Ark Survival has Evolved into... UNPLAYABLE

[ThisMadClown]

Ark is a great game but it's become unenjoyable for some and unplayable for others. As I write this, my avatar on official server 16 has been caged, immobile and unplayable for over six hours. I'd suicide and respawn... but that's not an option.

Changes to Ark have given players the ability to immobilize other players for hours, days, or forever, but not given captive players an EQUAL option such as a suicide and respawn.

I paid for an MMO I can actually play and enjoy. Not a game in which other players can effectively keep me from playing for unlimited amounts of time. That "evolved" later. And maybe I just don't "get" the fun aspect of sitting in a cage doing nothing for hours and hours. To me, that's the MMO version of paying $30 to watch paint dry. I don't have a problem with giving players the ability to abduct and incarcerate other players. It's interesting. I do have a problem with having NO CHOICE in how long that goes on. It makes Ark imbalanced, unenjoyable and unplayable. That's a deal-killer.

And no, you can't do anything about it. Handcuffs can't be escaped and don't allow you to use your hands. No punching walls or using anything to suicide with. Your captors encumber you so you can't burn stamina, food and water to kill yourself. And captors are able to force feed you to keep you alive indefinitely. So you're stuck, unable to actually play Ark for as long as they decide to hijack your game.

Is not being able to play Ark what we bought Ark for?

[Cool Kid]

Originally posted by throttlejam:

Ark is a great game but it's become unenjoyable for some and unplayable for others. As I write this, my avatar on official server 16 has been caged, immobile and unplayable for over six hours. I'd suicide and respawn... but that's not an option.

Changes to Ark have given players the ability to immobilize other players for hours, days, or forever, but not given captive players an EQUAL option such as a suicide and respawn.

I paid for an MMO I can actually play and enjoy. Not a game in which other players can effectively keep me from playing for unlimited amounts of time. That "evolved" later. And maybe I just don't "get" the fun aspect of sitting in a cage doing nothing for hours and hours. To me, that's the MMO version of paying $30 to watch paint dry. I don't have a problem with giving players the ability to abduct and incarcerate other players. It's interesting. I do have a problem with having NO CHOICE in how long that goes on. It makes Ark imbalanced, unenjoyable and unplayable. That's a deal-killer.

And no, you can't do anything about it. Handcuffs can't be escaped and don't allow you to use your hands. No punching walls or using anything to suicide with. Your captors encumber you so you can't burn stamina, food and water to kill yourself. And captors are able to force feed you to keep you alive indefinitely. So you're stuck, unable to actually play Ark for as long as they decide to hijack your game.

Is not being able to play Ark what we bought Ark for?

Well, if their putting in the effort to keep you alive, they should be able to keep you indefinitely. They put in the resources, time, and effort to keep you there. If you had the choice of escape, all of that would be worthless. It would effectively negate that part of the game, because who would actually stay there? They might as well remove handcuff and cages and narcotics. It would negate trading back captured enemy tribe members for resources, and it would dampen negotiations or incentives. If your playing this game by yourself and get captured, that's on you.

[brulis2]

Yeah.... that's creepy. I'll stick to single player.

[JackAttack87]

Just afk and never log out eventully they will let you go.

[jishness (a carrot)]

Brulis don't let his complaints scare you. There are tons of PVE servers where stuff like this can't happen. He's complaining because he's on a player vs player server where someone actually is doing player vs player stuff and he isn't getting his way. He could go play on a different PVP server, or even go to a PVE one if that kind of gameplay isn't what he wants.

[Jimbo]

Play on a different server. Multiplayer involves multiple players (duh) and some people are jerks. I personally have yet to use an official server (which I hear are populated by <insert derogatory term here>) and have no problems.

[Frostbringer]

OP
Did they kidnap you randomly or did you do something so heinous that people would actually guard you 24/7?

And no, this is not "blaming the victim" who chose to play on a video games PVP server of their own free will.

[HawthornThistleberry]

Never had much interest in PVP myself, but if I did, this kind of thing would make me definitely fine some other game to do the PVP in. The whole idea that depriving someone else the chance to play the game is a part of the game seems insanely ludicrous to me. Someone just argued that an escape option "would effectively negate that part of the game" as if that were a bad thing. But this part of the game clearly needs to be negated since its entire purpose is to effectively negate ALL of the game for someone else.

[Anubis]

Originally posted by Private_Turkey_Leg:

Originally posted by throttlejam:

Ark is a great game but it's become unenjoyable for some and unplayable for others. As I write this, my avatar on official server 16 has been caged, immobile and unplayable for over six hours. I'd suicide and respawn... but that's not an option.

Changes to Ark have given players the ability to immobilize other players for hours, days, or forever, but not given captive players an EQUAL option such as a suicide and respawn.

I paid for an MMO I can actually play and enjoy. Not a game in which other players can effectively keep me from playing for unlimited amounts of time. That "evolved" later. And maybe I just don't "get" the fun aspect of sitting in a cage doing nothing for hours and hours. To me, that's the MMO version of paying $30 to watch paint dry. I don't have a problem with giving players the ability to abduct and incarcerate other players. It's interesting. I do have a problem with having NO CHOICE in how long that goes on. It makes Ark imbalanced, unenjoyable and unplayable. That's a deal-killer.

And no, you can't do anything about it. Handcuffs can't be escaped and don't allow you to use your hands. No punching walls or using anything to suicide with. Your captors encumber you so you can't burn stamina, food and water to kill yourself. And captors are able to force feed you to keep you alive indefinitely. So you're stuck, unable to actually play Ark for as long as they decide to hijack your game.

Is not being able to play Ark what we bought Ark for?

Well, if their putting in the effort to keep you alive, they should be able to keep you indefinitely. They put in the resources, time, and effort to keep you there. If you had the choice of escape, all of that would be worthless. It would effectively negate that part of the game, because who would actually stay there? They might as well remove handcuff and cages and narcotics. It would negate trading back captured enemy tribe members for resources, and it would dampen negotiations or incentives. If your playing this game by yourself and get captured, that's on you.

You sir, are really smart, i want to be like you, can you teach me sensei? Please?

And that is the stupid tool added to the game, it make captives unable to PLAY the game, tell me how is that a good thing? You talk becouse its not you on that situation, becouse if where you in the cage for some hours you will cry and hate them too. Its easy to talk when we are not in the situation...

[Cool Kid]

Originally posted by Anubis:

Originally posted by Private_Turkey_Leg:

Well, if their putting in the effort to keep you alive, they should be able to keep you indefinitely. They put in the resources, time, and effort to keep you there. If you had the choice of escape, all of that would be worthless. It would effectively negate that part of the game, because who would actually stay there? They might as well remove handcuff and cages and narcotics. It would negate trading back captured enemy tribe members for resources, and it would dampen negotiations or incentives. If your playing this game by yourself and get captured, that's on you.

You sir, are really smart, i want to be like you, can you teach me sensei? Please?

And that is the stupid tool added to the game, it make captives unable to PLAY the game, tell me how is that a good thing? You talk becouse its not you on that situation, becouse if where you in the cage for some hours you will cry and hate them too. Its easy to talk when we are not in the situation...

I have been in the situation. It's not fun, but it's a part of the game. What your proposing is the same as taking it out of the game. The grind isn't fun, but it's much more rewarding when you finally get that compound bow. It's much more rewarding when you finally escape, rather than if you can just suicide.

[{-PS-}Jigsawxl1984]

If u want to play on an small server just for fun in a community pm me i got an 16 slot server so no big groups and fun is the main objective

[Massacre]

Cage or a1x1 structure can serve the same purpose no point in pulling out cages when they will just find another way to do it. Play unofficial served I play on has rules. Can't keep prisoner more then half an hour

[Sistermatic™]

As much as I have a HTFU stance on PvP servers, I've never been keen on this mechanic. If a "crime" against a tribe has been committed, no issue with it but if it's just for S&G, no way. It's too open to abuse.

Without proper cause, the price for keeping a prisoner has to be a lot higher to provide a much more serious reasoning for the detention.

Perhaps the jailer needs to be the only one who can keep a prisoner as a balancer, otherwise the tribe can just rotate the tasks and keep them indefinitely. That simply nurtures gang mentality and if performed by an alpha tribe, leaves it unresolvable under any circumstance.

Put simply, it is denial of play because you CAN'T do anything while detention is cheap.

[Faceroller]

Originally posted by throttlejam:

I paid for an MMO I can actually play and enjoy.

Too bad this isn't a MMO, not even close. It's Minecraft with dumb and unrealistic dinosaurs.

[Cool Kid]

Originally posted by Faceroller:

Originally posted by throttlejam:

I paid for an MMO I can actually play and enjoy.

Too bad this isn't a MMO, not even close. It's Minecraft with dumb and unrealistic dinosaurs.

They CANNOT be unrealistic, none of them are actual species we can find in the fossil record. That's like calling Dragons dumb because they're not scientifically accurate to real Dragons. You can't make the comparison.

[Splosions]

Originally posted by Chicken-Claw:

Just afk and never log out eventully they will let you go.

This is not a fix to the overall problem.

What other game keeps players from playing on purpose for an indiscriminate amount of time?

It isn't like this is unavoidable. No new player can avoid an alpha tribe if said alpha tribe really wanted to be mean. So now this is just part of the game?

Ok pay me $30 And randomly without warning, I will take the game away from you.
No you can't play.
Why?
Because......that's why
Now go do something else.
How long?
Until I get bored of you not playing

Your assailants, have to grow bored of you not playing, then you can play again

So much sense being made here