Tranq Darts too expensive?

[elijahwan]

I've never complained about anything in this game so far--but after being very excited for the tranq darts--i am a bit disapointed with the cost.

lets break it down

3 Narcotics - this is fine and expected since they are supposed to be better than a tranq arrow...

3 metal ingots - ok sure--since a regular bullet for teh longneck is 2 ingots, i can see that.

AND

3 simple rifle ammo? -- this is what i don't get. as stated, a rifle bullet costs 2 ingots to make...but you get 2 in return. BUT to get 3 i gotta make a total of 4 so thats 4 ingots used just for the bullets....then 3 more.

so 7 ingots, plus the gunpowder (but thats easy) for a single dart.

that seems...a bit much when you are trying to build them en mass.


I vote for a similar approach as the arrows. We make normal arrows, then use the narcs to get tranq arrows. For tranq darts, we should just use normal ammo and add narcs to get tranq ammo. really just remove the 3 ingot cost and it would make a little more sense....

[Boots]

Have you even tried them to see how strong they are? If it only takes a couple to down something instead of 70 arrows then the cost is very worth it.

[Levanon]

Originally posted by Boots:

Have you even tried them to see how strong they are? If it only takes a couple to down something instead of 70 arrows then the cost is very worth it.

Theyre better, by a decent margin, but they also blow through weapon durability QUICKLY. A high end longneck is going to costs hundreds of ingots to repair.

[elijahwan]

Originally posted by Boots:

Have you even tried them to see how strong they are? If it only takes a couple to down something instead of 70 arrows then the cost is very worth it.

very true, and touche. just bummed cause i gotta do another big metal run since i used most of my metal in anticipation and made a bunch of ammunition on a hunch. meh bad on me for assuming i guess

[elijahwan]

Originally posted by Levanon:

Originally posted by Boots:

Have you even tried them to see how strong they are? If it only takes a couple to down something instead of 70 arrows then the cost is very worth it.

Theyre better, by a decent margin, but they also blow through weapon durability QUICKLY. A high end longneck is going to costs hundreds of ingots to repair.

honestly i was suprised they were for teh longneck too. way back when they devs said they would be for ethe new machined sniper...

[dragontamer156]

Originally posted by Boots:

Have you even tried them to see how strong they are? If it only takes a couple to down something instead of 70 arrows then the cost is very worth it.

^This, plus it is a late game engram so farming the mats are easy.

[Levanon]

Originally posted by elijahwan:

Originally posted by Levanon:

Theyre better, by a decent margin, but they also blow through weapon durability QUICKLY. A high end longneck is going to costs hundreds of ingots to repair.

honestly i was suprised they were for teh longneck too. way back when they devs said they would be for ethe new machined sniper...

The devs say a lot of things. Frankly, given how quickly they blow through durability, the fact that theyre ammo for the longneck is a blessing.

If youre interested in my (very rudimentary/shoddy) test results, I was getting about ~75 torpor from a 167% damage Jman Longneck, as opposed to ~66 torpor from a 180% damage MC Crossbow.

All testing done on a 225 rex.

[elijahwan]

Originally posted by Levanon:

If youre interested in my (very rudimentary/shoddy) test results, I was getting about ~75 torpor from a 167% damage Jman Longneck, as opposed to ~66 torpor from a 180% damage MC Crossbow.

All testing done on a 225 rex.

thats....terrible. i would have hoped (since its x3 the narcs) that the darts would be at least double what an arrow does....

was the rex tamed? did it have armor?

[Koldbones]

Originally posted by elijahwan:

Originally posted by Levanon:

Theyre better, by a decent margin, but they also blow through weapon durability QUICKLY. A high end longneck is going to costs hundreds of ingots to repair.

honestly i was suprised they were for teh longneck too. way back when they devs said they would be for ethe new machined sniper...

no too involved just for the longneck

http://arkforum.de/index.php/Attachment/2261-traqndart-jpg/

[Levanon]

Originally posted by elijahwan:

Originally posted by Levanon:

If youre interested in my (very rudimentary/shoddy) test results, I was getting about ~75 torpor from a 167% damage Jman Longneck, as opposed to ~66 torpor from a 180% damage MC Crossbow.

All testing done on a 225 rex.

thats....terrible. i would have hoped (since its x3 the narcs) that the darts would be at least double what an arrow does....

was the rex tamed? did it have armor?

Yes, should have mentioned the armor. Completely overlooked it, frankly. Tamed base 120 Rex, trained to 225, Apprentice Rex Saddle with 46.2 armor.

Without armor the crossbow did 189.9 torpor, while the longneck did.... 151.1. Looks like one of the primary features is armor piercing.

[Shion]

So, in short, junk for anything other than PvP. I must admit, I am very disappointed.

[Levanon]

Originally posted by Eldar Seer:

So, in short, junk for anything other than PvP. I must admit, I am very disappointed.

Keep in mind that the base damage on my crossbow is higher, too. The performance is still disappointing, however.

[zeshinizumi]

So in the end the x-bow is still better for taming purposes....with the darts being significantly more expensive than arrows, not to mention we occasionally get arrows back...darts nope.

[Quxudais]

Originally posted by Levanon:

Originally posted by elijahwan:

thats....terrible. i would have hoped (since its x3 the narcs) that the darts would be at least double what an arrow does....

was the rex tamed? did it have armor?

Yes, should have mentioned the armor. Completely overlooked it, frankly. Tamed base 120 Rex, trained to 225, Apprentice Rex Saddle with 46.2 armor.

Without armor the crossbow did 189.9 torpor, while the longneck did.... 151.1. Looks like one of the primary features is armor piercing.

Bleh.. if that's the case then it's probably going to be just another neat idea castrated for the sake of arks silly pvp.

[Caddy]

Not really. The fact that you can still run while reloading the rifle, vs not running when reloading the xbow .. Ow, and hit my 239 argent, with 25 armor saddle. 557 torpor and about 100 damage.

Id say this is good for birdhunting...

[zeshinizumi]

The not running has never been an issue for me while koing something for a tame.