Handcuffs need a escape mechanic.

[StoneTiger]

As the title says.

We need a way we can escape them. It doesn't have to be easy or fast. But we need a way to get out of them. Or a lot of people will quit the game. Because of griefers not letting people or and repeatedly handcuffing and caging people even if they kill them selfs to get away.

Now myself the tribe I'm in likes to mess with each other and the handcuffs are great for it. But some people out there don't know when to stop and then make the game unenjoyable to play.

So maybe some escape mechanics can be added. That don't need any resource as you can't access your inventory with them on. Maybe some kind of engram you need to learn the skill. Which mite not be cheap to learn but isn't so expensive it's a was of point. Or maybe a skill you get for learning the engram to make them as you know how to build them and so you should know the weakness of them also.

Please think about it Dev's.

------
Now just to clear things up as a few people on the steam forum are getting pissy about it.



I don't mean a instant easy out of them. Maybe a timer till you can a tempt to escape, or a lock picking skill, or maybe you find a stick or pcs of thatch from the cage to pick the locks. Maybe even after a while they lose durability as they are primtivly made.  

In no way am I calling everyone that uses them a griefer just that they have a big chance to be used to do so. 

My experience so far has been fun for myself or my tribe mates messing around with each other. But we are also nice enough after a little bit to let the person or persons go so they can enjoy playing the game.  

As in no way is being locked in a cage and or handcuffed and not able to do anything but look around or run around fun for long periods of time.

We need a counter to this so we can have fun trying to escape. Some type of mini game or activity to help with escaping would help.  

Now people that are determined to keep to locked up will still do so but it wouldn't be as easy on them. They can still knock you out to feed and keep you trap either way. 

[isiel]

1000000% agree. As a handcuffed target :(

[Nementh]

+1 for almost constructive, not whiny feedback.

[killern00b]

+

And i like your idea about getting the skill when learned the handcuffs yourself

[ricardo]

Really, I can't understand why they would include handcuffs in the first place. Doesn't that give the biggest tribe 100% control of who plays on the server? Where's the tradeoff?

[StoneTiger]

Originally posted by ricardo:

Really, I can't understand why they would include handcuffs in the first place. Doesn't that give the biggest tribe 100% control of who plays on the server? Where's the tradeoff?

Not really as they can be use on those tribes members easy enough.

And they are made in the smithy cheaply enough. You just need to knock someone out and then put them on them. It seems like it could be a good way to get back at those alpha tribes.

Knock um out. Hand cuff them and put them in a cage or a walled area. Then you have less people to fight. But it's also unfair that you can't eventually get free of them.

[TaintedTango]

I sense a Disturbance in the Force, Almost as if a Million ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ screamed out in Pain all at once...And then Silence.

Maybe try not getting Handcuffed. The people who get to the point where there Capturing Players would Probally prefer a System where there is no Need to Spotcheck on a Handcuffed person every 3 minutes or they can just escape. Your point is Valid yes, But its also way to in Favor of the person who is Captured...The exact opposite reason that the Handcuffs exist dont you think?

[killern00b]

He never said he wants a fast way.
He just wants some way out.

[TaintedTango]

It would be Reasonable to have a timer on the Handcuffs where you can break free from them after 20 minutes of them being on, But any quicker than that is just plain Insulting to any Endgame Players.

Who wants to spend all that time, Locating a player-Knocking them out-Cuffing them-Leading them back to base only to have them Wiggle out and run off into the forest 4 minutes later.

[killern00b]

20 mins is fine, i won´t even bother 30

But thats the point, atm its infinite

[StoneTiger]

Originally posted by TaintedTango:

I sense a Disturbance in the Force, Almost as if a Million ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ screamed out in Pain all at once...And then Silence.

Maybe try not getting Handcuffed. The people who get to the point where there Capturing Players would Probally prefer a System where there is no Need to Spotcheck on a Handcuffed person every 3 minutes or they can just escape. Your point is Valid yes, But its also way to in Favor of the person who is Captured...The exact opposite reason that the Handcuffs exist dont you think?

Well also think about it this way.

Your tribe made one person mad in your tribe you all log off that person come on and handcuffs and cages everyone one. Guess what your stuck that way till you die of thirst and hunger. Makes the game a lit less fun.

And as I said in the OP it doesn't need to be a quick way out. Could take half hour or so. And then you mite still be in a cage anyways ;) and the devs seem to like a bit if grind on things which is fine. So why not on escaping cuffs also?

Just because there are people out there that have reasons to cuff and cage people. There is a lot out there that will do it just to be ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ also and this is a game ment to be fun for more people then just them.

[ricardo]

In order to protect yourself from this, do we all now have to log out dead?

[StoneTiger]

Originally posted by #Sw!zZ.Pii:

Why are you calling them griefers?

"A griefer is a player in a multiplayer video game who deliberately irritates and harasses other players within the game,
^______ that part of it

,using aspects of the game in unintended ways."

This part is another reason people can be called that. Doesn't mean it has to be part of it

It's a mechanic of the game. Not saying that there shouldn't be a way to escape but just stop calling everyone griefer that actually plays PvP.

Where did I call people that play pvp that?? No where just said how it can be use. And I pointed out my experience with it was from my tribe messing with each other. Not for the perspective of people playing pvp. Which I don't on ark. I save that for battlefield


Plus I'm giving constructive criticism on the game which is what being part of a ea game is for. Not everyone has to agree with it. And other are free to add their opinions. But the devs made this game a steam ea to get feed back from the players. Whether they listen to that or not is up to them

[Isiforo.s]

At least you should get the MacGyver engram which you can use to change the handcuffs into something epic like a boat or a bomb.

[StoneTiger]

Originally posted by Spectre🔥:

StoneTiger,

Your originial idea is great, but I would like to elaborate a little on it. Instead of investing skill points and having a slight chance of magically breaking out of the handcuffs; perhaps you have to find the "key" to the handcuffs and use them to set yourself free. Another way of becoming free of the handcuffs could be where someone breaks the handcuffs off of you with an axe or other weapon.

Could be nice. The timer idea so one had is another good one.

For all I care we could magically find a twig(thatch) from the cage and pick the lock. Or maybe after a while of struggling the metal gets weak and breaks.

But for the people cuff in you have a way to reset or block your attempt for a bit.

Not really sure just thought I would get the suggestion out there for the devs incase they haven't thought of it and also get other people's opinion on it

[StoneTiger]

Here is the definition when you google search it
Griefer
A griefer is a player in a multiplayer video game who deliberately irritates and harasses other players within the game, using aspects of the game in unintended ways.[1] A griefer derives pleasure primarily or exclusively from the act of annoying other users, and as such is a particular nuisance in online gaming communities, since griefers often cannot be deterred by penalties related to in-game goals.[2]

And another

grief·er
ˈɡrēfə/
nouninformal
(in an online game or community) a person who harasses or deliberately provokes other players or members in order to spoil their enjoyment.

Just becuase you only want to push a part of the definition that says unintentional use doesn't mean it has to be part of it. That's what the , between sentences is for ;)

Which handcuffs can be used to do. But so can't other stuff.