Birds dropping people too overpowered

[EliteEvyn]

Hey guys, no matter how big walls you build around your base are in pvp, birds can still fly over, and they can pick you up, and drop you from up high, and you will fall to your death unless you land in deep water, I think these birds are very overpowered and need to be nerfed a bit.
First off I think ark should make the distance that you start taking fall damage greater.
Next I think if you do fall from a good height you shouldn't die immidently, instead you should take some damage and have broken bones (which for some reason is only being used for when you have low health???) and when you have broken bones you should walk slower
Lastly I think the different levels of armored boots (ex cloth, hide, chitin, flak) should give you different protection against fall damage.
I think these are great ideas so ark please think of implementing some or all of these ideas into the game please, and players who agree or disagree reply with your opinions below.
Thanks

[crgzero]

Parachutes are far to plentiful in supply drops, shotguns come fairly early and are devestating at close range, IE while being picked up by a bird. Shoot that phuquer. He/She/It will stop griefing you after you've murdered all his birds, and probably him as well. (the griefer in all likelihood won't have a parachute)

[Sistermatic™]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย crgzero:

... Shoot that phuquer. He/She/It will stop griefing you after you've murdered all his birds, and probably him as well. (the griefer in all likelihood won't have a parachute)

How can a bird drop be called griefing? It's a PvP server and OP has multiple counters - that he simply hasn't learned about yet.

[udo]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย irkalla:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Elitevyn:

you won't have parachutes on you at all times

yes, yes I do, and I'm not even on a PVP server.

then how are the picking you up , thught picking up players not in your tribe didnt hap[pen on pve

[Sistermatic™]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Udo:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย irkalla:

yes, yes I do, and I'm not even on a PVP server.

then how are the picking you up , thught picking up players not in your tribe didnt happen on pve

THAT reply was a person saying he carries parachutes anyway - even though not on PvP. eg: for accidental dismount etc. :)

[crgzero]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Sista:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย crgzero:

... Shoot that phuquer. He/She/It will stop griefing you after you've murdered all his birds, and probably him as well. (the griefer in all likelihood won't have a parachute)

How can a bird drop be called griefing? It's a PvP server and OP has multiple counters - that he simply hasn't learned about yet.

Because from the sounds of his post he's consistently harassed in this way, instead of just straight up combat. So yeah, griefing.

[Ceranai]

https://steamcommunity.com/app/346110/discussions/0/615086038669725633/

https://steamcommunity.com/app/346110/discussions/0/594820656463405923/

New players, same problems

[EliteEvyn]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย axenation:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Elitevyn:

Hey guys, no matter how big walls you build around your base are in pvp, birds can still fly over, and they can pick you up, and drop you from up high, and you will fall to your death unless you land in deep water, I think these birds are very overpowered and need to be nerfed a bit.

Did you try hitting the bird in the face while they're picking you up? Shotgun .. pike .. something?

Are you too low level to make a parachute?

Did you try avoiding the bird?

More info is needed before it will be nerfed.

I tried avoiding the bird, and stabbed it with a pike 20 times before it dropped me but it didn't die.
I made a parachute, do I have to keep it in my hotbar to use it or does it get used automatically. (My tribe does not have the metal to make guns at the molment)

[EliteEvyn]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Ceranai:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/346110/discussions/0/615086038669725633/

https://steamcommunity.com/app/346110/discussions/0/594820656463405923/

New players, same problems

I'm not a new player, Xbox ark just came out like 2 weeks ago and I've been playing it since, Everyone's ideas/tactics are viable in here but We don't have guns yet.

[J_Snipe]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Elitevyn:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Shane:

parachutes

you won't have parachutes on you at all times

I do.

[Githany]

Always carry parachutes. Easy peasy. Next complaint!

/thread

[Sistermatic™]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย crgzero:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Sista:

How can a bird drop be called griefing? It's a PvP server and OP has multiple counters - that he simply hasn't learned about yet.

Because from the sounds of his post he's consistently harassed in this way, instead of just straight up combat. So yeah, griefing.

If a player gets chomped by a rex when the eatee has no walls, is this griefing? If a player takes a wooden stick to a gun fight, is this griefing?

Someone is using a legitimate kill technique on a player who is not using ANY of the multiple counters he has been given? If it's "consistently" happening then you have a Homer Simpson event, nothing more.

OP has guns, parachutes, his own Ptera, turrets, spikes, organics, a roof, Argies..... etc... Whether he is killed once or a thousand times, if he makes no effort to counter, this is NO fault of the flyer or the mechanic.

Consider, OP has no parachute but argues fall damage and/or nerf the birds. He is allowing himself to be killed. His solution? He asks for the game to be changed.

If there's any griefing here it's to himself. It's self inflicted.

[Darkgarza]

Switch servers to a PVE were you cant pick up people with birds, which is pretty much every official server and a lot of unofficial. And stay away from PVP because if you are crying about this in PVE then PVP will give you a nerves breakdown.

[Steel Jacket]

Parachutes, ALWAYS carry 3-4 with you, there is no excuse not to have them as soon as you can get the engram.

Species X, these are not fool proof but it will prevent them from picking you up and dropping you from your base.

Shotguns, get your hands on a primitive shotty, no ptero or argy rider in their right mind will pick you up with a shotty, and if they do they will regret it. This will not stop a quetzal from picking you up and laughing at your shotgun rounds though, so keep that in mind.

Turrets, these things destroy flyers it's actually quite brutal even quetzals melt when they have 2+ turrets opening up on them.

Pteranadons of your own. If they come to get you parachute down and mount a pteranadon and then roll them off their bird.

Weight. If it's a pteranadon likelihood is the rider has war gear (at least 60lbs) a saddle (another 20lbs) and whatever extra gear they may be carrying, so lets say 100lbs even. Seeing as though your average 120 perfect tame is sitting at like 220-240 carry weight, and it's rare anyone puts weight into pteranadons if you upgrade to 200 weight and carry about 100 lbs with you at all times if it picks you up it will be crawling and forced to drop you early.

Air is superior in every game, regardless of what you play. This is not going to change for ark, just gotta get used to it and find work arounds.

[HeavenArk]

Build some Plant X, fixed. Search in wiki if you dont know that it is.

[🦊Λℚ𝓤ΛƑΛᗯҜᔕ🦊]

Just train up and build some automated gun turrets. They will 1-shot to 3-shot anyone flying over your base and kill them in the air no matter how powerful their birds are.

All flying dinos take +4x damage from automated gun turrets.

Also like others have said, always keep your parachutes on you at all times on a PVP server.

Pretty much playing on PVP, as your first ARK experience, is a really, really big mistake.

PVP servers (Especially the official ones) have the worst a$$holes in the world in them that will do everything to kill you (repeatedly), punish you for being alive and do every little thing they can to try and kill you every single time you spawn and destroy all of your base and dinos just because they can and they're jerkwads and "Get a rise" out of it. Also almost everyone on official PvP servers are under the age of 18 and they will laugh at you for being new on a PvP server "Trolllolololol you're a stupid newb." type stuff.

I would -strongly- suggest you at least play on a PvE server for some time to see how fun ark can really be. And avoid official servers. There are no server admins, they -DO NOT- police bad behaviour and people are a$$holes in PvE as well.