ARK: Survival Evolved

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Ackilles 11 listopada 2015 o 7:55
Giganotosaurus, there is an easy way to tame it
This post is about the torpor while it unconscious as that is really the only difficult part about taming it. It is not about knocking it out

Update: The solution is quoted at the bottom of this post

So I went out with my alt last night and tamed two Giganotosaurus with ease. I had read so much about them since release I was expecting it to be difficult, much to my disappointment the opposite was true.

If you are using thousands of narcotics (which most posts claim to be doing) then YOU ARE DOING IT WRONG and do not understand game mechanics with regards to torpor. I'll update in an hour or two with the answer if no one gets it.


What I did:
Edit: Removed all of this since people seem to keep getting caught up in details that are not relevant.


Początkowo opublikowane przez Ackilles:
Puri got close!

So the giganoto loses thousands of torpor a minute, making the replenishment of that amount impossible, outside of shooting it repeatedly (which i would not advise doing personally). But only if that loss was static/permanent.

However, torpor loss is not consistent. When torpor is increasing, all torpor loss is halted entirely. Therefore to keep a giganoto unconscious you need to keep its torpor rising almost permanently. Such a feat would cost ungodly amounts of narcotics. However, narcotics and narcoberries have the same or similar application time I believe, meaning in this situation they are identical in functionality. I spent roughly 5 minutes farming berries on a bront, and had a few thousand leftover after i was done. Also, you can spam a few hundred berries into it and leave it for a bit, so long as it isn't close to reaching max torpor
Ostatnio edytowany przez: Ackilles; 11 listopada 2015 o 9:46
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Ackilles 11 listopada 2015 o 9:45 
Początkowo opublikowane przez Anodin:
Początkowo opublikowane przez ElgarL:
15 narc arrows to knock out is no way on official.
True and if adjustments were made to make knockout easier then it's also probably shorter tame time.

The entire point of this post just wooshed straight over your head. It is about keeping it unconscious and nothing else. I shouldnt have even included the knock out and I'm going to edit it out now.

Regardless of the knockout and tame time, keeping it under with narcotics is absurdly expensive
Anodin 11 listopada 2015 o 9:46 
Początkowo opublikowane przez Ackilles:
It is an unofficial server with a drop mod, as far as I'm aware there is no boost to knocking things out (is that even a setting)? It is more likely that i just don't remember how many arrows I used, it could have been anywhere from 15 to 50 (which equals 52 to 175 shots from a regular crossbow), it just felt really fast as I was waiting between 2-4 seconds between shots rather than 8-10 as I normally would.

Whether it counts as solo isn't really important, most of you have a friend that can carry you no? This post isn't about the method of knock out, we all already knew that was easy. The only difficult part from what I keep reading is keeping it unconscious
Adjusting damage adjusts torpor from tranq arrows since their is a direct correlation.
Shru 11 listopada 2015 o 9:49 
How to solo tame a giga.

1.have kibble
2. Have enough narcotics (ark crumplecorn taming calculator should give you an estimate on how muh you need for the lvl/torpor)
3. Lots of tranq arrows/darts
4. Fly over it with a quetz and knock it out from the platform
5.profit

It was just like every other tame besides the torpor drain and keeping a steady flow of narcotics in it. Didn't cost godly amounts of narcotics though. Let the torpor drain about 5k then pump 50-100 narcos in it and kick back and relax.

I guess the other downside is if you're not using kibble you need to hunt for prime in which case you can't solo tame it due to needing to keep the narcos flowing.

I play on official 335 pve and I've solo tamed everything, it just takes planning and preperation.
Ackilles 11 listopada 2015 o 9:50 
Początkowo opublikowane przez GamerPerfection:
I'm sorry but the fact you are using 2 computers, 2 Steam accounts, 2 copies of ARK completely negates the whole "easy way to tame" strategy.

This post is not about the knockout, which is the only part the alt was involved in. Thus your argument is in no way relevant to this post. Thanks

@Anodin: I don't believe it was increased, I just guessed at arrow numbers but could be way off. But again, not relevant
Ackilles 11 listopada 2015 o 9:51 
Początkowo opublikowane przez Shru:
How to solo tame a giga.
It was just like every other tame besides the torpor drain and keeping a steady flow of narcotics in it. Didn't cost godly amounts of narcotics though. Let the torpor drain about 5k then pump 50-100 narcos in it and kick back and relax.

I guess the other downside is if you're not using kibble you need to hunt for prime in which case you can't solo tame it due to needing to keep the narcos flowing.

The point here is that your 50-100 narcos do roughly the same as 50-100 narco berries in this situation. Narco berries increase torpor more slowly as well, meaning you can put remote use 500 at once and then come back in 15 minutes or so
GP 11 listopada 2015 o 9:51 
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Początkowo opublikowane przez GamerPerfection:
I'm sorry but the fact you are using 2 computers, 2 Steam accounts, 2 copies of ARK completely negates the whole "easy way to tame" strategy.

This post is not about the knockout, which is the only part the alt was involved in. Thus your argument is in no way relevant to this post. Thanks
It is relevant because clearly the knockout is part of the taming process. You can't tame it without knocking it out. If you remove the knockout part then you'll just get people asking you how you did that bit and we're back to square one.
Shru 11 listopada 2015 o 9:57 
Początkowo opublikowane przez Ackilles:
Początkowo opublikowane przez Shru:
How to solo tame a giga.
It was just like every other tame besides the torpor drain and keeping a steady flow of narcotics in it. Didn't cost godly amounts of narcotics though. Let the torpor drain about 5k then pump 50-100 narcos in it and kick back and relax.

I guess the other downside is if you're not using kibble you need to hunt for prime in which case you can't solo tame it due to needing to keep the narcos flowing.

The point here is that your 50-100 narcos do roughly the same as 50-100 narco berries in this situation. Narco berries increase torpor more slowly as well, meaning you can put remote use 500 at once and then come back in 15 minutes or so
I guess, I'm not really into prime taming though so I wouldn't need to leave. Also, narcotics are easy to make by the 1000's and a kibble tamed 120 giga only needs about 1500 narcotics.

I'm assuming most people who enjoy solo taming also tame strictly with kibble.
Deadman 11 listopada 2015 o 9:59 
Wait so how is this different than what most people do? The suggestion is just to keep the torpor rising....well yeah and you do that with freaking narcoberries so what's your point?
Shru 11 listopada 2015 o 10:02 
Początkowo opublikowane przez Deadman:
Wait so how is this different than what most people do? The suggestion is just to keep the torpor rising....well yeah and you do that with freaking narcoberries so what's your point?
Thats what I'm trying to figure out. I personally do not keep 1000's of narco berries on hand when a giga decides to show up. I do, on the other hand, have narcotics on hand always because they don't expire. I feel like the narco berry idea is great in theory but in reality it's not a very wise choice unless you have a fridge constantly full with narco berries.
Ackilles 11 listopada 2015 o 10:03 
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Początkowo opublikowane przez Ackilles:

This post is not about the knockout, which is the only part the alt was involved in. Thus your argument is in no way relevant to this post. Thanks
It is relevant because clearly the knockout is part of the taming process. You can't tame it without knocking it out. If you remove the knockout part then you'll just get people asking you how you did that bit and we're back to square one.
If you are on a quetz or carried by a friend you can sit there and shoot it with arrows indefinitely anyways. It is just faster with a high end crossbow-not more difficult. Yes you could argue that it isn't more difficult, just faster to farm 3k narco berries vs 3k narcotics.

But here is the reality, the effects of narcoberries and narcotics on torpor are the same between servers. You can stick with the 3k narcotics if you can't handle the fact that unrelated things are different, I'm not stopping you.
Anodin 11 listopada 2015 o 10:04 
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True and if adjustments were made to make knockout easier then it's also probably shorter tame time.

The entire point of this post just wooshed straight over your head. It is about keeping it unconscious and nothing else. I shouldnt have even included the knock out and I'm going to edit it out now.

Regardless of the knockout and tame time, keeping it under with narcotics is absurdly expensive

It was not lost. It is just obvious that settings on your server have been changed to make things easier. With that, what you experienced with narcotic requirements could be affected.
Ackilles 11 listopada 2015 o 10:04 
Początkowo opublikowane przez Deadman:
Wait so how is this different than what most people do? The suggestion is just to keep the torpor rising....well yeah and you do that with freaking narcoberries so what's your point?
Because you can farm 3k narcoberries faster than 15k for the same effect with narcotics?
Deadman 11 listopada 2015 o 10:05 
Początkowo opublikowane przez Shru:
Początkowo opublikowane przez Deadman:
Wait so how is this different than what most people do? The suggestion is just to keep the torpor rising....well yeah and you do that with freaking narcoberries so what's your point?
Thats what I'm trying to figure out. I personally do not keep 1000's of narco berries on hand when a giga decides to show up. I do, on the other hand, have narcotics on hand always because they don't expire. I feel like the narco berry idea is great in theory but in reality it's not a very wise choice unless you have a fridge constantly full with narco berries.

Just build a farm and plant them, don't take them out unitl you're ready to use them. The crop plot has a longer expire time than the fridge does (like 15 hrs per berry) plus it just grows more. I use this all the time, I can have 20-30 stacks of narcoberries everyday if I need them.
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Deadman 11 listopada 2015 o 10:11 
Początkowo opublikowane przez Ackilles:
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Wait so how is this different than what most people do? The suggestion is just to keep the torpor rising....well yeah and you do that with freaking narcoberries so what's your point?
Because you can farm 3k narcoberries faster than 15k for the same effect with narcotics?

Well if you're actually using the item narcotics to tame stuff then yeah you're doing it wrong lol. Narcotics are only marginally better than berries, not worth the extra resources to craft them, I always use berries for taming.
Ackilles 11 listopada 2015 o 11:39 
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Because you can farm 3k narcoberries faster than 15k for the same effect with narcotics?

Well if you're actually using the item narcotics to tame stuff then yeah you're doing it wrong lol. Narcotics are only marginally better than berries, not worth the extra resources to craft them, I always use berries for taming.

Aye, I'll keep a few stacks of narcotics around just incase I need to get somewhere in a hurry. The benefit of using the berry over narcotics scales quite insanely with increasing torpor consumption! Need to tame a new bronto after that last raid hah
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