Any Alpha OVERSEER Adcive?

[Senpaija]

I'm currently preparing for the Alpha Overseer fight and would like some tips or advice that could help. Simply googling it does help, but it does not give any specific information, which I hoped to get here.

Just for info, it's PvE, I'll be fighting along side other players/tribes (+5 hopefully), we got access to s+ tek devices like the mutator and I am currently breeding rexes, rhinos, allos, theriz, daedons, yutys and maaaaybe kentros, but it's unlikely they'll make the cut.

Any advice you can give regarding the tek cave door?
It has been equally chaotic trying to get so many dinos through that tiny gate and around the first corner, not to mention they like to run and slide, then run back right into my mount, facing the wrong way and getting me stuck, so other dinos cannot pass. Is there some way to stop them from running entirely? It's extremely annoying.

Which dinos are a good idea to bring?
I will only "bring" rexes if another player wishes to ride a rex, and unlike last time, I'll try to share rexes before the fight, switching the imprint with s+ mutator and giving an extra rex for potential mate boost, just to maximize damage resistance and output.

The actual dinos I'll be leading will mostly be theriz and allos, though I do wish to bring a daedon and a rhino. What should the stats of those dinos be? Is 30k too little on an allo? In the beta fight they had 20k hp and 100 armor saddles, half of which died, the rest badly hurt.
What about the daedon? What would an ideal amount of food be? If it has food in the inventory while healing, can it consume it fast enough to keep healing until there's no food left? I know kibble and cooked prime meat is best, but what's the best way of utilizing it?

I know the standard for rexes is 80k hp and like 2k melee, but is this really necessary or is it just to ensure the rex for sure will survive?

The previous overseer fights have not been great, can't lie about that, so I just hope to know a little more before this finale battle. Who knows, maybe I'll just get mauled by purlovias.

[Liralen]

Originalmente postado por Senpaija:

Originalmente postado por Liralen:

I don't get your point after that part.

My point..?

Um, yeah, exactly. If there wasn't one other than whining, that's cool. The dev's don't participate on Steam forums, and I as player, can do nothing to help you, other than try to answer questions you ask.

i.e., if time was not an issue for you, I don't understand what you were trying to say.

[Liralen]

Originalmente postado por Senpaija:

In the previous fights we are pretty much half way done with killing the overseer before the cave timer went to zero. Time is not really an issue I think and rushing will only get dinos into lava. As good as glider + shotgun may be, I find it to be extremely boring and brings me no fun or joy what so ever. It's a game and should be treated as so.

Which, for the record was this the above.

[krehen]

talking about the timer: dont stress yourself too much with it. the timer is for the tek cave and indicates only the time you have to pass the cave. when the timer runs out you can't teleport from the cave to the boss area. keep in mind the teleport in the cave takes one minute. so you have to activate the panel with at least one minute and one second remaining. when you arrive within this time frame the timer disappears without punishment and you you have all the time you need to kill the overseer. Syntac battled the overseer on foot in a over 1 hour fight. you just have to make sure you have the ammo, med brew and ... well the time and patience.

[Senpaija]

Originalmente postado por Liralen:

Originalmente postado por Senpaija:

My point..?

Um, yeah, exactly. If there wasn't one other than whining, that's cool. The dev's don't participate on Steam forums, and I as player, can do nothing to help you, other than try to answer questions you ask.

i.e., if time was not an issue for you, I don't understand what you were trying to say.

If you cannot help, feel the need to be rude, downright confusing and pointing out random things with no context or need to be discussed, then I got no choice than to consider your comment against the rules. Steam does in fact care about my weekly thread comment reports.

[Senpaija]

I don't have issues with the timer, I already know how the cave and boss work, because it's not my first overseer fight, so please drop the topic.

I want to know information about dinos, that's literally it.
I can get about 60k hp and 1k melee on my best possible rex, the recommended stats I see everywhere are so unrealistic... so what should I actually be going for, are the current stats enough? My rexes would probably be the minority of dinos in the fight, so idk.

I still want some kind of allo stat recommendation, 30k hp seems really low, but I'm struggling to get it much higher than that.

[shields83]

I did it yesterday with 20 at 45k health 1700 melee 170 saddles with yuty clearing cave so all allos full health for overseer Was a single player run but from what i seen bosses are no different to my sp settings. Allos were over half health after fight so the melee was pretty overkill. Whatever u use for alpha dragon will be enough for overseer. For info Yuty was bred with 20 health/mel/stam muts to lvl 441 fully leveled 100k health 2.2k melee so cleared cave pretty easy on its own

[Liralen]

Originalmente postado por Senpaija:

Originalmente postado por Liralen:

Um, yeah, exactly. If there wasn't one other than whining, that's cool. The dev's don't participate on Steam forums, and I as player, can do nothing to help you, other than try to answer questions you ask.

i.e., if time was not an issue for you, I don't understand what you were trying to say.

If you cannot help, feel the need to be rude, downright confusing and pointing out random things with no context or need to be discussed, then I got no choice than to consider your comment against the rules. Steam does in fact care about my weekly thread comment reports.

I'm not sure why me admitting that I didn't understand your point and asking for clarification is considered rude by you, but krehen's post adequately explains why I was confused, i.e., the post of yours that confused me is that you said you ran out of time, but yet that time wasn't an issue:

Originalmente postado por Senpaija:

In the previous fights we are pretty much half way done with killing the overseer before the cave timer went to zero. Time is not really an issue I think and rushing will only get dinos into lava. As good as glider + shotgun may be, I find it to be extremely boring and brings me no fun or joy what so ever. It's a game and should be treated as so.

[Liralen]

And yes, therizins are probably the answer (along with a few utility and ridden tank dinos), or some other agile, high dps dino, and constituted most of our damage. Ours were not mutated, but therizins have been my favorite dino since we first tamed one, and so I have tamed about 40 max level ones, then bred them. And yes, it's probably way past time for me to breed them for mutations, but I've been focused on breeding stegos and fixing my newb mistakes when I bred our rexes.

[Ebony Drakeling]

The only advice I can offer is: Git gud, use Beta as a sinkline to determine Alpha, for whatever the difference is in Beta will be about 1.5x harder, Realize that Alpha TEK Cave has 2 gigas, never ever get near the Dragon form when it arrives, pray that it doesn't construct itself onto you and you should be fine!

[Senpaija]

Originalmente postado por shields83:

I did it yesterday with 20 at 45k health 1700 melee 170 saddles with yuty clearing cave so all allos full health for overseer Was a single player run but from what i seen bosses are no different to my sp settings. Allos were over half health after fight so the melee was pretty overkill. Whatever u use for alpha dragon will be enough for overseer. For info Yuty was bred with 20 health/mel/stam muts to lvl 441 fully leveled 100k health 2.2k melee so cleared cave pretty easy on its own

100 armor saddles should be enough I guess? I'm not sure if the server would wait for me to get those kind of numbers on allos, but I would at least try anyways. My allos got close to 600% melee after full imprint, but the hp is only at like 12k, which isn't nearly enough, so I'll keep going.

I haven't actually killed beta or alpha dragon yet, custom saddle limit has really held me back from taking risks, I don't want to lose tons of rare saddles. Though it seems it will be changed soon, hopefully.

[Senpaija]

Originalmente postado por Ebony Drakeling:

The only advice I can offer is: Git gud, use Beta as a sinkline to determine Alpha, for whatever the difference is in Beta will be about 1.5x harder, Realize that Alpha TEK Cave has 2 gigas, never ever get near the Dragon form when it arrives, pray that it doesn't construct itself onto you and you should be fine!

The other time each tribe barely brought any dinos, the majority of the dinos in the beta fight were mine and we did not reach the max 20 dinos, even with otters included. It was also mainly only my dinos that were mutated.

I think if people don't show up with qualified dinos next time, I simply won't join the fight. They even consider it rude that I expect a little more than non mutated dinos with primitive saddles. Overseer is a ♥♥♥♥♥. The amount of hours I spend every day just to make a reasonable army for others to take advantage off, lol.

[Senpaija]

Originalmente postado por Liralen:

Originalmente postado por Senpaija:

If you cannot help, feel the need to be rude, downright confusing and pointing out random things with no context or need to be discussed, then I got no choice than to consider your comment against the rules. Steam does in fact care about my weekly thread comment reports.

I'm not sure why me admitting that I didn't understand your point and asking for clarification is considered rude by you, but krehen's post adequately explains why I was confused, i.e., the post of yours that confused me is that you said you ran out of time, but yet that time wasn't an issue:

Originalmente postado por Senpaija:

In the previous fights we are pretty much half way done with killing the overseer before the cave timer went to zero. Time is not really an issue I think and rushing will only get dinos into lava. As good as glider + shotgun may be, I find it to be extremely boring and brings me no fun or joy what so ever. It's a game and should be treated as so.

The door timer and the cave timer are two different things.

[Cobretti]

Originalmente postado por shields83:

Originalmente postado por Cobretti:

I did it solo (not singleplayer settings) and I cleared the tek cave with a couple mated Rexes then guided 10 zino through the cave for the boss which I manage with whistles while I fly around in a tek suit and shotgun. People do it without any dinos and I have seen people glider suit through the cave, not sure if that is still possible but would save you even more time. I think you flying around and using shotgun is the key to everything, I don't feel dinos bring much to this boss fight.

Single player no time limit makes alot of difference to play styles, Vanilla styled servers not open as clusters make things alot more difficult for instance no glide suits and no op shottys. With time limit u are pretty much on a once through with no turning back for bringing trains down bit at a time. Found at first hand on this server in question sp tactics are a no go, My advice smaller groups less hassle

That's exactly why I specifically said that I didn't do it on SP settings because I am aware it is much easier in SP. I did it solo on a MP server