Excuse me Devs, Mammals feed their young milk

[BlueMeanie]

Hi Devs :D

Love the game :D over 1000 hours here :P

Just thought i'd say, sitting in one place feeding a baby deer 5 berries at a time which it eats in 2 seconds is VERY tedious.. You don't have to make the game Tedious to be hard.. :P

Mammals drink milk in their infancy... And move to other foods in adolesence.

Perhaps babies should be kept in proximity to their mothers during infancy? Having a baby die in the time it takes to grab some berries in a chest and then having to wait another 28 hours to breed the mother again is just MEAN! You don't wana be MEAN do you? :P

Thanks guys :D

Madbeard

[SteelFire]

Unless you do the same for the dinos, making their parents care for them when young, then doing this for mammals would be unbalanced. Best case, they would need to introduce a 'milk' or 'baby formula' food that you would feed to baby mammals instead of berries, however that's really trivial and an uneccesary level of "realism".

[⭐Navigator]

I'm with you, baby mammals should totally drink milk, especially since we can't pause the incubation period like we can with eggs.

[Mike Rubik]

Breeding is just comically broken right now. It's night time in the UK so they probably pushed the patch out then went to bed. watch for a whole bunch of dev activity in about 4 hours from now.

Agree with you... it would make more sense to be putting extra food in the mother, it would be reasonable for it to be the same food as if you were taming a creature of whatever level the baby is. Same timing as if you were doing a tame on basic food - eg plain meat for a carnivore.

[SirCollin]

Originally posted by SteelFire:

Unless you do the same for the dinos, making their parents care for them when young, then doing this for mammals would be unbalanced. Best case, they would need to introduce a 'milk' or 'baby formula' food that you would feed to baby mammals instead of berries, however that's really trivial and an unnecessary level of "realism".

Except that during gestation, you cannot pause it like you can egg hatching. Giving us some extra time to realize that the baby was birthed isn't so bad.

[Never ending Nujabes]

I think breeding is waste of time tired 2 rex 1 pteradon 1 dimopthradon
dimopthradon died in like 20 sec .....
pteradon ate tons of mead for 0,1 % to load
Rexes just leaved them to die

I can tame a dozen of dinos while growing only one so screw this dumb even more time consuming ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥

[G3David]

From a design standpoint, you could just have the baby pull from the mother's food bar to simulate drinking milk until it has left the baby stage(or halfway through) and it has graduated to solid food, this would also justify the long time after gestation between mating, due to the mother taking care of the young. I pretty much imprinted on my dogs newborn puppies, but they still fed from mom until they could eat soggy puppy food

Should note, we adopted a mini schnauzer from pound, found out six weeks later she was pregnant, she had seven(7) puppies and 6 made it to adulthood(one stopped feeding, wouldn't even bottle feed) after 3 days, very sad, but still, little mini schnauzer had a litter, as dogs and cats do.

[leftharted]

+1

and then gotta feed the mother crazy amounts. risk mama dying if you don't pay attention.

[G3David]

Well, the mom should have self preservation, and wouldn't feed the offspring if it was starving, like say, below 10%

As far as offspring numbers go, we should look at how many current mammals along the same evolutionary chain have and adjust that accordingly, maybe have it really rare for phiomia and paracer to have twins but normal for dire wolfs and saber cats to have a litter of 5-9

Animals have offspring based on mortality rate of their young, birds, for example, lay lots of eggs at a time

[shayne.oneill]

Originally posted by G3David:

As far as offspring numbers go, we should look at how many current mammals along the same evolutionary chain have and adjust that accordingly, maybe have it really rare for phiomia and paracer to have twins but normal for dire wolfs and saber cats to have a litter of 5-9

Multiple births are oftenh an adaption to a predators life. Predation is a really good source of protein, but because its also violent, whatever benefits it gives adults work strongly against children. So they have 6-8 children, with the understanding only a few might survive the violence of life as a predator

[SteelFire]

Fine. I'm all for something like this... but... what's you're proposal for the rest of the critters then? You can't say that one set of babies is purely hands off for the early stages and the rest have to be hand fed for hours. Especially considering how powerful a pack of wolves or sabers can be. You can't just make it simple to breed up those and difficult to breed up their high level combat dino counterparts.

As to not being able to pause mammal gestation, I agree that's an issue. I would expect to see pausing egg incubation going away as well. It really needs to happen as that's more of a problem than the time between mating. Increasing the mating cooldown isn't going to stop the excessive egg laying and storage that's already happened and will continue since some have already bred up a bunch and increased herd size to the point that the cooldown doesn't matter. If the incubation can't be paused however, that entire problem gets much more manageable.

[G3David]

for the dinos, they had nests and multiple eggs in an egg laying session also

[RagDoll]

I want cheese....The Mammoth of all the cheese. Eh? Eh? oh not funny....*slinks away"

[Anodin]

Originally posted by leftharted:

+1

and then gotta feed the mother crazy amounts. risk mama dying if you don't pay attention.

Agree. It would be a good implementation if the risk was losing both mom and baby. The only way it should be implemented.

[Dinoman]

Originally posted by SteelFire:

Fine. I'm all for something like this... but... what's you're proposal for the rest of the critters then? You can't say that one set of babies is purely hands off for the early stages and the rest have to be hand fed for hours. Especially considering how powerful a pack of wolves or sabers can be. You can't just make it simple to breed up those and difficult to breed up their high level combat dino counterparts.

As to not being able to pause mammal gestation, I agree that's an issue. I would expect to see pausing egg incubation going away as well. It really needs to happen as that's more of a problem than the time between mating. Increasing the mating cooldown isn't going to stop the excessive egg laying and storage that's already happened and will continue since some have already bred up a bunch and increased herd size to the point that the cooldown doesn't matter. If the incubation can't be paused however, that entire problem gets much more manageable.

Well birds feed their young by regurgitating food. Dinosaurs and birds are related. I wouldn't see it as too implausble that dinosaurs regurgitated food for their young ones since the jaws and stomachs of the babies would be too weak to chew and digest food by themselves. Actually, I think it's the consensus among paleontologists that they did something like that.

So there you go.

Plus, people pause incubation because it may be late at night, they need to sleep for work and school, and once real life matters are out of the way they can just come back and take care of the baby when they have the time.

The mammals, you simply don't breed them until you're able to care for the babies. My dire wolf went through gestation a lot quicker than some of the eggs I breed incubate, even something as simple as a dimorphodon took about the same time. So I think the trade off is that they're faster and you don't need to worry about temperature, but you can't pause it and you have to commit as soon as the mating is done.