Yutyrannus vs Siats Meekerorum

[Bojack]

what would you prefer to be the apex or therapod of the snow biome?

[Bojack]

Publicado originalmente por BaconFlavorD:

Publicado originalmente por Kirito:

The game is branded as a Dinosaur survival FPS. What is the geenral type of dino most people think of? Theropods. The simple fact we have 21 synapsids and 23 Dinos is a load of ♥♥♥♥. There should be more dinos, and not even be comparable to the ammount of mammals, most of which are a slightly larger version of a nromals pecies. After all, in the dossier we have no real size showing the Bear, it could be killed by either. They just made it OP as fanservice.

I Love Yutyrannus, but Siats could fill the role equally well. I am ok with either, so long as a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ bear is not apex.

It's not branded as a dinosaur FPS. It's branded as a sci-fi game with many prehistoric creatures. The developers have stated many times before this isn't just a dinosaur game. Why would you not want something like the dire bear to be the apex predator of the snow biome. Both the siats and the yut would be exactly the same as the Rex except for maybe the model, plus the Rex would probably still be stronger than either. I'm not objecting to having another cool theropod in the game, but just give the other creatures a chance. We have a safe amount of therapods, I don't think we need anymore

im not against the dire bear being the apex of the snow biome it would be pretty cool if it was the stongest thing there, to be honest im just tired of seing rex's running around in a place where it doesnt look like they belong, but i still want to see a therapod in the snow biome

[[KR-X] Tarbtano]

I whipped up this size chart for comparison. Siats is in black, Yutyrannus in blue.

http://i.imgur.com/xicOfVq.png

PS: Still overjoyed we're getting a bear

[Aircraft Ace]

I vote in Siats! I think he's the coolest. xD

[Willis1013]

i think yut

[irondune]

Publicado originalmente por The Red Baron:

If we HAVE to have a snowy apex dino, Siats is the best bet as its already the right size and looks much more unique than Yutyrannus (who's body plan is pretty much a scaled down Tyrannosaurus with a thinner build, full feather covering assuming T.rex didn't have one, and slightly larger arms with a third finger). Siats by comparison was much larger and had a very different skull and arm set up.

Using Yutyrannus over Siats logically would be like saying "Hmmm we need a cold weather replacement for a lion, let's ignore the siberian tiger and used a hugely scaled up lynx."


Really though, I'd prefer we just remove the dinosaurs entirely from the tundra region and let it be ice age Plesitocene.

Red Baron: all false.

yutyrannus is not a scaled down rex, in fact, it looks much more different from the rex or giga than the Siats

and, Siats didnt live in the snow...

[irondune]

chosing Siats as snow apex just makes 0 sense, because it lived in regions that had barely snow in it

[[KR-X] Tarbtano]

Publicado originalmente por irondune:

Publicado originalmente por The Red Baron:

If we HAVE to have a snowy apex dino, Siats is the best bet as its already the right size and looks much more unique than Yutyrannus (who's body plan is pretty much a scaled down Tyrannosaurus with a thinner build, full feather covering assuming T.rex didn't have one, and slightly larger arms with a third finger). Siats by comparison was much larger and had a very different skull and arm set up.

Using Yutyrannus over Siats logically would be like saying "Hmmm we need a cold weather replacement for a lion, let's ignore the siberian tiger and used a hugely scaled up lynx."


Really though, I'd prefer we just remove the dinosaurs entirely from the tundra region and let it be ice age Plesitocene.

Red Baron: all false.

yutyrannus is not a scaled down rex, in fact, it looks much more different from the rex or giga than the Siats

and, Siats didnt live in the snow...

Actually yes, yes it did. The Siats fossil along with similar finds up in Montana show the Utah fossils were only on the southern tip of the range at most. Siats was like the Brown Bear or Pleistocene lion of its day, living in a wide variety of enviroments. Some of which would have included extremely cold climates. Even the Utah climate at the time was much colder than it is now due to the presence of conifer fossils typically found in cold weather. The Utah Siats population probably lived in a climate similar to modern say North Dakota, which means it DID live in places it snowed quite a lot.

As for Yutyrannus' body plan. Same indicative square shaped head, same tooth length variation, similar limb preportions with a bit longer arms. I could look at it for a few seconds and tell it was a Tyrannosaurid. Siats however had a very different looking head, much larger arms, and had a body plan one would not expect of a Tyrannosaurid. Yutyrannus was a part of the lineage tha lead into Tyrannosaurus rex, Siats was a Megaraptorid that branched off the Tyrannosaurid line and went a completely different route.

You can't get much more different of a relative if trained paleontologists mistook Megaraptorids for Carnosaurs for several decades, the true relation only coming to light when Megaraptorians starts popping up in places Carnosaurs didn't live in and someone noticed a few very un-Carnosaur-like traits in the limb joints and internals of the skull.


And the final nail in the coffin for me of having Yutyrannus in as you'd want is is you'd insist it be the apex predator. Yutyrannus could work in Ark, as a Carnotaurus equivilent. We're talking an animal that weighed A ton at the abosolute most, meaning it was lighter than the upcoming Arctodus and signficiantly lighter than the Mammoth. Siats by comparison was 4 tons at the absolute minimum.

[Tyrannogon]

I vote Yutyrannus.

[irondune]

Publicado originalmente por Boxer:

Direbear

Is food for yutyrannus

[irondune]

also, yutyrannus was just as heavy as bear, but had better killing tools

[[KR-X] Tarbtano]

Publicado originalmente por irondune:

also, yutyrannus was just as heavy as bear, but had better killing tools

Yutyrannus's current max weight estimate - 1,500lbs
Arctodus's current max weight estimate - 2,2500lbs
Arctotherium's current max weight estimate - 4,200lbs

These are DINOSAURS, ANIMALS not super invincible dragons. Creatures that came before or after them aren't automatically worse. A Fasolasuchus would probably whoop most theropod's tails save for the really big ones and an Andrewsarchus would maul a Yutyrannus to death.

[Jik]

Why should they add another Theropod? :/

[[KR-X] Tarbtano]

Publicado originalmente por Hyaena:

Why should they add another Theropod? :/

Because Irondude wouldn't shut up about how "infinately" better Yutyrannus was to the Arctodus, I shot down his arguements. When he brought up Yutyrannus would be an apex predator for snow biome dinosaurs, I proved him wrong by bringing up Siats. Arguements erupted, and now we got this thread.

[h-Skittles]

while we are at it who wants more flyers :)

[[KR-X] Tarbtano]

Publicado originalmente por skittles:

while we are at it who wants more flyers :)

Cool, what would you have in mind? We seem to have a lot of the general spots filled with the small pterosaurs, medium pterosaurs, large pterosaur, and big predatory bird.