ARK PvP: Advanced Pirate Ships/Boats/Rafts for RAIDING!

[TrenchCowboy]

Please tell me what you think?

https://youtu.be/qgISsIH4UEE

[Captain Jack]

Hmm i tried that for a long time, but as long as they dont fix collisions all is in vain.

The trolls glitch into your rafts and take out the turrets by taking out the fertilizer from the crops without danger or piking them without danger.

Or they hover with quetzal beside your raft and cata/rocket it down.

Raft is not an option at the moment till the devs end the current alpha troll paradise and give us some defences.

[Captain Jack]

You can also very easily take out the plants on the roof of the left raft bei either C4 bomb drops or a mosa/plesio jumping out of the water with massive AOE damage.

You can also sink both rafts with a few torpedoes (C4-Itchy) "attack my targer"-BOOOM- bye bye war raft.

At the moment rafts are not an option, they are just alpha tribe troll fodder.

And on regular PVP servers you cant build that many structures on a raft.

[TrenchCowboy]

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You can also very easily take out the plants on the roof of the left raft bei either C4 bomb drops or a mosa/plesio jumping out of the water with massive AOE damage.

You can also sink both rafts with a few torpedoes (C4-Itchy) "attack my targer"-BOOOM- bye bye war raft.

At the moment rafts are not an option, they are just alpha tribe troll fodder.

And on regular PVP servers you cant build that many structures on a raft.

You would have to plan for all those counters...This would be hard to counter in real time....

[Klen]

Standard raft can't be a proper base because have a very limited Structure number limit.

[Chop]

a raft with a catwalk strapped with c4 will sink any boat currently. warships are not viable in my opinion, at least not at this time

[Captain Jack]

Haha this one with the catwalk was new to me Chop Sticks, nice trick :-)

And you are right, there is no protection against that exploit.

[JohnM81]

Talono eredeti hozzászólása:

Hmm i tried that for a long time, but as long as they dont fix collisions all is in vain.

The trolls glitch into your rafts and take out the turrets by taking out the fertilizer from the crops without danger or piking them without danger.

Or they hover with quetzal beside your raft and cata/rocket it down.

Raft is not an option at the moment till the devs end the current alpha troll paradise and give us some defences.

Honestly, the C4 laden pig bombs is very hard to do an there is a sorta counter to that. And it ends up being very expensive for attacker. The counter involves using the zone wall.

The bigger problem that you correctly pointed out is using a breach ship that works on the no clip exploit for structures on a raft. After spending dozens of hours on single player testing things I may have found a imperfect solution to this as well. It involves taming a very specific creature in mass and have them on aggressive. They will literally swarm and surround an enemy boat approaching yours trapping it.


But the truth is ARK devs really REALLY need to fix the clipping bug with rafts.

[TrenchCowboy]

Chop Sticks eredeti hozzászólása:

a raft with a catwalk strapped with c4 will sink any boat currently. warships are not viable in my opinion, at least not at this time

Very few can actually stop this....

[JohnM81]

TrenchCowboy eredeti hozzászólása:

Chop Sticks eredeti hozzászólása:

a raft with a catwalk strapped with c4 will sink any boat currently. warships are not viable in my opinion, at least not at this time

Very few can actually stop this....

It is very difficult indeed. And if an enemy is willing to dedicate several breach ships to the cause then its just about impossible. But keep in mind one thing. The biggest strength of a ship is its mobility. Is its ability to NOT be anywhere near the location it was spotted the day before by a tribe that wants to sink it.

No Breach ship can sink what isn't there....

[JohnM81]

idneon357 eredeti hozzászólása:

Chop Sticks eredeti hozzászólása:

a raft with a catwalk strapped with c4 will sink any boat currently. warships are not viable in my opinion, at least not at this time

Dude a raft with a long plank with c4 will take out any base on the coast. You're not thinking far enough ahead.

Boats don't just "glitch" through each other, they glitch through ANY structure. Their object size is only equal to the tiller.

You make a very good point that not many consider. Many of the same weaknesses boats have, any coastal land base has as well thus equaling out.

[TrenchCowboy]

Keep in mind...any defense towards these boats would have to be prepped. It would take at least 3 organized enemines two disable both boths while avoiding all other aspects of the raid...When we raid...we go hard...please view some of my raids...