Fan-Made Dossier: Brygmophyseter Astucieux: Most Useful Sea Creature

[Imperial Diet]

Common Name: Brygmo

Species: Brygmophyseter Astuciex

Time: Miocene

Diet: Carnivore

Tempermant: Fearsome

Wild:
Brygmophyseter Astucieux is one of the few animals able to withstand the subzero temperatures of the northern ocean. Growing only to about 7m long, they prowl the waters in pods from 5 to 12. Brygmos are most likely the smartest animals on the island, only being rivaled by Gigantopithicus and, of course, us. They have been seen using cunning strategies to hunt their favored prey, Kairuku. They usually wait below the surface for a group of Kairuku to wander too close to the edge of a glacier. Then, protected by their thick blubber, ram into the ice shelf, causing it to collapse. The then eat the unfortunate Kairuku that try to escape. They have also been known to use a strategy use by Orcas, splashing massive waves onto an iceberg to try to sweep the Kairuku off. Their diet isn't only limited to Kairuku, however. They have developed the ability to use echolocation to hunt the many ocean life in the water. Once their prey is found, they send powerful beams of sound to stun or even kill it. They then go in for the feast. They have been seen hunting Megalodon this way. They have also been known to capsize rafts and eat the people and animals onboard if hungry enough.

Domesticated:
Taming Brygmos are exceptionally hard, due to their thick blubber being hard to penetrate. If you manage to down one, it's pod will protect it with their life. Contrary to popular belief, taming one Brygmo will not cause the rest to follow. If tamed, the rest of the pod will actually try to kill it, due to them actually feeling betrayed. Once tamed, a Brygmo will be one of the best war and hunting mount. Being able to find and stun/kill prey with echolocation, they make an excellent mount for hunting. Also being able to stun/kill people and mounts in the water make it a well-rounded battle mount. While one is formidable, a pod is unstoppable. They can be trained to use different hunting techniques with a pod. People claim to have developed a tecnique fit for hunting Megalodons!

Author's Notes:
Brygmophyseter would be limited to the northern waters unless tamed. They would have medium health, medium speed, high stamina, and medium damage. If 3 or more Bygmos are tamed together, they would have a "pod boost", wich allows them to be trained for hunting techniques. Also, the more Brygos you have, the bigger animals you can stun/kill with echolocation. When using echolocation on a Brygmo, the terrain would appear in a reddish haze, and animals in green. This would be used for avoiding aniamls, navigating terrain, and spotting enemies. When attacking people with echolocation, they could be stunned/die if a hit head-on, along with their mount if it is small enough. I know people with say they are OP, but you shouldn't be able to go in with any old water animal and slaughter an entire pod. Hope this would be considered to fit the dangers of the north! (P.S, echolocation can't map or stun animals/terrain on land)

~Fuzzy Wombat

[Why Watt]

we got a nice french name here!!!!!!!!! have not read the dossier yet, just gonna read it

[Imperial Diet]

Originally posted by Kirito:

we got a nice french name here!!!!!!!!! have not read the dossier yet, just gonna read it

lel, I just chose the most unique french translation and stuck with it

[NotDylan7055]

Originally posted by Kirito:

we got a nice french name here!!!!!!!!! have not read the dossier yet, just gonna read it

Belive me, it rox

[Why Watt]

Wow dis is real nice. This is literally a hybrid of the one seen in Jurassic Fight Club and a modern Orca. I love how the pod boost does not boost damage but makes 'em more strategic. Though, as taming a groups seems like it would already be a real challenge, maybe make their blubber not resist tranq arrows? A part that, freaking amazing. I had fprgot their name as it was never mentioned in Jurassic Fight Club.

[Imperial Diet]

Originally posted by Kirito:

Wow dis is real nice. This is literally a hybrid of the one seen in Jurassic Fight Club and a modern Orca. I love how the pod boost does not boost damage but makes 'em more strategic. Though, as taming a groups seems like it would already be a real challenge, maybe make their blubber not resist tranq arrows? A part that, freaking amazing. I had fprgot their name as it was never mentioned in Jurassic Fight Club.

In the dossier, I said that their blubber is thick, but I never said it could resist tranq arrows XD I meant that the tranq arrows wouldn't do as much torpor (maybe 20% reduction?) and also some damage, like 10%

[Imperial Diet]

bump

[Aehrias]

The main problem I see is killing people and animals with sonar. There is no way this wouldn't be abused, and there is no way to stop it, also, it's pretty small compared to a sperm whale. Stunning is fine, but has to depend on the size of the prey.
And if they can get on rafts, there should be a way to be safe. Maybe a sonar apparatus to drive them away? Installing a sound system on a raft could protect you against them. This would actually be an interesting use of instruments... Even if it doesn't keep them away if they're desparate, they'd try to avoid you whenever possible. And their attacks would be less organized, since their orientation and communication would be disturbed.
Their strength becomes their weakness.
Or simply add spikes to the sides and bottom of the raft, combined with loose barbed wire and polymer nets. >:D

[Imperial Diet]

Originally posted by Aehrias:

The main problem I see is killing people and animals with sonar. There is no way this wouldn't be abused, and there is no way to stop it, also, it's pretty small compared to a sperm whale. Stunning is fine, but has to depend on the size of the prey.
And if they can get on rafts, there should be a way to be safe. Maybe a sonar apparatus to drive them away? Installing a sound system on a raft could protect you against them. This would actually be an interesting use of instruments... Even if it doesn't keep them away if they're desparate, they'd try to avoid you whenever possible. And their attacks would be less organized, since their orientation and communication would be disturbed.
Their strength becomes their weakness.
Or simply add spikes to the sides and bottom of the raft, combined with loose barbed wire and polymer nets. >:D

Sonar is one of the most lethal weapons whales and dolphins have, being able to track and stun/kill smaller creatures. A lone Brygmo could only stun/kill coel and Megapiranha. A pod, however, could stun/kill animals up to a megalodon. Plus they are extremely hard to tranq, making them somewhat balanced. A brygmo pod would only attack rafts if hungry or provoked, so giving them a wide birth is the smart thing to do. I don't want another animal that would be too easy to attack/tame. If you went up to a Tyrannosaurus irl with a raptor, flak armour, and a crossbow, it wouldn't be very "balanced" would it? Wild dinos need major AI/ability buffs, because as of right now they are barley even a threat.

[Aehrias]

It's fascinating that people seem to assume that other people don't know about things they just commented on (such as sperm whales using sounds to attack their prey... they even have special adaptations for that...) But remember, this is a game, not real life, and still an early whale. I don't care if the sonar deals damage, as long as it's not an overpowered one-hit-kill. But in my opinion it would be better to knock out or disorientate animals (as a status effect, like the blinding.) That way, the sonar attack would have a more tactical role, rather than being just a source of raw damage.
And the main purpose of the sonar is orientation; whales, especially dolphins, would have no use for their amazing intelligence and hunting skills if they could simply shred everything by focusing sounds through their melons. If they attack a large animal, they prefer more direct methods of killing, such as biting, drowning, or using certain weaknesses (some orcas hunt sharks by turning them upside-down. Some shark species will then stop moving, making them easy prey. And the orcas constantly create new hunting techniques...)

[Imperial Diet]

Originally posted by Aehrias:

It's fascinating that people seem to assume that other people don't know about things they just commented on (such as sperm whales using sounds to attack their prey... they even have special adaptations for that...) But remember, this is a game, not real life, and still an early whale. I don't care if the sonar deals damage, as long as it's not an overpowered one-hit-kill. But in my opinion it would be better to knock out or disorientate animals (as a status effect, like the blinding.) That way, the sonar attack would have a more tactical role, rather than being just a source of raw damage.
And the main purpose of the sonar is orientation; whales, especially dolphins, would have no use for their amazing intelligence and hunting skills if they could simply shred everything by focusing sounds through their melons. If they attack a large animal, they prefer more direct methods of killing, such as biting, drowning, or using certain weaknesses (some orcas hunt sharks by turning them upside-down. Some shark species will then stop moving, making them easy prey. And the orcas constantly create new hunting techniques...)

Lol, where did I say it was a MAIN weapon? I said it was one of the most lethal weapons, but not their main weapon. Your right on saying they attack by biting, drowing, and finding their weaknesses, but where did I say a lone animal attack bigger ones with sonar? I ment an entire POD of Brygmos, wich can end up being about 20 of them, to stun/kill a megalodon. That would take alot of taming aswell, and probably alot of deaths and lost loot/tames. They would most likely stun and attack, since you can't disable and animal for long periods of time, and only the biggest pods could kill a meg. Also, when you said it should be used as tactical, did you even read my notes on sonar? I said it could map underwater terrain and spot wild animals, thus making battle plans, avoiding dangerous animals, and navigating the terrain. On a positive note, it would be cool if you could put some kind of defense on the bottom of a raft, to ward of those pesky Megs, as you stated earlier.

[Aehrias]

I never claimed that you said that it was a MAIN weapon, and was refering to modern whales, not the bryg. And I didn't write anything about the echolocating, why should I? It's the most obvious use... The "tactical" part was a suggestion on the use in battle, to knock out animals underwater. I even called it 'sonar attack'.
Also, I'd like to know where you read/heard that the sonar is one of the whales' deadliest weapons.

[Imperial Diet]

Originally posted by Aehrias:

I never claimed that you said that it was a MAIN weapon, and was refering to modern whales, not the bryg. And I didn't write anything about the echolocating, why should I? It's the most obvious use... The "tactical" part was a suggestion on the use in battle, to knock out animals underwater. I even called it 'sonar attack'.
Also, I'd like to know where you read/heard that the sonar is one of the whales' deadliest weapons.Echolocation can in many ways be defined as "deadly". Echolocation can be deadly because it can gather extreme amounts of data from it's target, like some dolphins can tell our exact age and gender. It can also be used to determine what type of animal it is and how to deal with it, so that can be deadly. It can also be deadly because many aquatic animals, like whales and dolphins, can stun/kill small prey with echolocation, so it can, oncea again, be defined as deadly. Also, use your brain when you think of the tactical use of echolocation. It can detect animals and "map" terrain, correct? You can figure out the shape and complexity of the base without getting too close. You can figure out where they store their animals near the base. All of these can be tactical advantages when making battle plans for a raid on an underwater base.

[Aehrias]

I'm starting to believe that you are simply trying to make me give up. If that is the case, please stop, it's unconstructive.
And here some information, to there are no further misunderstandings:
I understood what you wrote.
You obviously did NOT, because you, once again, failed to understand that "sonar attack" refered to the use against other lifeforms. You know, disorienting or stunning them. The use of echolocation to collect information is NOT an attack.
If I buy a camera to take pictures of bugs, I am not attacking them. I am collecting information. If one of them suddenly lands on me and I squish it with my camera, I attacked it.
I know the precicion of echolocation, in one experiments the animals were able to recognize the material an object was made of. You explanation was unnecessary and insulting.
Also, why in the world would you believe that I don't understand the mapping&information collecting? I already told you that that was the most obvious use of the sonar, because that is what it is more or less used for in nature...

And to make clear what I've been trying to ask for the whole time:

Originally posted by Fuzzy Wombat:

many aquatic animals, like whales and dolphins, can stun/kill small prey with echolocation

Source? I only heard about sperm whales disorienting and stunning their prey.

But since you don't seem to want constructive criticism, it might be better if I simply returned the favor and started insulting you.

[Imperial Diet]

Originally posted by Aehrias:

I'm starting to believe that you are simply trying to make me give up. If that is the case, please stop, it's unconstructive.
And here some information, to there are no further misunderstandings:
I understood what you wrote.
You obviously did NOT, because you, once again, failed to understand that "sonar attack" refered to the use against other lifeforms. You know, disorienting or stunning them. The use of echolocation to collect information is NOT an attack.
If I buy a camera to take pictures of bugs, I am not attacking them. I am collecting information. If one of them suddenly lands on me and I squish it with my camera, I attacked it.
I know the precicion of echolocation, in one experiments the animals were able to recognize the material an object was made of. You explanation was unnecessary and insulting.
Also, why in the world would you believe that I don't understand the mapping&information collecting? I already told you that that was the most obvious use of the sonar, because that is what it is more or less used for in nature...

And to make clear what I've been trying to ask for the whole time:

Originally posted by Fuzzy Wombat:

many aquatic animals, like whales and dolphins, can stun/kill small prey with echolocation

Source? I only heard about sperm whales disorienting and stunning their prey.

But since you don't seem to want constructive criticism, it might be better if I simply returned the favor and started insulting you.

I never said that getting information on an animal is "attacking" it, so stop putting words in my mouth. Collecting information like age and gender can be very deadly, because the animal can pick out the younger ones and the gender that is weaker, like some animals the male is stronger than female, vice versa. Also, stop saying that I'm giving you false information about dolphins and whales using sonar, because first off, here is a link: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/1320601/Dolphins-use-sonic-booms-to-kill-prey.html
and secondly, you honestly are acting extremely pompous about your knowledge on echolocation, while I'm just stating what I know from research/prior knowledge. If this doesn't make you believe that I know what I'm saying, then let's just agree to disagree so I can get on with my life. Also

[Leonhardt]

You know this belongs in the suggestions forum, m8