Locked vs. Pin Lock

[RabbitHeart]

Please explain to me what the purpose of having pin codes is if people can figure them out or use a cheat to decode them.

I really honestly want to know your opinions and what you find is the safest way to keep your items from getting stolen.

Is it safer to simply lock our doors and storage boxes OR is it safer to lock AND use pin codes?

Inquiring minds want to know. I am also very curious to know if the VAC will find the people using these types of cheat codes and ban them.

Please notate what kind of server you are on, Official, Private, Pvp, or PVE.

Stephani Rabbitheart
Official PVE Server 374

[Jain Zar]

pin codes allow ppl to open locked doors, if they are not on the permission list to open locked stuff.


for example. your tribe has auto lock active. so every think thats lockable, gets directly locked for tribe access only once placed ( or admin only ect ect...depends what you want ). no one aside of the ppl with access in your tribe can open those things.

if you set a pin codfe onto those things....every one can with the right pin code can open it... no matter if part of your tribe or not. everyone is able to access the key pad screen and can try to find the right code if they don't now it....

[Jain Zar]

it is risky if you play on official serves, because there are some morons around running external brute force progs on those pin coded things to get access ....

[bubblywums]

Lock your doors in PVE, don't pin code them unless you want to let other people in. Only pin code your storage boxes. Locks in PVE do not allow anyone to enter outside your tribe.

[Kyouma]

PIN is also used for the Remote Access Pad.

[RabbitHeart]

So just to be clear, on storage boxes there has to be a pin code or they can be accessed by anyone?

For some reason I always felt safer with the pin codes. I never ever imagined that people would try to access them or use a cheat program to decode them. Thank you all for your advice. I have cleared all off the passcodes on all doors and gates. I think as a precaution I will also choose a new passcode for our storage boxes since someone figured out our previous code.

[L0N RNGR]

Never pin your door! EVER! The boxes inside pin code them. Wish that they would let us lock the boxes and other containers. And to people do you put a padlock on your fridge at home? I have a cousin that does to keep her kids from going into the fridge at night and dumping things all over the house.

Oh, and Sephiani, you play on the same server as I do. This is Jamagh, Corellian League.

[Delta Tau]

Lock boxes, for some reason, start unlocked. Anyone can access them. They can only be locked with a pin code. Everything else defaults to a locked state without a pin code. I'm uncertain why they did it this way.

The most secure option is to only pin code your lock boxes and let the default "non-pin" locking handle the rest as it means nobody can ever guess a pin to open the door to your home. There are exactly two good reasons to set pin codes on things that are naturally locked without using them.

1. You want to share access with someone who isn't in your tribe.

I made a lockbox on my roof for trading with a neighbor tribe. He knew the pin and no one else did. When we arranged trades I would leave payment in the box and he would drop off what I was trading for. Since he had the pin he was the only one who could get into it so it was safe to leave outside on a pve server.

I also built a shared mining hut on the edge of a mountain far enough away not to interfere with spawn nodes. I also set and shared a pin code on the door so that my friendly neighbor tribes could also use the station rather than having to build their own and risking node interference.

2. The Remote Keypad device can be used to operate things that are pin coded from lights to windows to gates and doors.

Say for instance you set every light in the house to 1111. Using the keypad you can turn all of the lights on or off in the house at once using 1111. If you set all of your doors to the same secret pin code you can also lock your entire house down from a single location all at once. Great for when you are leaving the house and want to make sure you didn't forget any doors open anywhere. Of course if you only have one or two doors this doesn't matter so much as it would if you had a large base with lots of moving parts.

[IonoI]

I use pins on chests.
There are ways to glitch through walls so even a locked door isn't fully safe.
Also any time I want to leave a chest out in the open (pve)
or to allow a speific player/tribe to access something

[DrathDragoon33]

Just a reminder that in PVP if you don't pin lock your doors, monkey's can unlock the door.

[Delta Tau]

Originally posted by DrathDragoon33:

Just a reminder that in PVP if you don't pin lock your doors, monkey's can unlock the door.

I did not know that a pin could prevent this. Good to know!

[Midnight Piper]

Both lock types are actually just as susceptible to hacks, and really should be used in combination. Several hacks out there attempt to break pin codes - but the dev's have set a delay between code entries, so it takes time. Another hack out there adds a pin code to an uncoded door - allowing the hacker to give the door his own pin, then access the door with that pin.

The best advice is to use a multiple layered entry like an airlock - at least two doors, the first without a pincode so they need to have the "add pincode" hack to get past, the next door with a pincode so they have to take the time to bruteforce their way past with the other hack. My current base requires access through three doors to walk in - one uncoded, two behind it coded.

As to the rest, everyone here is right, pincode every container with a different pincode so the invader has to bruteforce each container seperately. Where you have containers that can't be pincoded, lock each in its own room - each of my three refrigerators is in its own closet behind a pincoded door, each with a different pincode.

Locks may not be enough however - there are ways to glitch through walls and bypass doors altogether. The only way to counter that is to build boxes within boxes, then stylize the exterior to look however you want. My current base is built inside 3 layers of exterior walls, floors and ceilings, on terrain thatmakes it difficult to get a dinosaur up next to the walls.

[RabbitHeart]

Wow! Thank you so much. Your opinions and advice is so very helpful. I really really appreciate it.