Too Many Carnivore Animals!

[Shane Brady]

Not sure what everyone else is thinking but am I the only one who thinks there is way to much hostile dinosaurs? Ive been playing ARK for a while and it seems that there is way to many Raptors and those ones that spit the poison in your face around. I personally think they need to make the Carnivore animals less frequent and add more herbivores. I love the game but its irritating that it feels overly populated with dinosaurs that want to eat me.

[Mikel71]

I do believe most of what you see, or just place holders for future dinos

[tomb]

Almost all creatures are place holders while waiting for other creatures to be added. I'm sure you noticed that the "saildogs" made the amount of snakes in the swamp go down, for example.

[Brother Booker]

Advantageous my man - tame them while u can and get your defense up - your base is not as safe as you think - get a good perimeter going and fill it with all these extra raptors in agro while u can

[hawley.kevin]

fffffffffffffffff uuuuuucccccccck those snakes

[Shane Brady]

Well that would explain alot lol, BTW where are the Gallimimus? Havent seen a single one yet.

[The Shaver]

Guess what. Carnivores are on the top Level of the Foodchain, so there are allot of them.
I am certain that back then, it was a harsh environment with Death behind every corner.
So no, i do not think that there are too much Carnivores.

[SmilyChillMan]

Originally posted by Restless_Death:

Well that would explain alot lol, BTW where are the Gallimimus? Havent seen a single one yet.

I think they are more towards half of the island, also chekc out rivers, i found out one there.

[Daethanil]

Actually, top predators are always the smallest population. Energy transfer means that for every pound of meat a top predator eats it gets only 10% of the energy that animal had. So, for example, with the size of the island there should likely never be more than a dozen Rex's, maybe 5-6 Spino (depends on fish population), and a couple Giganoto. Lesser predators like Dilo, Raptor, and Scorps would be more plentiful - but still not as high population as things like Dodo's and Trikes.

[Dr. Sperling]

Originally posted by DerRasierer:

Guess what. Carnivores are on the top Level of the Foodchain, so there are allot of them.
I am certain that back then, it was a harsh environment with Death behind every corner.
So no, i do not think that there are too much Carnivores.

It's the other way around. Read what Daethanil said.

I agree, there should be many more herbivores than carnivores on this island, also they should fight each other, hordes of friendly rexes, carnos and raptors chilling and chomping together makes zero sense

[Brother Booker]

Originally posted by Restless_Death:

Well that would explain alot lol, BTW where are the Gallimimus? Havent seen a single one yet.

They spawn following our river E into the island a few mins well before u hit the second waterfall

[WerWulf]

Depends where you are. The game even states that bigger meaner dinos live towards the center and North of the Island. Dilosaurs are only dangerous in huge packs. Wouldnt be a survival game if you didnt have competition.

[Iron Breaker]

Originally posted by Restless_Death:

Not sure what everyone else is thinking but am I the only one who thinks there is way to much hostile dinosaurs? Ive been playing ARK for ages and it seems that there is way to many Raptors and those ones that spit the poison in your face around. I personally think they need to make the Carnivore animals less frequent and add more herbivores. I love the game but its irritating that it feels overly populated with dinosaurs that want to eat me.

imo most herbivores are USELESS they either are not viable for farming or combat making it even worse your taming options are carnicore egg kibble or 5,000 mejo berries :/

[JaviPapi]

Originally posted by DerRasierer:

Guess what. Carnivores are on the top Level of the Foodchain, so there are allot of them.
I am certain that back then, it was a harsh environment with Death behind every corner.
So no, i do not think that there are too much Carnivores.

I don't think you understand how ecology works :p

Daethanil explains it quite well, except for a few things. If we are looking at this from IRL point of view (which is stupid, because it's a game, but you kind of did so yourself, so I'm just following your line of reasoning), none of this would be able to exist in an ecological sense.

Giganotosaurus, T-rex, Carnotaurs and Allosaurus living side by side would never work, much less in the numbers they are present (something the size of the Island would perhaps support 1-2 T-rexes. The way it goes is that a creature needs to fill an ecological niche in order to survive, and it needs to do this better than other, similar creatures.

The reason for instance, that lions, leopards and cheetahs can co-exist, is that they hunt somewhat different prey, in different manners. Lions hunt in prides, leopards stash away their kills in trees and cheetahs can catch the smaller, faster gazelles, and can easily outrun the other, larger predators.

If we take one of the upcoming creatures as an example, the shortfaced bear. The Shortfaced bear lived in a time with other types of bears, smaller in size, much like black bears and brown bears (and sometimes polar bears) live in close proximity to each other. The reason this was possible, is that they filled out different roles, and could therefore survive. While the shortfaced bear was bigger than its bear buddies, it didn't matter much because it probably had a largely meatbased diet (such as the polar bear), whereas the other bears were omnivores, eating berries, grass, insects and meat. Thus, when the larger prey went extinct due to overhunting or whathaveyou, so did the shortfaced bear.

And like Daethanil puts it, there are always far fewer predators than there are prey. This is true both in terms of species variety, and in pure numbers. The way the Island is populated now, it would take a few weeks at most for everything to go re-extinct.

[Shane Brady]

Im not a programmer or anything so i cant complain on the work they have done becuase it is really impressive. But if they boosted the numbers of Trike and the other common herbivores then everything would feel much more realistic. And hopefully soon the T-rex and the Spinos and other similar dinosaurs would become much much rarer.

[Shane Brady]

Add me if you need someone who plays ark, Im on all the time :D