with several furnaces. I often keep the furnaces full easily with the Anky, and carvan smelted ingots down to my actual base in bulk.

just my 2c.

[Squirting Elephant]

What is a good (Safe) spot to get an anky? I tried one on the mountains itself. But the t-rexes, saber spawns, raptors, and other nasty stuff spawns there in large quantities as well. Getting the anky out alive, as well as myself is kinda hard.

[leftharted]

Messaggio originale di Silver:

What is a good (Safe) spot to get an anky? I tried one on the mountains itself. But the t-rexes, saber spawns, raptors, and other nasty stuff spawns there in large quantities as well. Getting the anky out alive, as well as myself is kinda hard.

they tend to come down to the beach at the northeast corner of the map; that can be a decent place to tame one.

my rule of thumb for this very issue, is to always bring some fence foundations and thatch walls to erect around your precious unconscious tame to keep pesky wild creatures from affecting your taming efficiency... that being said, large creatures can waltz right over 3 high walls; so i usually clear the area after i have a basic fence around my tame.

if your guard dog pets cant keep the area clear, you need better guard pets. at low levels, a pack of 3+ leveled raptors should be enough of guards to wreck any pesky wild rex's; unless a 120 comes up on you... even then; if 3+ raptors have at least 2/3k hp, they should be able to YOLO a 120 rex.

if you are really against staying on the mountain where you find the anky, make the taming pen along the beach and kite the anky to it.

[Defektiv]

Messaggio originale di stallioncue25:

What I wanna know is what people are using so much fiber for in the late game that would make the sickle worth it?

You guys building giant log mansions? I just don't get it.

It's several crafting recipes and higher tier gear requires massive quantities of the base goods required for the item. It's also used in kibble recipes.

[Quxudais]

Messaggio originale di Silver:

18 metal ingots = nuts for the crafting requirements, and it probably neds some metal to repair as well... I'm farming metal on a hilltop on those yellow striped rocks but it still goes relatively slow. Am I collecting metal the wrong way perhaps?

Yes. absolutely. It requires ingots to repair but even a primative one deterioriates very slowly. Find some heavy bamboo groves and swing away, you'll have more fiber than you know what to do with.

As for finding an anklyo in relative saftey, check around 65,25. It's a beach along the western part of the central river that spawns tons and tons of herbivores of all varieties. Sometimes Rex's spawn there yes, but they almost always are duking it out with the six or more brontos that spawn in the same spot and typically lose badly.

[leftharted]

Messaggio originale di stallioncue25:

What I wanna know is what people are using so much fiber for in the late game that would make the sickle worth it?

You guys building giant log mansions? I just don't get it.

its really only when i tame something new and need a new saddle... grab the sickle and spend 60 seconds gathering 500 fiber to make 2 saddles and then stick the sickle back in its box...

i wouldn't say at high level that i need TONs of fiber, its more like when i do need a chunk of it, it only takes me a minute to amass the fiber; rather than 5min sorting through berries.

ii could manage without it, but having a sickle makes those "oh snap i need 230 fiber real fast" moments a blur...

[anarchyxf36]

Messaggio originale di quxudais:

Messaggio originale di Silver:

18 metal ingots = nuts for the crafting requirements, and it probably neds some metal to repair as well... I'm farming metal on a hilltop on those yellow striped rocks but it still goes relatively slow. Am I collecting metal the wrong way perhaps?

Yes. absolutely. It requires ingots to repair but even a primative one deterioriates very slowly. Find some heavy bamboo groves and swing away, you'll have more fiber than you know what to do with.

As for finding an anklyo in relative saftey, check around 65,25. It's a beach along the western part of the central river that spawns tons and tons of herbivores of all varieties. Sometimes Rex's spawn there yes, but they almost always are duking it out with the six or more brontos that spawn in the same spot and typically lose badly.

Those rex's are an easy tame as well, all things considering since you can stand on the side of the mountain in complete safety peggin it with tranq arrows until it drops ;)

[Quxudais]

Messaggio originale di stallioncue25:

Messaggio originale di Defektiv:

It's several crafting recipes and higher tier gear requires massive quantities of the base goods required for the item. It's also used in kibble recipes.

Yeah I took all that into account. I still don't get it.

I have saddles that require 1,800 fiber per craft. Armor that require 600 per craft, I use thatch and wood structures as temporary building materials to get building layout and shapes right before solidifying them in stone or metal. Wood fences are standard taming pens, which i carry with me out to anywhere i need to go, ramps get used frequently in all manner of different applications.

The vast majority of my home in the montains is solid stone, probably bordering on 300,000 stone worth if I had to guess though that might be low. I don't use wood to build seriously any more, but my journeyman sickle still finds plenty of use. I didn't even touch on repairs.

Fact is even if you are 100% metal, you will still need to harvest fiber on occasion, and large sums of it. Do you want to handpick every piece when you find yourself needing 3,000 or would you rather swing a sickle at some bamboo for about two minutes?

I may have a journeyman sickle now but I also still have my grey sickle I made the day it was usable and never regretted making it.

[leftharted]

Messaggio originale di stallioncue25:

Messaggio originale di leftharted:

its really only when i tame something new and need a new saddle... grab the sickle and spend 60 seconds gathering 500 fiber to make 2 saddles and then stick the sickle back in its box...

i wouldn't say at high level that i need TONs of fiber, its more like when i do need a chunk of it, it only takes me a minute to amass the fiber; rather than 5min sorting through berries.

ii could manage without it, but having a sickle makes those "oh snap i need 230 fiber real fast" moments a blur...

So its totally worth it to save 4 minutes?

I still don't get it.

IMHO the sickle isn't worth it.

Yes; the sickle is worth 5 minutes, every three days or so, for however long i plan to play Ark for...

what exactly do you have Against the sickle? the cost? the engrams?

i don't get why you cant get it.

[Quxudais]

Messaggio originale di leftharted:

Messaggio originale di stallioncue25:

So its totally worth it to save 4 minutes?

I still don't get it.

IMHO the sickle isn't worth it.

Yes; the sickle is worth 5 minutes, every three days or so, for however long i plan to play Ark for...

what exactly do you have Against the sickle? the cost? the engrams?

i don't get why you cant get it.

I'm guessing he will refuse to use any upper level hatchets as well, considering they cost far far more to keep repaired than a sickle does. I spend over 35 ingots per repair on axe and it breaks considerably faster than any other tool I use.

[Janus]

Messaggio originale di stallioncue25:

Messaggio originale di quxudais:

I'm guessing he will refuse to use any upper level hatchets as well, considering they cost far far more to keep repaired than a sickle does. I spend over 35 ingots per repair on axe and it breaks considerably faster than any other tool I use.

You're guessing wrong because my axe is journyman as it might come in handy to quickly harvest wood for a fire on the go. But if were being real even the axe is seldomly used at the end of the game.

I use the axe late game. It allows me to gather about 25 wood per tree and trees go down in single hits. I also use it to gather stone as my gather rate is about same over 15 mins time as my 900% melee Deod.

Metal with a 141% pickaxe usually yields me around 1500 metal in a full run which is 20-30 mins.

So yeah, the axe and pickaxe late game is very worth it. Metal to repair should not be an issue when you start actually using these tools and the attribute build of your character to gather.

[leftharted]

Messaggio originale di stallioncue25:

Messaggio originale di quxudais:

I have saddles that require 1,800 fiber per craft. Armor that require 600 per craft, I use thatch and wood structures as temporary building materials to get building layout and shapes right before solidifying them in stone or metal. Wood fences are standard taming pens, which i carry with me out to anywhere i need to go, ramps get used frequently in all manner of different applications.

The vast majority of my home in the montains is solid stone, probably bordering on 300,000 stone worth if I had to guess though that might be low. I don't use wood to build seriously any more, but my journeyman sickle still finds plenty of use. I didn't even touch on repairs.

Fact is even if you are 100% metal, you will still need to harvest fiber on occasion, and large sums of it. Do you want to handpick every piece when you find yourself needing 3,000 or would you rather swing a sickle at some bamboo for about two minutes?

I may have a journeyman sickle now but I also still have my grey sickle I made the day it was usable and never regretted making it.

I want you to screenshot a saddle recipe that requires 1800 fiber.

Despite that, by the time you're at that point in the game you don't have fiber already stockpiled?

I'm still not convinced.

I'd rather tame an ape than be bothered with the sickle when it comes down to it.

I don't have a screen, I'm at work..
http://steamcommunity.com/app/346110/discussions/0/523890681405425141/

But, journeyman saddles that require fiber, definitely require allot. Allot more than most any higher level is willing to hand pick. Therefore, sickle is very worth it... For anyone.

[tyonisius]

Messaggio originale di stallioncue25:

What I wanna know is what people are using so much fiber for in the late game that would make the sickle worth it?

You guys building giant log mansions? I just don't get it.

I tend to build wood foundations for fast levels.

[Pants]

Messaggio originale di Dr Cyanide:

well you get like 50 fiber a swipe depending on your stats and it lasts forever from what I can see...

still the Giganto is a bit more time efficiant to use as it's automated and you fire it off and forget about it til lyou need fiber

yeah set apes on wander for like 15-20 minutes and you are set with fiber for awhile.

[Gulch]

Messaggio originale di stallioncue25:

I want you to screenshot a saddle recipe that requires 1800 fiber.

I'm guessing that you haven't seen any high level blueprints... the mat requirements on some of them are insane. So don't pooh pooh something just because you haven't progressed that far yet.