RIOT Armor - Expected Higher Armor Rating

[RedRaven]

So I just got our server updated to the 233.1 ptch and unlocked our shiny new engrams. Was pleased to learn Flak is now a smithy item. However was a little dissapointed in the armor rating for RIOT gear only being a base of 15 points higher than Flak. Now I haven't had a chance to test its torpor blocking and all that since I'm currently the only person on the server. So I was wondering how the rest of you who have had a chance to test it felt.

I'm not saying it sucks or anything as I said haven't had a chance to test it yet. I just was expecting a larger armor rating, but perhaps it doesn't need a super high rating to block a large amount of damage/torpor. So, thoughts?

[Protekt1]

I expected higher durability. The armor is heavy too. Also I do kind of agree that for the price its only 15% gain. I mean, it is a lot of polymer to make a full set and previous armor tiers increased by a much larger % gain.

[RedRaven]

Originally posted by Protekt1:

I expected higher durability. The armor is heavy too. Also I do kind of agree that for the price its only 15% gain. I mean, it is a lot of polymer to make a full set and previous armor tiers increased by a much larger % gain.

Exactly my thought. However the polymer really isn't to bad these days with the ability to harvest Kairuku with clubs for organic polymer (granted the snow biome presents it's own challenges).

I never really thought about the durability. I would think that metal flak armour would be more durable than plastic riot gear but I'm no armor expert haha. Was just kinda surprised since the patch highlights kinda made it seem like it was on it's own level as far as in game armor was concered.

I look forward to testing it today once some of my other server members are able to get on.

[Kronus]

Honestly, I think there should be a continued diminishing returns on higher tiered items. It acts as a way to level the playing field somewhat (in that more resources are spent for smaller gains) while still conferring those players an advantage.

I mean really, what should be the greater advancement: going from cloth armor to metal or from metal to riot? One is a revolution while the other is just an improvement.

[Omega-X]

i would at least hope riot gear has some bullet resistance put into it since it's riot shield is already out and is a great use for blocking those annoying bullets.

[Atrox]

lets start searching for blue and purple grade SWAT blueprints - they will be pretty nice)

[RedRaven]

Originally posted by Kronus:

Honestly, I think there should be a continued diminishing returns on higher tiered items. It acts as a way to level the playing field somewhat (in that more resources are spent for smaller gains) while still conferring those players an advantage.

I mean really, what should be the greater advancement: going from cloth armor to metal or from metal to riot? One is a revolution while the other is just an improvement.

I can understand that point of view... However those are some extremely expensive improvements. If it continued that way for the rest of the game a large portion of players would just opt to never craft the higher teirs, thus why have them in game. It's a fineline for the devs to walk as we all know the player base can be, heated, about topics such as this.

IMO, I think that flak now being in the smithy is a sign that more armor will be coming past RIOT.

[Hagakure]

Having blueprints for all Flak pieces, all Riot pieces are inferior to the flak I can make/have now.

So the Riot armour is useless (to me) from the moment it was released (or am I missing something major here?)

[Totally not cow]

i thought it would have less armour than flak(so dinos will eat you eazily and swords will work) but some serious resistance against bullets

anyways at the very least it looks amazing and the torpor reducing effect is also pretty cool :)

[RedRaven]

Originally posted by DWard chakra.mc:

Having blueprints for all Flak pieces, all Riot pieces are inferior to the flak I can make/have now.

So the Riot armour is useless (to me) from the moment it was released (or am I missing something major here?)

Blueprints for flak are better than the base engrams which is what we're talking about. The engrams for RIOT are only 15 higher than the engrams for Flak. Once they update the master item id tables the loot drops will have blueprints for RIOT gear as well which will be better than the flak blueprint.

The torpor effect seems to be pretty worth it though with the minimal testing I've done.

[Hagakure]

Originally posted by RedRaven:

Originally posted by DWard chakra.mc:

Having blueprints for all Flak pieces, all Riot pieces are inferior to the flak I can make/have now.

So the Riot armour is useless (to me) from the moment it was released (or am I missing something major here?)

Blueprints for flak are better than the base engrams which is what we're talking about. The engrams for RIOT are only 15 higher than the engrams for Flak. Once they update the master item id tables the loot drops will have blueprints for RIOT gear as well which will be better than the flak blueprint.

The torpor effect seems to be pretty worth it though with the minimal testing I've done.

As you mention, the base engram of Riot is only 15 points higher on the pieces then flak, this was kind of a disapointment to me.

Maybe it's worth getting the Riot gear when there are blueprints available with better stats then the default.