War drums? Sounds more like someone hammering a nail in the wall!

[Vandragorax]

Poor effort, really guys. These drums are crap. We need bass, we need a rumbling sound underneath.... and why on earth do you even want the players to be able to press keys to play them? Just have us mount it, and press left click to start the drums, and right click to stop them. And then have a preset awesome drum track playing while we cruise around....

Seriously disappointed.

Please see Asheron's Call 2 or Starbound for how to do MMO musical instruments well. Not this rubbish! Thanks.

[Vandragorax]

Please see Asheron's Call 2 or Starbound for how to do MMO musical instruments well. Not this rubbish! Thanks.

[Ultra Ego Vegeta]

The point of you playing the drums means you can create your own music with them.

I thought that much was obvious.

[Vandragorax]

Yes, but it's implemented so badly it makes me facepalm so hard... implement a cleaner more fun and enjoyable system that doesn't allow users to pick their own individual notes, because it sounds better and works better and doesn't result in this absolute mess of a "music" system.

[Ultra Ego Vegeta]

Автор сообщения: Vandragorax

Yes, but it's implemented so badly it makes me facepalm so hard... implement a cleaner more fun and enjoyable system that doesn't allow users to pick their own individual notes, because it sounds better and works better and doesn't result in this absolute mess of a "music" system.

I don't understand what you mean by "pick their own individual notes."

Could you elaborate?

[Vandragorax]

Do some googling on how Asheron's Call 2, and Starbound music both work. Basically each player picks an instrument from their inventory, then picks a music track from a list. They will proceed to play that instrument from that track of music. Each player can switch tracks mid-song to change how the music is sounding, but basically it's just a bunch of loops which all fit together and synchronise with the correct timing automatically.

It works FAR better than this ARK drums crap where we have to press buttons to play the notes. It just ends up sounding like a 3 year old got their first TOMY drum kit, even if you try desperately hard to stick to good timing. Not to mention that the overall sound is just atrociously bad.

Starbound music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NNmxvG1v-M

Ashron's Call 2 music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTGufd1dhMY

[Ultra Ego Vegeta]

Автор сообщения: Vandragorax

Do some googling on how Asheron's Call 2, and Starbound music both work. Basically each player picks an instrument from their inventory, then picks a music track from a list. They will proceed to play that instrument from that track of music. Each player can switch tracks mid-song to change how the music is sounding, but basically it's just a bunch of loops which all fit together and synchronise with the correct timing automatically.

It works FAR better than this ARK drums crap where we have to press buttons to play the notes. It just ends up sounding like a 3 year old got their first TOMY drum kit, even if you try desperately hard to stick to good timing. Not to mention that the overall sound is just atrociously bad.

Starbound music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NNmxvG1v-M

Ashron's Call 2 music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTGufd1dhMY

You're essentially asking the Dev's to "dumb down" and over-simplify instruments because you're having a problem playing them... like instruments.

Why is that a good idea?

[Vandragorax]

Come back to me when you can argue a point without trying some lame strawman like that. No? Didn't think so. What IS your point exactly? I am not trying to "dumb down" anything, or request over simplification, and I am not having any "Problem" playing them like instruments. I just find it tedious, obnoxious, and disappointing that the devs can't come up with a better implementation, and instead have to resort to a system that feels like it was made for a bunch of 5 year olds in a nursery school.

It should be:

- More fun / less dull
- Exciting
- Awesome playing instruments in a group without everyone having to know how to play an instrument in real life because quite honestly that argument of yours makes absolutely no sense whatsoever on a video game forum.

Now kindly stop posting in my thread with your stupid strawman arguments and come back when you know a thing or two about video games, and don't try to compare them with real life all the time.

[Northlander]

if you could custom make your own rythyms it'd be awesome. Like saving a painting on a flag, if you could make a rythym, loop it, and play it automatically each tribe could have it's own sound so you knew who was who without getting out a spyglass.

Unless somebody was trying to be sneaky of course!

[RollingTrojan]

AFAIK - A war drum is to sound a 'beat' to march into battle to, not to play ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ #RockSolo on

tl;dr - another child not happy

[Xpliciit]

They have LITERALLY just implemented them,

A) There will be more instruments in the future
B) This is Early Acess so there is plenty of time for them to refine such an instrument
C) You don't have to use/make them in the first place

[Quxudais]

Автор сообщения: Vandragorax

Poor effort, really guys. These drums are crap. We need bass, we need a rumbling sound underneath.... and why on earth do you even want the players to be able to press keys to play them? Just have us mount it, and press left click to start the drums, and right click to stop them. And then have a preset awesome drum track playing while we cruise around....

Seriously disappointed.

Please see Asheron's Call 2 or Starbound for how to do MMO musical instruments well. Not this rubbish! Thanks.

the best system for MMO music was and is LOTRO:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eD7LMsF1yHY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4QMtvk4ihg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=henpPIyaeiw

[Baby Jesus]

I have no problems pressing keys to make the drum play a sound.
My problem is how many drums are there? and we can play just 2?

[Vandragorax]

@Baby Jesus - you can play 5 of them.... use number keys 1-5 on your keyboard. They still all sound like crap.

@RollingTrojan - nobody is saying they want to play a rock solo... have you even tried making a beat on these war drums in-game? It's horrible... really horrible.

@Quxudais - that system is EXACTLY the same as the Aseron's Call 2 system (which did it first) just a bit newer and more sparkly. I agree that it's how music should be done in any multiplayer game and ARK would benefit hugely from something like this instead of a crappy war drum you can just make 5 dull sounding notes with manually.

@Xpliciit - I know, that's why I'm giving the feedback... I don't want them to think it's fine and all the rest of the instruments coming up will be the same turd. I'd rather they realise what we expect from such a feature like making our own music, and not just cobble together a bunch of random crap that makes it feel like we've bought some musical instruments from Toys'r'us and sat some toddlers down to bash a few sticks together.

Normally the updates for this game are pretty quality, but I feel very let down by this one. Whether they just rushed this one out and want to improve upon it, or their sound person has the flu and their ears are bunged up, I don't really know, but it needs to get improved seriously. I mean come on... they even posted a video of the Mad Max drums in the patch notes, and this in-game drum doesn't even sound close, it's literally like someone hammering a nail into the wall, not a bassy deep rumbling war drum....

[JonesN]

Well the hype video they had listed from Mad Max is a guy playing a guitar, maybe they are just really confused??? :/

[JasonB]

I was hoping the drums would sound a bit more bassy! But I really want horns!