108 quetzal died from tranqing. Bug or just me?

[axenation]

Just waste the past 2+ hours on a 108 quetzal :)

When I first spotted it, I didn't have my kibble or enough narcs on me so i ran to my other base to pick that stuff. When I came back it took over an hour to find it again, but whatever it's worth it.

After 27 darts fired from a 171% dmg long neck, and roughly 125 - 150 tranq arrows fired from a 191% dmg xbow the stupid thing died lol. All of these were fired over the course of an hour maybe slightly more.

Yes I wait 5+ seconds between shots.

Half of my shots were head shots, but the killing blow was not.

My method was to ride my low level quetzal and hop onto the platform and fire single darts / tranqs as it flies by. Most shots were fired from underneath the quetzal i was trying to tame so the shots hit in the underside of its head, the underside of the body, and sometimes the feet or tail. I might have put 3 or 4 shots into the side of the head as well.

So what did I do wrong? Did I wait too long between some of my shots? The most I would wait was 1 or 2 minutes to avoid having it fall into all of the carnovores spawned around the beach.

Or is this a bug with something doing dmg, but not torpor?





I don't really care about the wasted time, killing what I was trying to tame, and losing my 199 saber that was riding on my quetzal saddle ... I don't care at all about that stuff. I just want some incite on what I did wrong so I don't do it again.

[hullu hullu]

Crossbow, too high dmg.
Never try to knockout high lvl flyers with anything else than darts.
They tend to get ridicoulous amounts of torpor that easily outnumber any possible health value.
Thus and with the flyer-dmg bonus you kill it faster than anything, even with a crossbow.

On my server one knocked out a 120 Argent with 0.2 health left!!! (every other argent was fed while knocking out or died)
I sayd : Drop a berry on it and itll die xD

[Arya]

Yeah... don't shoot birds. Club them instead. Or just, y'know, use a scorpion.

[JaviPapi]

Basically, what happened is that many of your shots did NOT in fact hit. I tested this in singleplayer by spawning a trapped quetz (several, in fact), and shooting it point blank.

I did this after spending a retarded amount of time trying to bring one down, and wondered how high their torpor really was.

So, WHEN you dont hit a bunch of your tranqs, the quetz spends time recovering the lost torpor, but not the health to as big a degree, ending with you murdering the poor beast.

Darts are in no way, shape or form needed for knocking out a quetz. I have 3 and have brought them down the normal way. 2 high lvl and 1 low lvl, and all of them had nearly half hp when brought down. It's just about making sure each of your shots hit.

[axenation]

I have 1100 hours on ark and have only killed 2 argens with xbows while trying to knock them out.

Anyways, I used 27 darts to start off with before switching to tranq arrows which should make health (I'm assuming) a non-issue.

I knocked out a level 36 Quetzal last week using the same method that I tried with this one and by the time it finally passed out it had 1400 / 3000 health.

[Doperwt]

quetzals of 108 can have around 13k torpor. Maybe this one had a very low health stat ... Cant think of anything else, then. welcome to ark

[JaviPapi]

Originally posted by axenation:

I have 1100 hours on ark and have only killed 2 argens with xbows while trying to knock them out.

Anyways, I used 27 darts to start off with before switching to tranq arrows which should make health (I'm assuming) a non-issue.

I knocked out a level 36 Quetzal last week using the same method that I tried with this one and by the time it finally passed out it had 1400 / 3000 health.

You might also have been very unlucky, and gotten a bird with very high torpor and very low health. But yes, darts are not as necessary as people make them out to be. Anything can be brought down safely with a xbow and a spare bow just in case.

I have only once killed an argent accidentally, and I use a 200% xbow, then switch to a ramshackle regular bow if it looks like it's really low on health.

IF the bird dies anyway, it had crap stats anyways and wasn't worth the effort.

[axenation]

Originally posted by Mustachio Furioso:

Basically, what happened is that many of your shots did NOT in fact hit. I tested this in singleplayer by spawning a trapped quetz (several, in fact), and shooting it point blank.

I did this after spending a retarded amount of time trying to bring one down, and wondered how high their torpor really was.

So, WHEN you dont hit a bunch of your tranqs, the quetz spends time recovering the lost torpor, but not the health to as big a degree, ending with you murdering the poor beast.

Darts are in no way, shape or form needed for knocking out a quetz. I have 3 and have brought them down the normal way. 2 high lvl and 1 low lvl, and all of them had nearly half hp when brought down. It's just about making sure each of your shots hit.

This sounds about right. There was several times that I would hit the quetzal and i would see blood splatter, but it would not rush off like it normally does. I'm guessing this might be cused by lag / sync issues.

Also the entire beach was covered with carnos, trex, dilos, and even a few argens. I guess I shoudl have just killled them all off instead of waiting a little longer between some of the shots for the quetz to get to a safer position,.

Ps..
Thanks for info :)

[JaviPapi]

You're welcome!

they are tricky bastards. The same goes for the mosasaur (still havent brought one down) and plesio, unless using water caves. It's difficult making sure your shot connects. After I tamed the first quetzal, the second and third were easier. I fly underneath it, and shoot it in the head from there. If shooting down or to the side, you can hit your own quetz at times.

[axenation]

Originally posted by Mustachio Furioso:

You might also have been very unlucky, and gotten a bird with very high torpor and very low health. But yes, darts are not as necessary as people make them out to be. Anything can be brought down safely with a xbow and a spare bow just in case.

I have only once killed an argent accidentally, and I use a 200% xbow, then switch to a ramshackle regular bow if it looks like it's really low on health.

IF the bird dies anyway, it had crap stats anyways and wasn't worth the effort.

Yeah I usually run with mastercraft xbows between 180% - 200% dmg. It's kinda funny cause I always say the same thing about things that get killed while tranqing .. I just got a little irked because it was such a long process and I decided to not tame something else because I saw this one. I've been searching for 100+ one since the first day they came out after I tamed my level 12 one lol.

[DrathDragoon33]

In thebend, the bestvway to catch a quetz is to make a cage on a quetz you have already tamed. You can make a 4x4x3 cage out of thatch, with an open wall, and some ladders tp the top. You then drive in front of the wild quetzal and trap it.

Things to note. Use the brakes (x) to stop your quetz, you cannot move the cage quetz, as the wild one will clip through ( awake or alseep) and you cannot jump into the cage witj the quetz. Unless you don't plan on leaving until the tame is finished. You will likely it stuck in a wing, unable toove till you glotch through the floor and fall.

If I remember I will provide a pictire of my quetz cage tomorrow. I am just reading the forums before going to sleep.

[JasonB]

Having the saem problem with Mosasaurus. They have way too much Torpor vs HP and it needs a nerf.

[axenation]

Originally posted by DrathDragoon33:

If I remember I will provide a pictire of my quetz cage tomorrow. I am just reading the forums before going to sleep.

I tried making one but couldn't get it to work, so a pic would help im sure. Thanks :)

[Santas Helper]

torpor is based on their level, their hp is scaled based on random stat allocation, it is possible to have low hp and be high level, thus more torpor than hitpoints. tranq arrows hurt flyers 3x more than ground animals, but also torpor them 3x more. if you take longer than 5 seconds to shoot it and HIT, it is regaining torpor, but NOT the hp lost. in short, you cannot miss. this applies to dimorphodons as well, they have weird hitboxes. they flinch with each actual hit, so if it doesnt flinch, you didnt land the actual shot and need to hit it again asap. use a crossbow and arc the shot onto its back, this is much more effective at making sure the shot lands. i got my 12 down in 8 shots of a 181% crossbow, just like calc said it would take, 5sec between shots. i was riding on someone else's platform trailing behind it however, i was able to actually time the shots properly. high level ones really do take multiple people to take down, there is just too much torpor to solo it and not enough hitpoints.