ARK: Survival Evolved

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moozoo Dec 16, 2015 @ 9:41pm
Trikes favourite kibble being Carno
Having been wiped out and having to start over again, I think that trikes liking dodo kibble would make a lot more sense. How many people are going to setup a Carno egg farm to tame high level trikes? As it is, I'd rather make a Dilo egg farm and tame a high level anyklo which in many cases is better than a trike.
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Daggermoon Dec 16, 2015 @ 10:24pm 
i would have to agree on this, it doesn't really make sense on the order of how u get dinos... even sadles...
Dilo eggs would make more sense... by the time/level you get carno and carno eggs, you are most likely useing Stegos instead of trikes... and trikes become fairly obsolete, to be honest.
Last edited by Daggermoon; Dec 16, 2015 @ 10:25pm
Nomad Dec 16, 2015 @ 10:27pm 
Trikes arent really even that good if you ask me. Carno kibble isn't the easiest kibble to make either.
Obiwan Dec 16, 2015 @ 10:30pm 
you know this post has alot of common sense. I mean the trike is almost the goto sensible first pick, doubling as a powerful bodyguard, excellent pak mule, berry gathering which is a tremendous amount of tedium being reduced.

I think having the kibble for a trike be ANY dino around or below its "tier" would be alot wiser.

Becuase it doesn't make any sense to make it a kibble for a creature that ultimately by the time you are "there" is gonna make the trike somewhat obsolete - stego!
iDash Dec 16, 2015 @ 11:10pm 
Yea it should go for newbs...

Dodo Egg>Dolphin/Parasaur Egg>Phiomia/Carb/Kairuku>Trike>Ovira>Stego>Gigant/Doed>Ank>PARA>Megaloceros>Mammoth>

Dilo/Compy>Scorp>Raptors>Ptera/Megalodon>/Direwolf>Carno>Argent>Rex/Plesio>
GigaNo>MONO

I left a couple out, but U get the picture,
They need to redo the EGG order before release

Last edited by iDash; Dec 16, 2015 @ 11:15pm
moozoo Dec 17, 2015 @ 12:15am 
@Daggermoon
"Dilo eggs would make more sense.."

You use the berries from the trike to tame a bunch of dodo's
And then use the dodo kibble to upgrade your trike.
This gives high level trikes a purpose before they become obsoleted by other dinos further along.

@ iDash
Mostly I'm happy with the kibble sequence.
With the exception that a bunch of big dino's shouldn't be needed to tame a small dino. e.g. Having to have a bunch of bronto's to tame sabertooths.
i.e. I want sabertooths, but don't want to have to build a large dino enclosure for lots of brontos.

Dodo -> Ichthy (dolphin) is actually pretty important as it encourages new players to explore the ocean.
Dodo -> Ptera is pretty important since it helps high level player recover after a complete wipe. Ptera's giving access to metal on mountains to rebuild and to pick up dilos for taming.

Nomad Dec 17, 2015 @ 9:04am 
Wait I take what I said about trikes being very mediocre back. At least trikes are better than raptors are. What a dissapointment they are.
Zeta1127 Dec 17, 2015 @ 9:09am 
I am more concerned about Parasaurolophus not having Kibble than I am about Triceratops preferring Carnotaurus Kibble. Compsognathus should be the Kibble for Parasaurolophus. Herbivores getting a Prime Meat equivalent will go a long way toward mitigating these concerns.
Steel Panther Dec 17, 2015 @ 9:43am 
Getting a trike is basicly then starting point of being able go explore and such with some safety. Dodo's Para's and dilo's and such make far more sense then a car no because as it has been said, carno completely makes the time obsolete short of just plain liking them.
Aphotep Dec 17, 2015 @ 9:57am 
I kind of dont like the whole idea of the kibble chain, especially it being based around the eggs.
I accept that the tiered system helps with the progression, especially for new players.
But using the eggs as the ingredient that determines what you can tame with it leads to everyone building a huge egg farm and wasting time taming things he doesen't even want for anything besides the eggs.

I'd love it if they gave each creature a (semi)exclusive ability to harvest a special ingredient that's used for the preferred food of another creature (Phiomea finding truffles sounds like a no brainer to me, these could be used for taming Doeds and/Ankylos for example).
You'd need way less creatures for farming the ingredients ina reasonable time, the farming would actually be actively looking for them (well, auto-collecting could work, but maybe less effective than Doed collecting stone and Apes collecting fiber) instead oif waiting for them to drop eggs.
With a far bigger pool of creatures you can use as intermediate stages (basically everything that doesen't drop eggs is a dead end at the moment), the whole thing could maybe even be set up as a net of sorts instead of two to three linear chains with one or two steps branches goeing off from time to time.
war4peace Dec 17, 2015 @ 10:00am 
Originally posted by iDash:
Yea it should go for newbs...

Dodo Egg>Dolphin/Parasaur Egg>Phiomia/Carb/Kairuku>Trike>Ovira>Stego>Gigant/Doed>Ank>PARA>Megaloceros>Mammoth>

Dilo/Compy>Scorp>Raptors>Ptera/Megalodon>/Direwolf>Carno>Argent>Rex/Plesio>
GigaNo>MONO

I left a couple out, but U get the picture,
They need to redo the EGG order before release

I'd be really interested in seeing just ONE Megaloceros egg. That would be awesome. Tell me again, how would a mammal lay eggs?
Chop Dec 17, 2015 @ 10:06am 
I'll have to agree with op. in all honesty most starters should just look for the lowest level things. a lvl 8 trike takes like 45 minutes on mejos so it's not terrible. and by the time I had carnos, I was using my bronto for for berries lol
Zen00 Dec 17, 2015 @ 10:06am 
Originally posted by Aphotep:
I kind of dont like the whole idea of the kibble chain, especially it being based around the eggs.
I accept that the tiered system helps with the progression, especially for new players.
But using the eggs as the ingredient that determines what you can tame with it leads to everyone building a huge egg farm and wasting time taming things he doesen't even want for anything besides the eggs.

The answer is simple, speed up egg production by individual animals so we don't have to go through the rigamorole of building giant lag inducing FPS breaking egg farms.

Though your idea for each animal harvesting items for the next tier is good too.

A hybrid system might be the best final option, with animals that can harvest (such as mammoth) finding materials for another kibble, and animals that lay eggs fast (dodo for one, could also change other animals to lay faster) for other things.

Maybe material gathering gets kibble ingredients for herbivores, and eggs for carnivores.
Last edited by Zen00; Dec 17, 2015 @ 10:09am
Aphotep Dec 17, 2015 @ 1:43pm 
Originally posted by Zen00:
Originally posted by Aphotep:
I kind of dont like the whole idea of the kibble chain, especially it being based around the eggs.
I accept that the tiered system helps with the progression, especially for new players.
But using the eggs as the ingredient that determines what you can tame with it leads to everyone building a huge egg farm and wasting time taming things he doesen't even want for anything besides the eggs.

The answer is simple, speed up egg production by individual animals so we don't have to go through the rigamorole of building giant lag inducing FPS breaking egg farms.

Though your idea for each animal harvesting items for the next tier is good too.

A hybrid system might be the best final option, with animals that can harvest (such as mammoth) finding materials for another kibble, and animals that lay eggs fast (dodo for one, could also change other animals to lay faster) for other things.

Maybe material gathering gets kibble ingredients for herbivores, and eggs for carnivores.
We'll have to wait and see. I'd actualkly love it if (some) dinos would build nests and lay multiple eggs there, instead of pooping them out individually wherever they are, but that's something that needs proper AI to work. This could be balanced by only having some of them fertilized and maybe a lower chance for all the babies to survive when not given excessive care by players.
We'll also get Fish and Prime Fish someday, so this will probably mess with the system too.
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Date Posted: Dec 16, 2015 @ 9:41pm
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