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Broodmother strategy's ?
Hey guys i got a good few hours 1k+ in game now and still struggling to understand strategy to fighting bosses i been told for brood mother megathirum yuty and daodon are good but what stats am i aiming for in each of these creatures and how many do i need and like do i need to tame things at 150 or can do i do level 90's and up breed them for boss fights thanks in advance
Originally posted by Serangel:
As close to 150 as possible is advised though the tames level isn't all that should be considered. You can tame a 150 rex, but if it gets low stats in health and melee, you might as well have a 90. Tame as many 140-150s as you can then pick out the best stats to be the originals for your breeding line. Generally saddled generation 1 tames can handle gamma bosses, TIs dragon probably can't. Most beta bosses can be done with gen 1 tames if you have insane saddles, 200+ armor. For alphas you'll need some mutated tames. Gen 1 just won't have the health and damage.

Broodmother specifically is a dps race. She doesn't have alot of health but does more raw damage than any other boss, only the dragons engulf does more. Gen 1 with decent stats and just primitive saddles will kill her, if you have amazing saddles, you can kill beta, for alpha though, you need decent saddles and high base stats. Atleast health and melee in the 50s. You could probably get away with lower and great saddles, but you'll definitely loose some of your tames. We did alpha brood with 54 health and 84 melee rexes and all of the ones with primitive saddles died.
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zerassar Jan 15, 2020 @ 2:10pm 
Always try to find tames as close to 150 as you can.

A daeodon isn't necessary as mega can heal themselves with cakes. The yuty should not be directly in combat.

Don't worry too much about stats for the gamma. But get breeding asap for better
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Serangel Jan 15, 2020 @ 2:54pm 
As close to 150 as possible is advised though the tames level isn't all that should be considered. You can tame a 150 rex, but if it gets low stats in health and melee, you might as well have a 90. Tame as many 140-150s as you can then pick out the best stats to be the originals for your breeding line. Generally saddled generation 1 tames can handle gamma bosses, TIs dragon probably can't. Most beta bosses can be done with gen 1 tames if you have insane saddles, 200+ armor. For alphas you'll need some mutated tames. Gen 1 just won't have the health and damage.

Broodmother specifically is a dps race. She doesn't have alot of health but does more raw damage than any other boss, only the dragons engulf does more. Gen 1 with decent stats and just primitive saddles will kill her, if you have amazing saddles, you can kill beta, for alpha though, you need decent saddles and high base stats. Atleast health and melee in the 50s. You could probably get away with lower and great saddles, but you'll definitely loose some of your tames. We did alpha brood with 54 health and 84 melee rexes and all of the ones with primitive saddles died.
Cobretti Jan 15, 2020 @ 5:32pm 
Gamma Brood can be done with high level tamed rexes on prim saddles no breeding needed. I've done beta with that raid comp too but some died.

I go 20k hp and rest melee + 1 yuty which I ride and scream at the rexes. I find Daedon useless. I use them post fight to heal the team so I can go again. I used to go 30k hp but I found I would finish gamma with too much hp.

Bear in mind that while prepping this team you are likely breeding your next team of rexes or mega and they will be doing beta / alpha so don't sit there waiting to breed just to do gamma.

Strategy: I put the rexes in a tame group and as soon as we port in I mount the first rex I can, tell the rex tame group to attack my target. Once they move, the yuty will be left so just mount it and go scream at them.

To maximise kill time you can use 2 tame groups and move to flank her as your first action then attack and pretty much the whole team will be hitting her.

Important to understand many different ways to do this so just go with what you got especially for gamma. Alpha is nice if you have mega
Last edited by Cobretti; Jan 15, 2020 @ 5:33pm
The Slender Devil Jan 16, 2020 @ 1:03am 
thanks guys that's exsacly info i needed and details :lunar2019coolpig:
ZorTheCruel Jan 16, 2020 @ 9:25am 
Rexes definitely have cool factor, but if you are breeding up for fighting all of the Bosses on the Island, you might consider taming and breeding Therizinos instead of rexes. (if you plan to work your way up to alpha boss fights) Because rexes are garbage against alpha dragon, Therizinos are much better vs Dragon, and both dinos can easily handle the Megapithicus. I bred rexes and it worked great up until dragon fights. Got my Rex boss army decimated multiple times against alpha dragon and had to start from scratch with breeding up Therizinos to beat alpha dragon.

(this is a moot point if you only plan to fight the bosses on Gamma level which is the easiest. You can use practically any beefy good damage dinos vs gamma megapiticus and gamma broodmother.)
Nokim Jan 16, 2020 @ 10:25am 
about dino choice. i dont think it really matters.Just tame them max lvl and breed what you need. after that the MOST important part is the quality of your saddles. but if you are going to solo what probably matters 2nd is your own personal ride. Healing pig vs yuti.

for dragon, deadon for sure. for anything else probably yuti.

i did everything up to tek cave just using rexes but i did have near max armor saddles. i didnt even bother with the gamma or beta versions. since i was breeding max lvl tek rex with basically max armor saddles. I pretty much plowed thru everything except dragon.

Even the tek cave is cake compared to the islands dragon.

if you want an easier dragon fight,do the dragon on another map like Rag.
Veeshan Jan 16, 2020 @ 11:20am 
Originally posted by ZorTheCruel:
Rexes definitely have cool factor, but if you are breeding up for fighting all of the Bosses on the Island, you might consider taming and breeding Therizinos instead of rexes. (if you plan to work your way up to alpha boss fights) Because rexes are garbage against alpha dragon, Therizinos are much better vs Dragon, and both dinos can easily handle the Megapithicus. I bred rexes and it worked great up until dragon fights. Got my Rex boss army decimated multiple times against alpha dragon and had to start from scratch with breeding up Therizinos to beat alpha dragon.

(this is a moot point if you only plan to fight the bosses on Gamma level which is the easiest. You can use practically any beefy good damage dinos vs gamma megapiticus and gamma broodmother.)
I'm facing this decision right this moment. What's the difference between alpha and gamma in terms of completion? Bonus engrams? Extra levels? Just more element or whatever? I assume Overseer can be fought without doing alpha?
Lordbufu Jan 16, 2020 @ 11:35am 
Originally posted by Veeshan:
I'm facing this decision right this moment. What's the difference between alpha and gamma in terms of completion? Bonus engrams? Extra levels? Just more element or whatever? I assume Overseer can be fought without doing alpha?

You unlock other engrams for each difficulty, best consult the wiki for the exact details on that.
You do get previous unlock for beating higher difficulties, so technically you would only "need" to do Alpha to get all the unlocks, you would only miss out on a flag and head.

You can also only fight the overseer of the difficulty bosses you have killed, so iff you kill all Alpha's you can fight the Alpha overseer.
This one give the bonus levels in terms of ascention, beating Alpha give you all the rewards at once like the other bosses.
Originally posted by Veeshan:
I'm facing this decision right this moment. What's the difference between alpha and gamma in terms of completion? Bonus engrams? Extra levels? Just more element or whatever? I assume Overseer can be fought without doing alpha?
Beta will give more tekgrams and element than gamma will, and alpha gives more than beta.
If you want all the tekgrams, you need to do alpha fights.
The overseer can be fought at any level so long as you've killed the other bosses at at least that level. If you kill the 3 bosses at gamma, then you can fight the gamma overseer. If you kill them at beta, then you can fight the beta overseer, and if you kill the bosses at alpha difficulty, then you can fight the alpha overseer..
The difficulty you beat the overseer on will raise your level cap as well. Gamma will give you 5 more levels, beta gives 10, and alpha gives 15.
Veeshan Jan 16, 2020 @ 12:16pm 
Cool. Guess I'm fighting alpha bosses then. Oh boy.
Nokim Jan 16, 2020 @ 12:35pm 
Originally posted by Veeshan:
Cool. Guess I'm fighting alpha bosses then. Oh boy.

honestly unless you want the heads and the flags id say skip to alpha on everything except the dragon. due to lava area the dragon can be difficult and a bit of a learning curve if you arent used to whistle commands. so doing like gamma of it might help to understand how to manage your dinos.all others as long as you got good lvls and saddles, just set them rexes/therys loose and have a sandwich while they do their thing.

tek cave even though its the last "boss" is super easy even on alpha. its just time consuming to clear all the crap in the cave to get to the boss.
ZorTheCruel Jan 16, 2020 @ 1:15pm 
Originally posted by Veeshan:
Cool. Guess I'm fighting alpha bosses then. Oh boy.

From easiest to hardest (for The Island)
Megapithicus > Broodmother > Dragon

The dragon especially is the biggest difficulty jump, due to the arena being crisscrossed by little rivers of lava and the alpha dragon has a 20% of max health damage attack it can do that ignores armor. And it is AOE. And it has a ranged fireball attack that can one-shot you while you are riding a dino. But dont focus on the worst part, fight the megapithicus a bunch to level up those rexes or therizinos to be beasts. The Alpha Megapiticus is still easier than Gamma dragon. So wail on the monkey till you get confident you can try the spider, beating the two of them will get you a lot of tekgram unlocks and element, and fun flags you can post up around your base to make yourself feel like a boss boss killer. But know that the Dragon has humbled many and is never to be taken lightly, lol. I wouldn't even try beta dragon until you can kill alpha monkey with no losses and alpha spider with little to no losses.

Do a forum search for alpha dragon and see all the peeps like me that had devastating losses, before we squeaked out a win, lol.
Last edited by ZorTheCruel; Jan 16, 2020 @ 1:23pm
The Slender Devil Jan 19, 2020 @ 12:09am 
oh wow so this dragon is a force to wreaken with being harder on gamma then even bosses before on alpha kinda wild to think that but i've done some work got some 224's on some megathriums pushing 384.9% melee and like 5800hp and 1500ish stam feel like that's fairly good from working with 135 and under wild tames it's hard to find the 150 wilds on island same with rexes very rarely seeing anything over 95 but when we do we go snag it to think some of you are saying theri's to for dragon hopefully thous are egg births not live birth like megathirums this process is taking forever but hopefully some one can reply let me know if thous numbers are good enough for gamma beta and alpha brood mother or do i need focus on what stat to raise
zerassar Jan 19, 2020 @ 12:12am 
Originally posted by Krucked:
oh wow so this dragon is a force to wreaken with
"To be reckoned with" ;-)

But yeh the dragon will ♥♥♥♥ you up. Its mainly the flame buff that it does. like 25% Health hit. So even your highest health dino still loses 25% each time it gets the buff.
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