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Firestorm672 Sep 10, 2015 @ 2:19am
fertilizer vs. poop
so basically, what the titles says, i have been farming for a while and i have noticed that when i have poop instead of fertilizer it lasts ALOT longer then just pure fertilizer, idk if its just different crops take different amount of fertilizer each day or if its the size that effects it, but when i have just pure fertilizer(3 bags) vs like 5 large poops, the poops last alot longer. Is this happening with anyone else or am i just crazy?
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Ciabatta_Roll Sep 10, 2015 @ 2:26am 
Fertilizer (either as a bag or as poop) has a set value that plants consume over time. Poop has both that as well as a spoil time when in a crop plot.Large poop is only worth 15k fertilizer points while full bags are worth 54k. The bags not lasting long could be because you were using partially consumed bags
Krid Sep 10, 2015 @ 2:29am 
Fertilizer has a value of 54,000.
Large feces has a value of 15,000.

Fertilizer is made with 3 feces (of ANY size) and 50 thatch. 3 large feces would be 45,000, so fertilizer gains you 9,000 (3,000 per poop)
So fertilizer only has a 20% gain over large feces.

Where it really shines is with smaller units. For example, human feces only has a value of 1,000, but since it still only takes 3 of them to make fertilizer it's a gain of 1700%
Mullahadin Sep 10, 2015 @ 2:29am 
That may not be the case: prolly, You gave Your plants fertilizer when they were still "growing". Once a plant reaches fruiting stage and You don't take crops right away - You will need A LOT lesa fertilization to sustain Your farm.
Zourin Sep 10, 2015 @ 2:34am 
Using poop in crop plots has other advantages. You can 'store' poop in crop plots while your bins are full and processing.

It's helpful, since I'd rather not have tons of poo-boxes laying around, or feel like I have to go out and deforest the Amazon to ensure there's enough thatch to process my herd dumpings all at once.
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Firestorm672 Sep 10, 2015 @ 2:37am 
ok, so basically, and example of what is happening is i have a longrass farm, it has a few large poops, medium and like 2 sacks fo fertilizer, a savroot plant has 1 half way consumed and 3 more fertilizer, and i have noticed that the savoroot seems to need more fertilizer replaced faster then longrass, i even made sure to check to see the amount, the only diffrence was mabye a few thousands(cant check atm since my server is down ><). This r both fully grown plants as well, so its not like they r just growing, idk if its mabye due to the order of the plcaement of fertilizer/poop(i always put poop first then fertilizer) or if its something else. mabye i am just seeing it, but i mean, i havent had to feed my longress ins a while, and my savroot has to be replaced daily
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Ciabatta_Roll Sep 10, 2015 @ 2:46am 
Originally posted by Firestorm672:
ok, so basically, and example of what is happening is i have a longrass farm, it has a few large poops, medium and like 2 sacks fo fertilizer, a savroot plant has 1 half way consumed and 3 more fertilizer, and i have noticed that the savoroot seems to need more fertilizer replaced faster then longrass, i even made sure to check to see the amount, the only diffrence was mabye a few thousands(cant check atm since my server is down ><). This r both fully grown plants as well, so its not like they r just growing, idk if its mabye due to the order of the plcaement of fertilizer/poop(i always put poop first then fertilizer) or if its something else. mabye i am just seeing it, but i mean, i havent had to feed my longress ins a while, and my savroot has to be replaced daily

Different crop plots consume fertilizer at different rates. Your comparison using longgrass and savoroot doesn't really work.

I mean, it takes plant species X a week to go through a bag of fertilizer, that one there if anything makes it superbly evident that plants consume fertilizer at different rates.
Firestorm672 Sep 10, 2015 @ 2:47am 
alright, that may be it, i was just wondering if it was just due to the different plants or if the poop, for some reason, is lasting longer then the fertilizer
shayne.oneill Sep 10, 2015 @ 2:49am 
Theres a trick with poop that isn't well known but it makes farming much much better. Get a phiomia with a big supply of berries in its guts, then put a couple of stacks of stimberries in its gut and remote use the whole 200 berries as fast as possible. At the end there will be a giant pile of poops piled up around the phiomia. (It looks *very* funny). Stack these into your fertilizer boxes and come back in a few hours. Plenty of fertilizer to go around Just be careful not to overdo it with the stimbewrries and starve the phiomia too much. A few hundred regular berries in its belly will stop it getting injured from starvation
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Firestorm672 Sep 10, 2015 @ 2:51am 
i did know that trick actually (thank u Sl1pg8r!) and it also seems to work on other dinos, granted, just need to make sure u have alot of food :P
Zourin Sep 10, 2015 @ 3:00am 
what? Tame a what? You mean THOSE things? You mean they have a use besides being a walking mass of bacon and tunics?
JaviPapi Sep 10, 2015 @ 3:08am 
They're very useful early game as pack beasts too! But.. Yeah.. mostly poop. I guess meat as well, when breeding becomes possible.
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Date Posted: Sep 10, 2015 @ 2:19am
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