Ark crashing when loading a singleplayer save.

[charade539]

This seems to have become the norm for me ever since ASA came out. I'll make a new save, play for a few hours, close it out, and upon the next time I want to play that save, it starts to load, then crashes. Last time it loaded in a second time just fine, but crashed today when I tried to load it in again.

The obvious questions:
Yes, I have mods. No they did not cause this issue up until recently. I'm also confused as to why the mods would load in fine the first and second time, but not the third.

Yes, I have validated my files. A few times. It's highly annoying to have to spend 2-3 days waiting for it to fully validate before I try again so I'd like to avoid that.

Yes, I have reinstalled the game. Like validating though, this takes forever and I'd really rather not have to do it every time I want to attempt to play singleplayer.

[charade539]

Here's the error message: https://tinypic.host/image/Screenshot-2024-08-31-135642.23qdY4

[william_es]

Please post error messages in plain text here in the forums. I don't click on random url's, even if it's tinypic.

[charade539]

Hopefully this works:

' The UE4-ShooterGame Game has crashed and will close X
Fatal error!
VERSION: 358.25 ShooterGame.exe!UWorld::LoadFromFile() (0x00007ff716ed0b29) + 3 bytes [fi\build\lostisland\engine\source\runtime\engine\private\world.cpp:6986] ShooterGame.exe!AShooterGameMode::LoadWorld() (0x00007f171512c5f1) + 2619 bytes [fi\build\lostisland\projects\shootergame\source\shootergame\private\shooterga rnemode.cpp:2754] ShooterGame.exe!AShooterGameMode::InitGame() (0x00007ff7150f16e4) + 0 bytes [fi\build\lostisland\projects\shootergame\source\shootergame\private\shooterga rnemode.cppl 525] ShooterGame.exe!UWorld::InitializeActorsForPlay() (0x00007f1716ec28ea) + 43 bytes [f:\build\lostisland\engine\source\runtime\engine\private\world.cpp:3244] ShooterGame.exe!UEngine::LoadMap() (0x00007f1716e986e1) + 0 bytes [fi\build\I \ engine \ source \runtime \engine \private \ unrealengine.cpp:1037 4] ShooterGame.exe!UEngine::Browse() (0x00007ff716e9313d) + 46 bytes [fi\build\lostisland\engine\source\runtime\engine\private\unrealengine.cpp:9028] ShooterGame.exeRJEngine::TickWorldTravel() (0x00007f1716e93e30) + 68 bytes [fi\build\lostisland\engine\source\runtime\engine\private\unrealengine.cpp:9200] ShooterGame.exe!UGameEngine::Tick() (0x00007f1716bd8213) + 0 bytes [fi\build\Iostisland \ engine \ source \runtime \engine \private \gameengine.cpp:1168] ShooterGame.exe!FEngineLoop::Tick() (0x00007f171437b9d9) + 0 bytes [fi\build\lostisland\engine\source\runtime\launch\private\launchengineloop.cpp:2 648] ShooterGame.exe!GuardedMain() (0x00007f171437632c) + 0 bytes [fi\build\I \ engine\ source \runtime \ launch \private \ launch.cpp:140] ShooterGame.exe!GuardedMainWrapper() (0x00007f171437c14a) + 5 bytes [fi\build\lostisland\engine\source\runtime\launch\private\windows\launchwindow s.cpp:125] ShooterGame.exe!WinMain() (0x00007f171437d099) + 8 bytes [fi\build\lostisland\engine\source\runtime\launch\private\windows\launchwindow s.cpp:213] ShooterGame.exe!_tmainCRTStartup() (0x00007ff717f33de1) + 21 bytes [f:\ddWctools\crAcrtw32\dllstuff\crtexe.c:618] KERNEL32.DWUnknownFunction (0x00007ff95567257d) + 0 bytes [UnknownFile:0] ntd11.dll!UnknownFunction (0x00007ff956aaaf28) + 0 bytes [UnknownFile:0] ntdll.dll!UnknownFunction (0x00007ff956aaaf28) + 0 bytes [UnknownFile:0]
OK

[Uncle Fester]

Speaking from extensive experience, it is most likely a mod that is outdated and is not compatible with a map or maps, or even another mod. You could try emptying your mod list, and slowly add mods until you get another crash. Maybe start with some older mods that do not get updated due to new version of the game. You could also start with the last 5 mods that you have added. I cannot play Lost Island at all, likely my computer outdated with some new mods/maps, yet I am able to play Fjordur with no issue. Hope this gives you a lead to follow, if not, sorry for bothering you. Happy gaming.

[charade539]

Thanks for the info. I'll give it a shot. It's just odd that the map would load twice but crash on the third attempt.

[The Nugget]

Hate to say this - Older gamer here, but I been through this all and theres no answer other than the single player is eventually going to fault and loose your save, it may take a year but it's coming.
The only way to not be disapointed by this is to just play on a low pop PVE server.
This goes WAY back to the beginning, as Ark is primarily a multiplayer and they never fixed the issue or can't, either way it is what it is. You can trawl through the prev history and posts on this, but I just saved you the time, there are multiple threads.
This applies to single player without any mods at all, mods my affect it even worse as stated above they go out of date if not updated.
I run a mega stable PC, I never have any issues on other games or steam other than this one game save issue on Ark.

[Silke]

I've had that issue with the Ragnarok map for the longest time. Never found a workaround. A clean re-install would probably fix it but I just play other maps. If you go for the install, make sure you also delete all the Ark files on your pc and download everything fresh.

[charade539]

That's the thing, I played singleplayer for ages before this issue cropped up. Now on almost every map, regardless of what mods I load, I can load in a new game, but if I close out and go back in, it crashes. If it works a second time, it crashes on the third. I could play the same save for months before this but it seems like around the time ASA came out ASE just decided to hate me. It's driving me nuts.

Originally posted by The Nugget:

Hate to say this - Older gamer here, but I been through this all and theres no answer other than the single player is eventually going to fault and loose your save, it may take a year but it's coming.
The only way to not be disapointed by this is to just play on a low pop PVE server.
This goes WAY back to the beginning, as Ark is primarily a multiplayer and they never fixed the issue or can't, either way it is what it is. You can trawl through the prev history and posts on this, but I just saved you the time, there are multiple threads.
This applies to single player without any mods at all, mods my affect it even worse as stated above they go out of date if not updated.
I run a mega stable PC, I never have any issues on other games or steam other than this one game save issue on Ark.

[retsam1]

Originally posted by charade539:

That's the thing, I played singleplayer for ages before this issue cropped up. Now on almost every map, regardless of what mods I load, I can load in a new game, but if I close out and go back in, it crashes. If it works a second time, it crashes on the third. I could play the same save for months before this but it seems like around the time ASA came out ASE just decided to hate me. It's driving me nuts.

Originally posted by The Nugget:

Hate to say this - Older gamer here, but I been through this all and theres no answer other than the single player is eventually going to fault and loose your save, it may take a year but it's coming.
The only way to not be disapointed by this is to just play on a low pop PVE server.
This goes WAY back to the beginning, as Ark is primarily a multiplayer and they never fixed the issue or can't, either way it is what it is. You can trawl through the prev history and posts on this, but I just saved you the time, there are multiple threads.
This applies to single player without any mods at all, mods my affect it even worse as stated above they go out of date if not updated.
I run a mega stable PC, I never have any issues on other games or steam other than this one game save issue on Ark.

Outside of posting the UE4 crash error report, you've really not provided much in the way of diagnostic information to help you source the crash(as crashes are symptoms not causes) and suggest/provide any potential solutions for you.

So:

1. Go to the steam help menu, click "system information" and copy paste all that here so we can specifically see what steam detects for your computer and any potential discrepancies that might have relevance.

2. Since you mentioned using mods, list all mods by name and in their specific loading order. Bad mods and bad loading order and even bad combinations of ok mobs can be factors.

3. Have you employed any changes to ini settings as well?

4. Just because you've played before and claim no issues doesnt preclude points 1 and 2 as being culprits(especially given the context of your ue4 crash error report's information) to your crashing).

5. In cases where 1 and 2 (or even a recipe of both) have occurred, saves for your game can, even after resolving the discrepancies, still be corrupt due to that and unable to be fixed. In which in those cases, a new game save will have to be made and with 1 and 2 being more mindful of.


So provide those most basic bits of info and lets see from there.

[charade539]

[/quote]
Outside of posting the UE4 crash error report, you've really not provided much in the way of diagnostic information to help you source the crash(as crashes are symptoms not causes) and suggest/provide any potential solutions for you.

So:

1. Go to the steam help menu, click "system information" and copy paste all that here so we can specifically see what steam detects for your computer and any potential discrepancies that might have relevance.

2. Since you mentioned using mods, list all mods by name and in their specific loading order. Bad mods and bad loading order and even bad combinations of ok mobs can be factors.

3. Have you employed any changes to ini settings as well?

4. Just because you've played before and claim no issues doesnt preclude points 1 and 2 as being culprits(especially given the context of your ue4 crash error report's information) to your crashing).

5. In cases where 1 and 2 (or even a recipe of both) have occurred, saves for your game can, even after resolving the discrepancies, still be corrupt due to that and unable to be fixed. In which in those cases, a new game save will have to be made and with 1 and 2 being more mindful of.


So provide those most basic bits of info and lets see from there. [/quote]

Please don't be so condescending. I'm giving the information I've been asked for as it was asked of me.

1.
Computer Information:
Manufacturer: LENOVO
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2.
Kraken's Better Dinos
Immersive Taming
Saddle Emporium
Dino Storage V2
Hazestacks
Animals of Atlas
Marniimods: Horses
Castles Keeps and Forts Remastered
Prehistoric Beasts
Eco's Empires - Matis
Paleo Ark: Legends Expansion
Faye's Plateosaurus
Structures Plus (S+)
Upgrade Station V1.81
Dino Tracker

3. Only to enable permanent pickup.

4. Maybe, but it is a little weird that everything would run fine for two years and then all of a sudden I'm no longer allowed to play singleplayer. On top of this seeming to be a constant problem as there's many other posts like this in here.

5. I'm not sure how to respond to this other than "okay I guess I'm only allowed one session of singleplayer on a map from now on"? This has happened on every map I've tried to play, regardless of what mods I have running or in what order. It'd be nice to be allowed at least a little progression in a game I enjoy.

[retsam1]

1. Driver Date: 11 30 2023 You've not updated your graphic card driver in close to a year now. In gaming that's a no no.

Go to the nvidia website and download(if you dont have already) the nvidia geforce experience program. Not only does it help keep you up to date for your card's driver but it also tells you the recommended settings for your playing of Ark and other games.

Also for better performance, Ark and steam being on your ssd is better than your HDD as load times will be painful going into maps otherwise, especially with that large number of mods.

2. You've multiple mods on your list that are broken/abandoned. Also your load order is questionable given some of those mods tell you they need to be on or near the top of a load order. You're also using mods from multiple different authors that add dinos or have utilities that are similar to other mods in the list and that also can easily be a cause for conflict.

Cull your mods, improve your load order but again keep in mind that your save may still be corrupted due to your previously bad decisions regarding them.

4. There is no maybe. Sorry but you've been gambling on this and finally have rolled snake eyes. If you wish to think other wise then that's your choice but time and time again on here for 9 years now we've seen how this ends up with people being a forum crash thread waiting for a place to happen.

And regarding what you see from other posts, the common denominators are almost always the same: Bad comp management, bad mod management, or a combination of the two(which is what you have).

5. If you want to progress in the game, then ensure you're simply not making bad decisions with your comp management and your mod choices. Whether you're capable of rectifying the situation with your current situation remains to be seen as you've plenty to work on of course. But I simply warned you(as its not uncommon) that you may have to scrap your old save and make a new one and be wiser about the above points.


All in all, you've plenty to sort for the moment so best of luck.

[charade539]

1. Done. Minus geforce experience because I refuse to make an account just to update a driver. And again, stop with the condescension.

2. Let's say it again! For the...let me count...third time? This has happened regardless of what mods I use.

4. I again request you stop being so condescending. Contrary to your obvious belief, I'm not an idiot. It isn't hard to just give information without putting others down.

5. Fourth time! This has happened regardless of what mods I used. Maybe if I put it twice in one post you'll notice it. (See, I can be condescending too!) I'm pretty sure I even tested it entirely without mods. But I'll go ahead and test that again since you seem convinced I can't tie my own shoes. Seriously, why is it so difficult to just....not be a ♥♥♥♥?

[skyguard]

Your mod list that you posted, is this also their load order ?
98% of the time, Dino mods need to be in the top load with S+ and any stacking mod.

Sorry that it takes that long to validate, it does not take that long normally.

[Persony Person]

If you've rollbacked saves and it's still happening, then it's clearly an issue with either mod conflicts or your hardware.

Singleplayer should just work fine, even with mods. I have the same character consistently transferring between maps with very few issues, making the occasional backup before transfers in case of corruption. Sometimes the automatic Anti-corruption backup bails me out.

In your case, the only solution I can suggest is by making a backup of your save folder, disable and/or unsubscribe from all yours mods, play with vanilla on a fresh save (perhaps on creative to easily place modded items down), and then add + test your mods one at a time to isolate which mod is causing the problem. When done, you can overwrite the testing saves with the original save folder that you backed up. I'd also keep cross checking with the GameUserSettings.ini whilst doing this. Paying attention to everything in the [ServerSettings] section that is the "ActiveMods=xxxxxxxx,xxxxxxxx..." line and below, looking for any discrepancies.

If it's still happening on vanilla with no mods installed and no remnant code from mods being present, then the fault is likely to be hardware related, which the potential solutions range from messing around with the video/game settings to driver/OS updates to directly inspecting the hardware itself.