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Alternative Dinos for The Island Boss Fights: Underdog Edition
Hello everyone. You may remember me from classics such as Alternative Dinos for The Island Bosses or Why is that hippo flying while grappling with a dragon-horse?
To get straight to the point, recently, I've gotten board waiting and a desire to start from scratch but don't want to start when Genesis is (maybe (hopefully (I can dream, ok?))) going to release soon. (tm)
As a result, and due to a request from someone else, I've decided to test some more creatures against the bosses while I wait. Specifically, I plan on looking at the creatures which you would normally consider not-at-all viable for boss fighs, if you'd even think about them at all.

A list of dinos I currently plan on getting brutally slaughtered pitting against the bosses can be seen here:
-Daeodon (as a whole team, not just the one or two which are sometimes brought) -Done x2
-Raptor -Done
-Direwolf -Done (rematch pending)
-Sarco -Done
-Bary -Done
-Arthropluera (I wonder if boss projectiles do extra damage, probably) -Done
-Beelzebufo -Done
-Carbonemys -Done
-Casteroids -Done
-Enforcer -Undonable
-Gasbags -Done
-Hyenadon -Done (maybe)
-Gacha -Done
Added:
-Thyla -Undoable
-Carno -Done
-Direbear -Done
-Anky -Done
-Mantis -Done
-Kentro -Done
-Trike -Done
-Ravager -Done
-Sabertooth -Done
-Rhino -Done
-Deinonychus -Done
-Rollrat -Done
-Puminoscorpion -Done
-Chalico -Done
-Doedicurus -Done
-Dimetrodon -Done
I'll also take requests any requests and/or add some more late, not necessarily after I finish my current list.
Needless to say, I do not expect many of them to do well, but I'm curious to see if there are any hidden gems among them.

In each test, I'll take 19 of the dino I'm testing and 1 yuty. I will not do anything with the yuty but sit next to the boss and courage roar. The only things doing damage will be the dinos I'm testing, the boss, and its minions.
Unless otherwise stated, every testee will be a perfect tamed level 150 dino, so its tamed level will be 225. I'll then give it 3000 experience, which is enough for 24 extra levels, which I'll distribute into hp and damage as I see fit and post the stats along with the test. I'll also give them all 60 armor saddles (or something close, getting an exact number is difficult, but it'll be with 1 armor point of 60.) I'll also give them an imprint value of 75%. This should make the dinos moderately strong but far from the strongest you could get from them, so they should be within reach for casual players. I'll then clone the testee 18 times and throw them at a boss.
This will be done on a test server I made specifically for this. The max level is set to 150 to match official servers and has no changed settings except for:
-Higher stack size for raw meat to fill the daeodons in a reasonable time frame
-Structures Plus for the cloning chamber and transmitter
-Sped up cloning times and decreased cloning costs

Some notes before I begin:
-The last time I did this, it took several days. It takes time to spawn and set up the teams and whatnot. Don't expect me to be done within an hour.
-If, by some miracle, Genesis actually gets released before I finish this, I will most likely abandon this.
-The tek atv will push dropped items with a lot of force. This has no relevance but I spawned an atv on accident on top of dropped items and felt the need to let everyone know about it.
Last edited by Chaser the Tiny Hippo; Jan 28, 2020 @ 11:05am
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Serangel Jan 21, 2020 @ 5:20am 
Originally posted by Lord Gwyn:
I dont see them on the list soo...
Maybe kentros?
These monsters can have alot of hp
And that damage reflect.
Maybe they have a chance vs gamma monkey/broodmother

I dont think the reflect will work. We tried on King titan and they just got splattered and did no damage. It's possible they will work on the other bosses but I'm not optimistic about it.
Smaugi Jan 21, 2020 @ 5:21am 
Originally posted by Serangel:
Originally posted by Lord Gwyn:
I dont see them on the list soo...
Maybe kentros?
These monsters can have alot of hp
And that damage reflect.
Maybe they have a chance vs gamma monkey/broodmother

I dont think the reflect will work. We tried on King titan and they just got splattered and did no damage. It's possible they will work on the other bosses but I'm not optimistic about it.
It works on bosses but King titan's damage is white (its not his DMG) so It dosent work.
Last edited by Smaugi; Jan 21, 2020 @ 5:22am
Serangel Jan 21, 2020 @ 5:23am 
Originally posted by Lord Gwyn:
Originally posted by Serangel:

I dont think the reflect will work. We tried on King titan and they just got splattered and did no damage. It's possible they will work on the other bosses but I'm not optimistic about it.
It works on bosses but King titan's damage is white (its not his DMG) so It dosent work.

Makes sense.
KippenKaasBaas Jan 21, 2020 @ 6:53am 
Common professor, I need those test results!
Originally posted by Lord Gwyn:
I dont see them on the list soo...
Maybe kentros?
These monsters can have alot of hp
And that damage reflect.
Maybe they have a chance vs gamma monkey/broodmother
Ooo sure! I wonder how those will do.
I wonder how Remi would fight bosses.
Originally posted by KippenKaasBaas:
Common professor, I need those test results!
Oy oy oy oy oy oy I do things besides Ark. Sometimes. Occasionally.
I'm about to get back at it though
KippenKaasBaas Jan 21, 2020 @ 8:10am 
Originally posted by Chaser the Tiny Hippo:
Originally posted by Lord Gwyn:
I dont see them on the list soo...
Maybe kentros?
These monsters can have alot of hp
And that damage reflect.
Maybe they have a chance vs gamma monkey/broodmother
Ooo sure! I wonder how those will do.
I wonder how Remi would fight bosses.
Originally posted by KippenKaasBaas:
Common professor, I need those test results!
Oy oy oy oy oy oy I do things besides Ark. Sometimes. Occasionally.
I'm about to get back at it though

Finally. I've been sitting behind my computer for 17 hours refreshing this page and hoping for news.
Originally posted by KippenKaasBaas:
Originally posted by Chaser the Tiny Hippo:
Ooo sure! I wonder how those will do.
I wonder how Remi would fight bosses.

Oy oy oy oy oy oy I do things besides Ark. Sometimes. Occasionally.
I'm about to get back at it though

Finally. I've been sitting behind my computer for 17 hours refreshing this page and hoping for news.
Oh? Maybe I should wait 17 hours to start again
KippenKaasBaas Jan 21, 2020 @ 8:16am 
Originally posted by Chaser the Tiny Hippo:
Originally posted by KippenKaasBaas:

Finally. I've been sitting behind my computer for 17 hours refreshing this page and hoping for news.
Oh? Maybe I should wait 17 hours to start again

Lol sorry for the sarcasm. Take all the time you need.
Originally posted by KippenKaasBaas:
Originally posted by Chaser the Tiny Hippo:
Oh? Maybe I should wait 17 hours to start again

Lol sorry for the sarcasm. Take all the time you need.
17 more hours it is then :D

Also, I went and checked the atv vs two titans earlier today and forgot to post about it, so I'll do that now.
The atv has no collision with creatures. As such, it fell straight through the Desert Titan
When fighting the forest titan, I discovered that it's not projectiles that damage the atv, but something else. Probably explosive-type damage I'd guess. The point is, the titan stepped on me twice and the atv broke.
I wonder how it acts in water. Can it be grabbed by squids? I'd guess it's immune to the demon jellies since it's immune to all other debuffs.
KippenKaasBaas Jan 21, 2020 @ 8:24am 
Originally posted by Chaser the Tiny Hippo:
Originally posted by KippenKaasBaas:

Lol sorry for the sarcasm. Take all the time you need.
17 more hours it is then :D

Also, I went and checked the atv vs two titans earlier today and forgot to post about it, so I'll do that now.
The atv has no collision with creatures. As such, it fell straight through the Desert Titan
When fighting the forest titan, I discovered that it's not projectiles that damage the atv, but something else. Probably explosive-type damage I'd guess. The point is, the titan stepped on me twice and the atv broke.
I wonder how it acts in water. Can it be grabbed by squids? I'd guess it's immune to the demon jellies since it's immune to all other debuffs.

You can't drive it in water tho. So not that useful.
Mantis
More bugs, but this time they get swords.
Stats:
-Health: 3066.3
-Damage: 324.3
-Saddle: 59.6
-Sword Damage: 300.2%

Gamma Gorilla
There were 6 losses, and the boss was at half health before the first loss. Conclusion: With great swords or better saddles or better mantises this could be possible with no losses.
The survivors have anywhere from 400 to 2000 health remaining. Interestingly, one of the swords broke while the others still have a full bar.

Gamma Broodmother
Death messages started appearing less than 1 minute in, and the full wipe was at 1.5 minutes in. The broodmother still had 5/6s of its health left. I think this is the biggest failure so far.

I must say though... Watching the mantises get knocked back and then pounce back onto the gorilla was a bit terrifying.
Last edited by Chaser the Tiny Hippo; Jan 21, 2020 @ 8:59am
Originally posted by KippenKaasBaas:
Originally posted by Chaser the Tiny Hippo:
17 more hours it is then :D

Also, I went and checked the atv vs two titans earlier today and forgot to post about it, so I'll do that now.
The atv has no collision with creatures. As such, it fell straight through the Desert Titan
When fighting the forest titan, I discovered that it's not projectiles that damage the atv, but something else. Probably explosive-type damage I'd guess. The point is, the titan stepped on me twice and the atv broke.
I wonder how it acts in water. Can it be grabbed by squids? I'd guess it's immune to the demon jellies since it's immune to all other debuffs.

You can't drive it in water tho. So not that useful.
Lame
Lordbufu Jan 21, 2020 @ 8:47am 
Originally posted by Chaser the Tiny Hippo:
Originally posted by KippenKaasBaas:

You can't drive it in water tho. So not that useful.
Lame

Ikr, its an Armored Terrain Vehicle, water is also terrain ... o wait ... ><
Last edited by Lordbufu; Jan 21, 2020 @ 8:48am
Originally posted by Lordbufu:
Originally posted by Chaser the Tiny Hippo:
Lame

Ikr, its an Armored Terrain Vehicle, water is also terrain ... o wait ... ><
Well there's terrain under the water though.
I just want to drive a buggy buggy underwater. Is that too much to ask for?
Also the mantises are finished, I'll try the kentros next and then I think I'll give the warpigs a rematch.
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