What is the assult rifle for?

[Knifey (Shooty)]

It seems to have similar range (okay maybe i'm better than avg with an xbow at range) and maybe 200% damage/minute in a real world scenario (not metal arrows). For me (and everybody else on my server) this is just too pathetic to even contemplate the HUGE cost of firing the darn thing. I expected at the very least that 1 bullet would be 80% dmg of a primative arrow fired from an xbow where it should be 120% to be (nerfed but) closer to reality. It's close to a hundred bullets to kill a bronto, maybe more. How many arrows... 20? I can not for the life of me work out what the devs are thinking... where is the incentive to get higher level tech?

[Myst?c]

its 20 arrows to tranq a bronto, unless you are using an ascendant xbow

[Knifey (Shooty)]

Originally posted by blade.blaster56745:

its 20 arrows to tranq a bronto, unless you are using an ascendant xbow

11 actually for a level 1 bronto, http://ark.gamepedia.com/Brontosaurus

edit: but my point is a primative arrow does more damage than a fabricated rifle bullet from a fabricated gun made with polymer and the site has computer chips. this is high end stuff... it makes no sense to me why it (currently is silly) to use an assult rifle if you have an xbow a hundred times quicker to make mats for and is comparible in every area. I mean... it doesn't even need a slight tweak, it needs to be two to three TIMES as powerful before anybody on my server would think of using it. Doesn't this scream broken?

[Greystar]

Fire Rate is higher on the Assualt rifle and as far as I know there is now movement slowing effect while reloading.

[JaviPapi]

As it is, there is no incentive to actually use the Assault Rifle, due to the nature of Ark.

The bullets simply cost too much. Far too much. A good pike, maybe a shotgun and a longneck rifle is really all you need. The Assault Rifle doesn't work in a game where wasting ammo is a very, very bad thing.

The only use i can see, I guess, is combined with other firearms in a tribe, it's a good way to pump out bullets quickly into large targets.

[Li Shengshun/Bk-201]

Originally posted by Mustachio Furioso:

As it is, there is no incentive to actually use the Assault Rifle, due to the nature of Ark.

The bullets simply cost too much. Far too much. A good pike, maybe a shotgun and a longneck rifle is really all you need. The Assault Rifle doesn't work in a game where wasting ammo is a very, very bad thing.

The only use i can see, I guess, is combined with other firearms in a tribe, it's a good way to pump out bullets quickly into large targets.

Good for shooting the Rider of his dino , even with bad aim a full mag will give you some hits on the player.

[4ndr34]

Very short reply: AR is good for PVP. About resource cost is a way to balance the game.

Longer and boring reply:
In reality and in some way it is reflected in game, all cold weapons do a lot of more damage, per shot, than firearms, explosives are an exception.
Strictly firearms, not explosives, are better in rate of fire, i.e.: damage per period of time, they need much less skill to be used effectively, but ingame this is irrelevant, they are really better in range, but also this is irrelevant in game where you in all "Epic" settings have a view distance ridiculously short, firearms are also better in standardization and logistics, two things that have been destroyed in game to try to balance the game itself with ridiculously high resource costs to build, repair and per ammo.
Explosives are really good but you have always to think about the ammo quantity that you are able to take with you.

[Shackled]

By the time you've placed an arrow, drawn it back, aimed it and fired it you could have used half a clip on your assault rifle easy.
The point is, it has a much much higher dps, and in many pvp situations that could mean the difference between losing your hard earned gear and not losing it.


e.g. a guy on a ptera is flying towards you and he is going to barrel roll you. Aiming an arrow at that is difficult and inefficient. Aiming your gun and firing will quickly dispose of the bird.

[Knifey (Shooty)]

Originally posted by Shackled:

By the time you've placed an arrow, drawn it back, aimed it and fired it you could have used half a clip on your assault rifle easy.
The point is, it has a much much higher dps, and in many pvp situations that could mean the difference between losing your hard earned gear and not losing it.


e.g. a guy on a ptera is flying towards you and he is going to barrel roll you. Aiming an arrow at that is difficult and inefficient. Aiming your gun and firing will quickly dispose of the bird.

what a crock, an arrow is probably already in an xbow so there is no reload time needed, whip it out and fire 1hit and it's dead. But what ever, I could care less about PVP. there is no need for anything in the game to only be viable in a server with a certain setting. Plus the example you gave, a shotgun would be a better option.

[Yoorshh]

Before this:

209.1:
Reduced Assault Rifle Per-Shot Durability cost by 50%

Firing an Assault Rifle was more than an excessive waste of resources. It still is, but not that bad. You gotta remember that the Advanced Riffle Bullet is also used for Auto Turrets. You cant nerf/buff the costs just cause the xbow seems to be the best "all situational weapon". There are situations where an AR fits in better.. and includes another play-style for those who like to pretend they are swats (me).

I ended up 1v1ing a lot with ARs, the big downside to me is the low damage against armor.

[OgGiUs]

Assaults rifle should be much more stronger.. they are really weak

[Flammy]

Assault rifle, like all firearms are only good for PVP, and even in PVP they are all useless against dinos except against birds.

The assault rifle is the best weapon in the game DPS wise, you can deal about 3 000 damage to an argentavis in 10 seconds using about 100 bullets. It's also very good in indoor fights because it's very good at short and medium range abd its easy to fire it and kite someone running at you with a pike at the same time.

Now it is expensive to use but there is a point where metal is basically a free ressource, gunpowder is a little bit more annoying to obtain because burning wood for charcoal takes a long time but it's still very easy to make so the bullets are not that expensive.

[JasonB]

Assault Rifle and Fabricated Pistol and Simple Pistol need a huge buff, they are even more pathetic than the ballista. Fortunately the rifle and shotguns seem ok against dinos.

[Yoth]

Try to get a mastercraft assault rifle. The difference in damage is HUGE!

They're pretty effective in medium range PvP. For short range you use a shotgun. For long range you use a longneck rifle. Additionally it does a lot more damage if you hit weakzones.

Against dinosaurs you usually use a longneck for headshots on weaker ones or a shotgun for the more beefy ones. If something takes more than 2 or 3 shots you use a spear.

Happy hunting!

[Knifey (Shooty)]

Originally posted by Flammy:

Assault rifle, like all firearms are only good for PVP, and even in PVP they are all useless against dinos except against birds.

The assault rifle is the best weapon in the game DPS wise, you can deal about 3 000 damage to an argentavis in 10 seconds using about 100 bullets. It's also very good in indoor fights because it's very good at short and medium range abd its easy to fire it and kite someone running at you with a pike at the same time.

Now it is expensive to use but there is a point where metal is basically a free ressource, gunpowder is a little bit more annoying to obtain because burning wood for charcoal takes a long time but it's still very easy to make so the bullets are not that expensive.

lol metal is yes very easy to get, and spark powder/charcoal are probably even easier but more of a grind. the point is the grind is not worth it. hmmm 10 hours getting enough to kill a few dinos or 20 minutes to make the same damage in arrows. lol, just silly.

[Yoorshh]

A mastercraft one? LOL. Please, be realistic.