Swamp and Snow Cave Loot Feedback

[Wolf]

Hellow fellow survivors!
I just spent an hour in singleplayer exploring the caves and finding out everything about their dangers / loots.

The danger levels in those caves are great, i love it! So the feedback will focus mostly on loot, because... the loot sucks. hard.

Let me quote the "ARK: Eggcellent Adventure & The Swamp and Snow Caves" Sticky thread:

Opprinnelig skrevet av Sticky:

Patch 237 also introduces the much anticipated challenging new Swamp and Snow Caves, which are heavily-geared towards High Level Survivors, containing high-end loot, advanced artifacts, and more clues towards the mysterious Origins of the ARK!

This quote contains 3 pieces of informations:

1) The new caves will be hard and only doable by endgame survivors.
Thats true. you need good weapons, and good fur/ghilie/scuba gear if you want to have a chance.
Thats good! We needed some challenging PvE Content!

2) They contain high-end loot.
Thats sadly not true at all! i will post screenshots and explenations below.

3) they got "advanced artifacts"
well. the artifacts look cool, but i dont see how they are "advanced"

Artifacts

Left snow, right swamp cave artifact.

Also Jat said this about the loot crates:

Opprinnelig skrevet av Jat:

These loot drops are unique

Please keep the above quotes in mind whilest reading my feedback on the loot below.

Each cave has three loot drops, i looted them each 2 times (so 12 lootes in total) and took screenshots of 9 loots.

In each cave was a blue crate, accessible at lv 25
Proof

The 3 Blue loot crates i screened contained the following:

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The loot is appropiate for lv 25, but their is one question you all should be asking right now:
Why are their lv 25 loot crates with lv 25 loots in a cave which you can only access with endgame equipment because of hazards (extreme cold/heat/gas) and wild lv 200+ creatures?

This shouldnt be their at all, but sadly it doesnt get better!

Lets move on to the yellow loot crates, those are openable at lv 40

Proof

The 3 i looted contained the following stuff:

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Let alone the fact that a lv 40 lootdrop shouldnt be in the cave at all, the hide shirt proofes that those loot drops function the same as the overworld beacons, e.g. you can find anything from a blue loot drop in a yellow / red one, isnt that fun??

Speaking of the red ones: their is something weird with them.

The ones in the snow caves are openable at 55, whereas the ones in the swamp cave are openable at 70. A bug i guess?

Swamp Proof

Snow Proof

Lets move on to the loot shall we? and boy you guys are not gonna be happy.

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Behold, the most high end of loot. a blueprint for a laser attachment. you all wanted this right?

2

Behold! An already finished laser attachment. boy o boy.

3

I guess those are ok? but we already can find better ones in the deep sea lootcrates (and with much less danger of dying)

So do you guys remember the quotes above?

Thats no high end loot sadly.

I really like that you guys made challenging PvE Content for the endgame people like me, but currently their doesnt seem to be a reason to risk your life / gear to go inside (besides the nice looking artifacts)

So my plea to the devs: fix this problem ASAP. no one wants lv 25 / 40 loot in their. Nothing you said about these loot drops is true (neither high end, nor "unique")

Fellow survivors, please bring this feedback to the attention of the devs, we need this fixed.

TL;DR: Caves look great, are incredibly hard and drop bad loot (e.g. lv 25 stuff in ramshackel/apprentince/journey)

[DeadJukez | TTV]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Midjit Thud:

Somtimes a little bit of there time (30 seconds) to say "working as intended" will save 100's of users alot of wasted time.

Or thousands. There's more people that aren't posting about it that get annoyed about it. And out of 50,000+ total players daily, I sure a few thousand get annoyed by it

[Arkbird]

Its garbage in those caves. i did both in single player to try it out before i wasted time on the server. Glad i did. Got useless things from them both. GPS blueprint, raptor saddle blueprint, rocket ammo blueprint, hide shirt blueprint, cloth shirt non blueprint. Don't waste your time gathering blueprints in those caves you will be very disappointed. Only going to bother with the caves for the artifacts' sake.

[Midjit Thud]

Which you will need to summon broodmother now... Cool right? ...... not.

[Neiara]

Results definitely vary. I've done the swamp cave multiple times now (bred and raised a high level wolf inside) and have gotten things like a metal wall blueprint... But also master craft flak chest, ascendant argy saddle, ascendant Carno saddle bp and apprentice araneo saddle. One of my friends got an ascendant Rex.

For the snow cave, I've gotten a master craft frog saddle bp, journeyman scuba flippers bp and... An apprentice hide shirt.

[SireSteelHell]

Friggin usless drops, most my "endgame" equipment broken in need of expensive repairs and all we got was an ap bp for a hide boot? .... why bother?

[SireSteelHell]

anyone find anything good yet?

[MADxHAWK [GER]]

Only if you think an apprentice stone pick is use full or a ramshackle slingshot

[Midjit Thud]

They loot isn't worth crap, if they plan on making worth crap in the future they got some work to do. I wish they would stop giving false info about ♥♥♥♥ though. Could have just as easly said "in the future the drops will be unique and good" or something

[Wolf]

I am still shocked that no dev / community manager / anyone from wildcard said ANYTHING about the issue. Can someone please give us any information? are the caves really supposed to have that much variety of loot? or is this just a test for feedback? is it a bug? any respond from the devs would be awesome, because currently their isnt really much reason to do the cave (lots of preperation for most likely no reward)

[Wolf]

i mind wiped on every loot crate to see the lv requirement. and then quickly lvled back up

[Wolf]

first time cave on official server we just did with mastercraft pump action shotguns, and about 700 ammo^^ we are now trying breeding stuff inside the cave, to conserve materials. had just a normal specc. the screenshots above are from singleplayer just to check what loot drops. (aka with cheats)

[123]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Wolf:

first time cave on official server we just did with mastercraft pump action shotguns, and about 700 ammo^^ we are now trying breeding stuff inside the cave, to conserve materials. had just a normal specc. the screenshots above are from singleplayer just to check what loot drops. (aka with cheats)

You are lucky man, Me too play in official server, what I get: C4, C4 Detonetor, Cloth blueprint, Hide Shirt(blue). But we dont bother abt loot, Artifact loot is our main motto.

[Scotty]

Like someone earlier, I have also raised a high level wolf in the swamp cave. I've been farming the drops since day 1, but since the holiday event patch it seems they have become more useless than normal. First few days I ended up with several ascendant saddle bp's. The red loot crates respawned very fast as well.

Now it takes the red crates an extremely long time to respawn, which is fine since they sometimes provide 2 or 3 items at once... but it seems the red crates are now only giving very low end items you can find topside much easier. For example, we have ended up with 4 gps blueprints, at least 9 remote keypad blueprints, countless bullet blueprints, a metal window blueprint, etc.

I've gotten better items from the blue crate in the first chamber to the right; apprentice leather gear bps, apprentice saddle bps, etc. Have NEVER seen gps bps, keypad bps or any bullet bps from the blue.

I haven't gotten a single worthwhile item from the red crates in 2 days. No mastercraft bps of any kind, no ascendent bps of any kind, nothing worth having for end-game players.

Also, day 1 and 2 we saw a yellow/gold loot crate spawn on the ledge above the second pool. No loot crate of any colour has spawned in this area since then. The yellow/gold crate that spawns at the edge of the second pool is also AWOL.


I love the difficulty of the caves. I enjoyed the challenge before the wolf, and still enjoy it with the wolf. But the loot tables are extremely disappointing. You've battled your way to the final tunnel, see that red crate in the distance, spend another 30 minutes getting through scorps and spiders in that chamber, only to loot a gps bp? Truly disheartening.

Loot rotation is fine; saddles, blueprints, gear, accessories, etc.... but low quality stuff should NOT even be on the loot table of a cave that has level 356 meganeura in groups of 30.

[Neiara]

I agree that getting a gps (not even the bp), c4 detonator etc. is ridiculous. If I wanted these things I'd run land drops. I get plenty along with other useless bps from yellow and red.

[Scotty]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Scotty ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ:

I haven't gotten a single worthwhile item from the red crates in 2 days. No mastercraft bps of any kind, no ascendent bps of any kind, nothing worth having for end-game players.

Also, day 1 and 2 we saw a yellow/gold loot crate spawn on the ledge above the second pool. No loot crate of any colour has spawned in this area since then. The yellow/gold crate that spawns at the edge of the second pool is also AWOL.

Haven't seen anything mentioned in the patch notes and multiple mini-patches they have put through since I last posted, however today's run of the swamp cave showed the return of the yellow/gold loot crates on the upper ledge and edge of the second pool. Whether it's coincidental or not, I can't say - however I do know for a fact the cave is NOT being cleared often enough by other players/tribes on my particular server to skew crate spawns.

Looted multiple reds. Got 1 mastercraft megalodon saddle, a PRIMITIVE bronto saddle, and the same crap blueprints for gps, c4 remotes, metal window frames, etc.