Mounts with no saddles

[Sha1yen]

In the snow/swamp biome video today, it looks like the wolves will be ridden without a saddle. Same as the manta-ray that was announced last week. So I wonder, will these mounts have an alternate option to get some bonus armor or are they simply designed to be more squishy in combat?

[Zenexras of Blackwick]

Originally posted by Crow:

That's because they admin forced tamed them to make the vid. Any admin forcetame can be ridden without a saddle. I really doubt they actually knocked out and tamed a direwolf to tour around and make a vid. :)

I am guessing that a saddle will most definately be needed.

The mega and frog had a saddle in the video though.

[Ruse]

Originally posted by Crow:

That's because they admin forced tamed them to make the vid. Any admin forcetame can be ridden without a saddle. I really doubt they actually knocked out and tamed a direwolf to tour around and make a vid. :)

I am guessing that a saddle will most definately be needed.

Yes, because the devs are bound by the same restrictions players are. They can't just do whatever they want with their dev tools and have to forcetame obviously.

[High4Life]

you dont need a saddle for the wolf

[apophenia]

TBH I like this development. I think saddles (utility and design) are something that needs an update pass in this game. The parts of a horse saddle are all there for a reason, it's designed to support the rider in a particular seated position. When you copy that same basic saddle shape onto an animal that is ridden very differently (for instance, bronto rider is perched way up top) it looks silly, and is very unrealistic from a weight and bulk perspective. A single one of the rings that divert the straps over the bronto's chest is bigger than my character - but that saddle weighs the same amount as a saddle for a horse-sized creature, I can carry it easily, put it on the dino with ease. Also, lots of saddles which are crafted without metal clearly have metal buckles or fittings. Obviously a graphics pass is not the devs' priority right now, but I would love to see the visuals and the logistics brought more into line :)

I also like the idea of riding more dinos bareback - it would be great for new players if, for instance, you could ride *any* creature bareback, but would randomly fall off and take damage. It could even be a skill-based thing. If you're a noob you fall off a few times per minute, if you're experienced with that species, almost never.

[Sha1yen]

Well my concern was more battle focused. Since the armor from saddles add a lot of survivability to combat, I was just wondering if there'd be something else to compensate from the lack of saddle armor. Like the bigfoots that gets to wear helmets

[Digi-Mau]

Originally posted by tuesdayrain:

TBH I like this development. I think saddles (utility and design) are something that needs an update pass in this game. The parts of a horse saddle are all there for a reason, it's designed to support the rider in a particular seated position. When you copy that same basic saddle shape onto an animal that is ridden very differently (for instance, bronto rider is perched way up top) it looks silly, and is very unrealistic from a weight and bulk perspective. A single one of the rings that divert the straps over the bronto's chest is bigger than my character - but that saddle weighs the same amount as a saddle for a horse-sized creature, I can carry it easily, put it on the dino with ease. Also, lots of saddles which are crafted without metal clearly have metal buckles or fittings. Obviously a graphics pass is not the devs' priority right now, but I would love to see the visuals and the logistics brought more into line :)

I also like the idea of riding more dinos bareback - it would be great for new players if, for instance, you could ride *any* creature bareback, but would randomly fall off and take damage. It could even be a skill-based thing. If you're a noob you fall off a few times per minute, if you're experienced with that species, almost never.

I see where you are coming from with this, but with the amount of dinos this game will have at release this is probably not a viable option. its too complex for something so simple. The same treats dinos like cars in a racing game... maybe a tank in a war game (because damage). games like those wont make you learn to drive each individual car to use them properly.

[Nemi]

Originally posted by Repzo:

Well my concern was more battle focused. Since the armor from saddles add a lot of survivability to combat, I was just wondering if there'd be something else to compensate from the lack of saddle armor. Like the bigfoots that gets to wear helmets

the gorillas have no armor either but you can put a helmet on them so i can imagine its the same if they dont need a saddle

[apophenia]

Craftable armor for dinos would be amazing. I would guess that this is coming - I hope so.

@ Digital Art (FiM) - I agree, that's why I was thinking only bareback would be a skill with saddled riding as predictable as it is now. I just think the game would be more interesting if there was some option for low-level players to ride high-level dinos. I tamed a spino at level 30, a few weeks ago, and I just got the saddle engram 2 days ago - if I could have ridden that spino bareback all this time, albeit with some kind of penalty (falling off, floating controls, whatever) I think that would add to the game.

[Raven]

Originally posted by Crow:

That's because they admin forced tamed them to make the vid. Any admin forcetame can be ridden without a saddle. I really doubt they actually knocked out and tamed a direwolf to tour around and make a vid. :)

I am guessing that a saddle will most definately be needed.

lol you do realise how stupid that statement was dont you?

the devs spawned in a dino, forced tamed it, but then (even though they are the creators of this game and built it completely) they couldnt summon in the saddles? really? seriously? thats your chain of thought.....???

the fact that when they were showing off the other new dinos (frog & elk) they both had saddles on also didnt tip you off to how stupid your comment was?

sigh. oh the humanity...

[DeadJukez | TTV]

Originally posted by Crow:

That's because they admin forced tamed them to make the vid. Any admin forcetame can be ridden without a saddle. I really doubt they actually knocked out and tamed a direwolf to tour around and make a vid. :)

I am guessing that a saddle will most definately be needed.

They confirmed that the wolves would be rideable without a saddle

[Zevo]

Originally posted by Crow:

That's because they admin forced tamed them to make the vid. Any admin forcetame can be ridden without a saddle. I really doubt they actually knocked out and tamed a direwolf to tour around and make a vid. :)

I am guessing that a saddle will most definately be needed.

what did you think when you wrote this they are the creators and they could spend time taming it to see if theres any problems with taming like glitches and so or you cant craft the saddles so they would do it to fix bugs

[apophenia]

It's irrelevant anyway. a) if you ride a forcetamed creature that should normally have a saddle, your character floats above it's back and it looks weird, you'd see that in the vid. b) you *can* put a saddle on a forcetame, so if they forcetamed it to make the vid, they'd saddle it to get the full effect ;)
Makes me think that what you see there is what you get.

[RudyTheNinja]

Rip manta requires saddle

[Dradiin]

Originally posted by RudyTheNinja:

Rip manta requires saddle

Necro from 2015 ? Why ?