ARK: Survival Evolved

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EvilRobotV2 Aug 28, 2015 @ 2:26pm
Taming USING a Scorpion?
Is it possible to knock things out with a Scorpion? And is it better to do so with one? I have a level 149 Scorpion so losing too much health wont be a problem. And by taming I mean smalls things such as Sabertooths, Carnos, Raptors etc. For a T-Rex i'm guess you must use a tranq as they are much harder. If it is possible to tame using a Scorpion has anyone does it and have a video? If not how do I do it and how often do I attack?
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Angelous Wang Aug 28, 2015 @ 2:33pm 
It is possible, however it got nerfed a while back (the posion used to stack, it doesn't now).

Most recommend waiting 10 secs between attacks, though you only have to wait about 5 secs with a bow.

I think the is just to allow what you are attacking time to heal, so you don't kill it, since a Scrop hits harder than a bow.

Whether you want to use one it's problbly better to get a low level one with low melee damage and then just throw all it's level up points into health. You don't want it hitting things harder than it already does and you will need health for suriving the tranq.

Last edited by Angelous Wang; Aug 28, 2015 @ 2:35pm
gamecreator Aug 28, 2015 @ 2:53pm 
Originally posted by Angelous Wang:
I think the is just to allow what you are attacking time to heal, so you don't kill it, since a Scrop hits harder than a bow.
See, I thought I heard the opposite. I thought tranquing with a scorpion tames dinos more effectively specifically because the sting does little or no damage (at least less than any bow). Can anyone confirm either way?
SilvaDreams Aug 28, 2015 @ 2:56pm 
Originally posted by gamecreator:
Originally posted by Angelous Wang:
I think the is just to allow what you are attacking time to heal, so you don't kill it, since a Scrop hits harder than a bow.
See, I thought I heard the opposite. I thought tranquing with a scorpion tames dinos more effectively specifically because the sting does little or no damage (at least less than any bow). Can anyone confirm either way?
The higher damage a scorpion does the more torpor it inflicts but also it causes more damage so you can easily kill things on accident so it is actually better to have little to no attack on a scorpion ment for taming and just adding lots of HP, stamina and speed (for running away while waiting)
If you want it for attack or defense reasons dump the HP and attack.. that attacking Trex is ganna be feeling woozy unless he focuses on the scorpion first
Last edited by SilvaDreams; Aug 28, 2015 @ 2:58pm
EvilRobotV2 Aug 28, 2015 @ 2:59pm 
Originally posted by Angelous Wang:
It is possible, however it got nerfed a while back (the posion used to stack, it doesn't now).

Most recommend waiting 10 secs between attacks, though you only have to wait about 5 secs with a bow.

I think the is just to allow what you are attacking time to heal, so you don't kill it, since a Scrop hits harder than a bow.

Whether you want to use one it's problbly better to get a low level one with low melee damage and then just throw all it's level up points into health. You don't want it hitting things harder than it already does and you will need health for suriving the tranq.
Thank you! I will tame a low level saber and see how that works out if it does to much damage I will tame another scorpion and up its health stamina and speed :)
The HunterGamer Aug 28, 2015 @ 5:13pm 
Scorpions' Topor sting level with their Melee stats at 45 Topor & 15 ATK per 100% melee. So you can calculate how much Topor and damage your scorpion can do by using this formula:

Sting Topor = (Melee%) x .45
Sting Damage = (Melee%) x .15

So judging from those stats scorpions don't level melee output that well so as long as you wait on your stings for the 10 seconds it takes the topor to raise you shouldn't wory about killing the bigger dinos you want your scorpion to knock out, but the Topor stats skyrocket with leveling.
EvilRobotV2 Aug 29, 2015 @ 6:53pm 
Bump! Is this possible? I tried knocking out things and it takes for freaking ever! I end up killing it!
daurischel Aug 29, 2015 @ 10:53pm 
Yes it's possible.

You need to make sure that there is 10 seconds between the stings, otherwise you kill the creature you're trying to knockout.

I've got a 600% melee damage scorp and i use it to knockout brontos, rex's and other large creatures easily.

It only takes a few stings too much to kill my prey though so be carefull.
Qubaal3 Aug 30, 2015 @ 1:37am 
Originally posted by daurischel:
Yes it's possible.

You need to make sure that there is 10 seconds between the stings, otherwise you kill the creature you're trying to knockout.

I've got a 600% melee damage scorp and i use it to knockout brontos, rex's and other large creatures easily.

It only takes a few stings too much to kill my prey though so be carefull.

^ This is correct. I have a 535% damage Scorpion and working it up to take on higher level BIG dinos. The smaller low level, dinos I do not sting them with my scorpion, cause it will one shot kill them. Also, the 10 second time between strikes is not easy to perform, but if you have the graphic on, you can see the damage you do by the amount of blood the prey has. I will stop attacking when the blood appears on the torso of the prey. Hope this helps, the OP.
einherjar_81 Aug 30, 2015 @ 1:46am 
Going to copy/paste this comment I made just tonight on a similar thread in which OP posted previously...

Taming with a scorpion is far more dangerous and time-consuming than using tranq arrows. Arrows inflict 200% weapon damage as torpor instantly, and another 250% torpor over 4s. Base damage on a crossbow is 95. So, with a Primitive crossbow, I'm inflicting 190 torpor instantly, and another 237.5 torpor over the next 4s, for a total of 427.5 torpor / shot / 4s, or 106.875 torpor / s. A scorpion at 100% melee damage inflicts 45 torpor over 10s. That's a paltry 4.5 torpor / s. To reach the level of just a primitive crossbow (ignoring higher-tier crossbows, and headshot multipliers), your scorp would need to have ~2500% melee damage. That doesn't leave much room for the health needed to survive melee range encounters with larger dinos.

RIP scorpions for taming.
einherjar_81 Aug 30, 2015 @ 1:50am 
Originally posted by gamecreator:
Originally posted by Angelous Wang:
I think the is just to allow what you are attacking time to heal, so you don't kill it, since a Scrop hits harder than a bow.
See, I thought I heard the opposite. I thought tranquing with a scorpion tames dinos more effectively specifically because the sting does little or no damage (at least less than any bow). Can anyone confirm either way?

That's bogus. So long as you don't kill the creature, taming effectiveness is the same whether a dino has 99% or 1% health remaining when it goes unconscious. Hence why crossbow headshots are the best method for KO'ing anything that doesn't fly and has more health than a Dodo.
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