Flying mounts....

[MrIkon]

Ok, Im probably not gonna get alot of people agreeing with me, but I guess I should say it still :P

I really think that flying mounts are killing the exploration part of the game. There I said it. Atleast in its current form.
You rarely need to touch the ground anymore with a flying mount. You can fly from one end of the map to the opposite in minutes. Surely it wasnt meant for that? if you have a fast ptera/arg you rarely need to be on the ground and there are very few spots you need to take pauses when flying to.

A few suggestions:
- less speed for fly mounts
- fly mounts use alot more stamina when being used
- fly mounts use more stamina the higher in air they are


Please note: Personally I really love using flying mounts, but Im noticing that Im getting bored of exploring, cause I dont need to use anything else than my fast flying pteradon.

[Strykewolf]

Hmmm?

Not that I've seen on our server.

Just about all of us have a variety of pets, we use what we need for what we are doing. I've already trekked most of the island on foot, on carno, on rex, and on spino. My general goto, now, is my argent...because much of the time I'm not exploring.

I'm flying up to get metal and other materials, I'm delivering things I make to folks and, pick up things folks make for me, I'm heading out to assist in rescues when folks get stuck, critters get stuck, or to provide overwatch/resupply for someone with a tame down far from their base, or to recover pets/gear because I can get to the bodies faster than they can.

And, when I feel like it, I jump on a rex, or whatever, and go for a walkabout. I do that even though I've already wandered the island countless times...am really looking forward to linked maps or, a larger world.

[Zortarg]

OP did bring up a lot good points. and its more or less the same as my opinion. i have seen many mmos and the introduction of flyers always kills a lot emersion in a game. yes its cool to fly around and yes it makes a lot things so much more easy.

BUT it takes away more then it gives. it kills the landsake, provides so many shortcuts ... ... and in this case also dominates the pvp and pve with argents.
Battlebirds dont care about beeing shot by longneck rifles because of their HP pool.
its borken in so may ways atm, but ballancing is still a thing to come. most likely next year.

still there is the point that flying takes away nearly any ground advantage. any walls any terrain. any traveling any hills or mountauns for scouting. it makes it all obsolete. believe it or not. 99% of all games are better without the ability to fly. and ark is not in that 1%.

[Myst?c]

auto turrets suck when you are flying till you learn where each base that has one is

[redbeaniez]

I agree 1000% The game is too small as it is. The add in flying mounts, and it's tiny. Not to mention it's WAY easier to raid a base with flying mounts.

[leefnmajors]

What the hell is this, WoW? Flying mounts are fine. They already nerfed the poor Argent into the ground.

[redbeaniez]

My argent doesn't feel nerfed. 3100 stamina and 20,000 hp.

[Myst?c]

Originally posted by redbeaniez:

My argent doesn't feel nerfed. 3100 stamina and 20,000 hp.

think about when it came to taming, takes 4x the damage, now that arg has the equivalaent of a 5k hp dino

[redbeaniez]

That's only from ranged damage. Player trexes just do regular damage.

[Myst?c]

Originally posted by redbeaniez:

That's only from ranged damage. Player trexes just do regular damage.

really, last i tested my pike on a dino and a bird, the bird took more damage, both had saddles
edit: primitive and not from blueprints, i know that can make a diffrence

[boulfre]

i kinda miss exploration with my first crappy raptor!

[Bobler]

Just ride a dino around to explore i did that today as i didnt want to just fly over the new biome your not being forced to explore with a bird

[Jackson]

Originally posted by redbeaniez:

I agree 1000% The game is too small as it is. The add in flying mounts, and it's tiny. Not to mention it's WAY easier to raid a base with flying mounts.

Yes. Once you get your first bird, the map becomes pretty small.

Lets not forget the render problem that makes it impossible for pedestrians and riders to hide. Thats my biggest concern, bcs it is a technical advantage to flyers. Flying you can see everyhing, bcs you are outside the loading distance, the pedestrian cant see anytthing bcs all the plants are rendered. That sucks. Different vision, based on the loading distance of trees and foliage, is just not acceptable in pvp.

[dyonisth]

My goodness ! "flying mount will kill the game, no more exploration..." this sentence i readed a lot of times by peoples on another game made by Bl.zz.rd

[MrIkon]

Ok, let me just say that I dont think flying mounts should be removed from the game and they certainly have a huge role in pvp.
Ive played on servers with lvl30 max wild dinos, lvl90 max lvl and on servers which gives dinos 100 lvls for leveling.
On either of these servers was there ever a problem creating a flying dino, which could fly from one part of the map to the opposite without rest and do it pretty darn fast.
A ptera with 200+ speed makes everything else pretty slow.

[MrIkon]

Originally posted by dyonisth:

My goodness ! "flying mount will kill the game, no more exploration..." this sentence i readed a lot of times by peoples on another game made by Bl.zz.rd

I didnt say "kill the game" I said "killing the exploration part of the game". I played wow too and flying mounts DID kill the exploration part of wow.