ARK: Survival Evolved

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JasonB Nov 18, 2015 @ 2:53am
Catapult needs a buff!
Catapult deals only a meesly 700 damage to stone tier while the ballista deals 1200+ damage to stone tier (wiki). Why?

Shouldn't the ballista be an all round effective weapon: Good vs dinos and structure while the catapult being more effective against structures and perhaps less so than the ballista against dinos?

E.g. If the Ballista deals 1200 damage to both dinos and stone tier then perhaps Catapults could do something like 1800 damage to stone tier but only 600 damage to dinos. Something like that so they both have their uses. Right now there is ansolutely no reason to use a catapult. It sucks. Its hard to see where it shoots, you miss more than with the ballista, and it deals far less damage.

Right now the catapult sucks. You can tell because I've seen not one nerf post about it on the forums. It needs a buff!
Last edited by JasonB; Nov 18, 2015 @ 2:57am
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AlexDK Nov 18, 2015 @ 3:05am 
well Correction balista did 1200 damage to stone then got nerf twice dealing 800 i think
Jyandalf Nov 18, 2015 @ 3:06am 
I'm just holing out for the rocket launcher now. I may start stocking up on RPGs ahead of time
darknight9 Nov 18, 2015 @ 3:31am 
I haven't seen the catapult yet. What kind is it?
JasonB Nov 18, 2015 @ 5:16am 
Bump for buff. Otherwise might as well remove catapult from the game...
Red River Nov 18, 2015 @ 5:18am 
no way balista does 1200 damage. not in SP anyway. I remember trying to harpoon a shark with it and wound up wasting 18/20 rounds!
Leonhardt Nov 18, 2015 @ 5:19am 
Originally posted by darknight9:
I haven't seen the catapult yet. What kind is it?
Its a catapult.

You know, a giant spoon for flicking giant Coco Puffs.
Its a stationary turret like the Ballista

I do agree that it needs a buff.

But of course it's not as easy to aim, since it's intended as an indirect fire weapon.
Shoot ♥♥♥♥ over ♥♥♥♥ to hit ♥♥♥♥ on the other side of ♥♥♥♥
Last edited by Leonhardt; Nov 18, 2015 @ 5:19am
AlexDK Nov 18, 2015 @ 5:19am 
Originally posted by JasonB:
Bump for buff. Otherwise might as well remove catapult from the game...
They have decent damage and less cost than balista but i think they have more damage than balista not sure
700 damage on stone
Last edited by AlexDK; Nov 18, 2015 @ 5:20am
JasonB Nov 18, 2015 @ 5:21am 
Originally posted by Red River:
no way balista does 1200 damage. not in SP anyway. I remember trying to harpoon a shark with it and wound up wasting 18/20 rounds!

Not sure of the damage vs dinos, I just took the wiki damage for stone. I feel like the catapult should be a better option as it is a siege weapon and while so is the ballista, i think the ballista should be strong vs dinos.

I can't remember but I think I was able to spear Spinos down in about 6-8 shots with the ballista.
Jwsp Nov 18, 2015 @ 5:24am 
Originally posted by JasonB:
Right now the catapult sucks. You can tell because I've seen not one nerf post about it on the forums. It needs a buff!
If thats the case then a lot of things suck.......

dont forget that the ammo for the catapult is cheaper than from the ballista.

Also does somebody know the spawn id for the catapult and the boulder? i want to do some test with it to see or OP's numbers are correct
AlexDK Nov 18, 2015 @ 5:28am 
Jason lets see like this
like u told wiki
Ballista Bolt
Deals 1260 Damage to Stone Tier ( i am prety sure they nerf it damage)
Cost 14 × Metal Ingot 14 × Wood 20 × Thatch 5 × Flint 20 × Fiber 2 × Cementing

Boulder
Deals 700 Damage to Stone Tier
30 × Stone 3 × Metal Ingot

Now do ur mat and see if what u said of buff makes sense
Leonhardt Nov 18, 2015 @ 5:29am 
Originally posted by Jwsp:
Originally posted by JasonB:
Right now the catapult sucks. You can tell because I've seen not one nerf post about it on the forums. It needs a buff!
If thats the case then a lot of things suck.......

dont forget that the ammo for the catapult is cheaper than from the ballista.

Also does somebody know the spawn id for the catapult and the boulder? i want to do some test with it to see or OP's numbers are correct
Most new things don't get IDs until much later.
Just spawn in the materials for it and build it at a Smithy.
darknight9 Nov 18, 2015 @ 5:41am 
Originally posted by MLeonhardt:
Originally posted by darknight9:
I haven't seen the catapult yet. What kind is it?
Its a catapult.

You know, a giant spoon for flicking giant Coco Puffs.

So more Yard-a-pult than Trebuchet? Gotchya. Danke.

Red River Nov 18, 2015 @ 5:46am 
in the description it says that catapult is best vs stone structures. it doesn't say that for ballista.
I think they should give the ballista bolt AP bonus to deal more damage to dinos but less to stone.
also, they should have nerfed it for primitive only. just like they did with gigano...
Last edited by Red River; Nov 18, 2015 @ 5:48am
Leonhardt Nov 18, 2015 @ 5:59am 
Originally posted by Red River:
in the description it says that catapult is best vs stone structures. it doesn't say that for ballista.
I think they should give the ballista bolt AP bonus to deal more damage to dinos but less to stone.
also, they should have nerfed it for primitive only. just like they did with gigano...
Armor piercing wouldn't actually make it hurt Dino's more.

They'd need to be impact fragment type things in order to really ♥♥♥♥ their ♥♥♥♥ up.
Rezonus Nov 18, 2015 @ 6:04am 
Originally posted by darknight9:
I haven't seen the catapult yet. What kind is it?
they literally took the ballista and replaced its ammunition with rocks.
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Date Posted: Nov 18, 2015 @ 2:53am
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