Tranquilizer Dart Worth or Not?

[BlaBlaBliBlaBloo]

Are they worth the price ? , how much torpor compared to xbow with tranq arrow?

[Myst?c]

HughEve eredeti hozzászólása:

I tested the darts out using a ramshack rifle vs my mastercraft xbow.
the rifle does roughly 40 damage per dart and just over 250 torpor per shot, which is added very very fast so you can shoot again as soon as you are reloaded.
the xbow does about 90 damage and 400 torpor per shot which is also added very quickly so no need to wait between shots it seems.

dont know if there is any rng in this but that is just retardedly stupid to have darts in game this expensive to use for less torpor output..... this is not what I had in mind when I was looking forward to tranq darts.
the sniper rifle is also stupid, why add an automatic rifle that does less damage than a longneck rifle... they should have added something like a winchester 70 bolt action rifle with the capability for tranq darts.....

i used two entirly diffrent tier lvl weapons to test somethign out,a nd say the higher tier item worked better. BRILLIANT, next time try basic primitive non drops please

[PocketYoda]

blade.blaster56745 eredeti hozzászólása:

DanteYoda eredeti hozzászólása:

The core problem with ARK is this Ark logic, that keeps popping up, all weapons need to be balanced and competitive with each other to be even usable, but sadly the grind the devs seem hell bent on adding ruins anything new being made..

you do miss one thing here, the range advantage, while yes it shouldnt not be taking 10billino times the damage on the durability, the extra range is really useful, as for no scope, its fine by me, i was able to get rid of some pesky people that wanted to do some offline raiding daily to my base with just a couple bullets and no scope on their fliers (one of them found me wandering today, and picked me up another and dropped me, yelling thats for my bird, after killing my dinos daily, i lived thru the drop, 500 hp ftw)

So a little bit of range equals all that extra farming and creating over a crossbow that is actually better at almost everything else..

I don't believe so.

[Dhaiwon]

From som rudimentary testing, the dart give 5,5 torpor for 1 dmg, the crossbow/bow give 4,5 torpor for 1 dmg. So about a 22% increase in torpor per dmg.

Probably wont be useful for all or even most of your tames, but with the added range I can easily see some niche cases where this would be extremely useful.

[Wolfman-RIP]

BlaBlaBliBlaBloo eredeti hozzászólása:

Are they worth the price ? , how much torpor compared to xbow with tranq arrow?

Nope

Nope

Nope


They are garbage and were added without any thought in regards to resource cost / torpo ratio. They are not any better than a Tranc arrow and I don't know how any developer can think their resource costs and torpo is fine.

Crossbow + Tranc arrows offer the best torpo right now. Alphas drop tons of journeyman crossbows.

[HughEve]

blade.blaster56745 eredeti hozzászólása:

HughEve eredeti hozzászólása:

I tested the darts out using a ramshack rifle vs my mastercraft xbow.
the rifle does roughly 40 damage per dart and just over 250 torpor per shot, which is added very very fast so you can shoot again as soon as you are reloaded.
the xbow does about 90 damage and 400 torpor per shot which is also added very quickly so no need to wait between shots it seems.

dont know if there is any rng in this but that is just retardedly stupid to have darts in game this expensive to use for less torpor output..... this is not what I had in mind when I was looking forward to tranq darts.
the sniper rifle is also stupid, why add an automatic rifle that does less damage than a longneck rifle... they should have added something like a winchester 70 bolt action rifle with the capability for tranq darts.....

i used two entirly diffrent tier lvl weapons to test somethign out,a nd say the higher tier item worked better. BRILLIANT, next time try basic primitive non drops please

lol whatever dude the difference is so big that the cost and the benefits dotn match.... blue longneck repair cost 133 ingots.... uhm sure np.....

[=7CAV=PVT.Binks.J]

Useless as hell. Not only are they insanely expensive to make themselves, but the cause greater loss of durability increasing maintenance cost. Still do quite a bit of damage to flyers. Maybe they might be a good idea for taking down a Rex, bit you better bring 4 primative long necks just in case. Complete and utter ♥♥♥♥.

[JasonB]

My tests had the Darts deal about the same as Torpor as Xbow (actually about 5% higher), but significantly (about 20-25% less damage). You guys are also forgetting that the Darts can be fired from much farther away (as far as the eye can see) and hit instantly. Therefore use darts against Quetz and far away targets, use xbow for mid/close range.

Because they deal less damage than Xbow, they are also the go to choice for knocking out an Argie.

[Liavain Axon]

Hate to bring real life into this, but Tranq Darts should do next to nothing for damage and apply moderate torpor. They make tranqs that can fell an elephant pretty quickly and without hurting it too much, so why not have it work more like it does in real life?

Besides, something that is harder to make and requires more levels to unlock -should- be more refined and effective in doing its job.

[Shion]

Liavain Axon eredeti hozzászólása:

Hate to bring real life into this, but Tranq Darts should do next to nothing for damage and apply moderate torpor. They make tranqs that can fell an elephant pretty quickly and without hurting it too much, so why not have it work more like it does in real life?

Besides, something that is harder to make and requires more levels to unlock -should- be more refined and effective in doing its job.

This.

[PocketYoda]

Eldar Seer eredeti hozzászólása:

Liavain Axon eredeti hozzászólása:

Hate to bring real life into this, but Tranq Darts should do next to nothing for damage and apply moderate torpor. They make tranqs that can fell an elephant pretty quickly and without hurting it too much, so why not have it work more like it does in real life?

Besides, something that is harder to make and requires more levels to unlock -should- be more refined and effective in doing its job.

This.

+1

[Quxudais]

Flammy eredeti hozzászólása:

If you are trying to use these to tame wild animals you are doing something wrong. The only point of using a rifle with tranq darts is PVP, the rifle has a very long range. You can tranq a level 220 ptera with 2-3 tranq arrows so I guess 3 tranq darts would work too.

If they are good against armored targets, they might be good to tranq players in flak as well.

All firearms in general are useless against wild dinos, except sometimes against an annoying bird you can calm down with 1 bullet.

The schism in performance between PvE and PvP is really really silly. Every item should have a function in PvE, I don't mind certain things like the Assault Rifle being less effective against big game as that makes sense; but there should be guns that are cost effective to use against dinos in PvE, spiked walls should be effective in PvE, bear traps should be Effective in PvE, Narc Grenades and Darts should be effective in PvE.

If anything it's reversed from what it should be, if something in PvE would be to strong in PvP nerf its functionality in PvP. Making half of the new defenses and weapons so cost-inefficient that basic crossbows are better is very poor design.

[The_Punisher]

Tranq Darts would be use to Tranq a player just use a crossbow for Dinos and get yourself a Mastercraft crossbow like i do.

[Quxudais]

The_Punisher eredeti hozzászólása:

Tranq Darts would be use to Tranq a player just use a crossbow for Dinos and get yourself a Mastercraft crossbow like i do.

The idea that pve technology should peak with a middle ages weapon is entirely comprised of 100% grade A ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

[Urazz]

I was under the impression that tranq darts did more torpor and did less damage but cost alot of resources, especially since they buffed the amount of torpor they did. They are more for mid to late game in my opinion when you are aiming to get perfect tames and have the resources to spare for it. If resources are an issue then a crossbow and tranq arrows are a better bet.

[Shion]

Urazz eredeti hozzászólása:

I was under the impression that tranq darts did more torpor and did less damage but cost alot of resources, especially since they buffed the amount of torpor they did. They are more for mid to late game in my opinion when you are aiming to get perfect tames and have the resources to spare for it. If resources are an issue then a crossbow and tranq arrows are a better bet.

That's not factoring in the durability cost on the longneck for using them; it just isn't worth it for how much it costs both for the dart and the durability damage it does to the gun.