How much will Ark 2 cost now that it isn't bundled with ASA?

[Chrius]

Because before, the total cost would be 90$ (50$ for the bundle + 40$ for the expansion packs).

I'm pretty much sure Ark 2 will not cost 30$...

So unless I'm wrong, you lied to everyone, charged for a product that was announced to the players as free, and now are charging even more than you were before...

[RedDragonRob]

Guaranteed more than 30$ now.. but they won't announce this til after a year or so closer to launch so ppl will forget they're getting screwed over with this 'Cheaper ARK: SA bundle' LOL
Scummy Misdirection Much WildCard?

[Alucard †]

Community: We don't want to be forced to buy ARK 2 with the remaster! Include all dlcs with the remaster!

*ASA is now separate from ARK2 and includes all dlcs - and for those who only want ASA + DLCs the deal is generally cheaper than before*

Community: How dare you make us buy ASA without including ARK2

[Chrius]

Originally posted by ⎛ Alucard ⎞ ✟:

Community: We don't want to be forced to buy ARK 2 with the remaster! Include all dlcs with the remaster!

*ASA is now separate from ARK2 and includes all dlcs - and for those who only want ASA + DLCs the deal is generally cheaper than before*

Community: How dare you make us buy ASA without including ARK2

You should probably read the topic before replying...

[Alucard †]

Originally posted by Chrius:

Originally posted by ⎛ Alucard ⎞ ✟:

Community: We don't want to be forced to buy ARK 2 with the remaster! Include all dlcs with the remaster!

*ASA is now separate from ARK2 and includes all dlcs - and for those who only want ASA + DLCs the deal is generally cheaper than before*

Community: How dare you make us buy ASA without including ARK2

You should probably read the topic before replying...

I did and the last bit in the OP is complaining about ASA being more expensive now cause it doesn't include ARK2 anymore.

And it makes me laugh cause prior to this CC i seen a lot of comments complaining about being forced to buy ARK2 which most who are interested in ASA didn't seem to want and also demanded dlcs to be included.

That's what Wildcard did.
ASA is now separate and includes dlcs and those who didn't want ARK2 bundled in. Pay 60 bucks for ASA plus dlcs instead 90.

But now people are coming out of the woodwork complaining about ARK2 not being included with ASA and claim they are being ripped off.

It's comedy gold ^^

[RedDragonRob]

Some people don't read between the lines in the Community Crunch very well either..

"We plan to support ARK: Survival Ascended with new features (including at launch), content drops, creatures, items, structures, and DLC. "

Did we NOT catch that there will be OTHER ASA dlc.. What are the chances those will be
free over the next few years? So we're paying 60 now for an updated version of a game we already paid like 80$ for previously AND we'll be paying ..what.. 20-40$ more for whatever ASA DLC that's on the horizon when this game was supposed to be a pushing off point technology-wise for ARK 2, not beating a dead horse.. ahem. cash cow.. for more money just to make it an 'evergreen experience'.

EDIT: Not to mention.. the fact that Overwolf Modding.. will not necessarily be free mods to the community.. I like how they totally gloss over that fact.

You want a 'premium' ARK: Survival Ascended Modded Experience..? that'll be 4.99$ per mod you want to add to your server now... LOL

[Jack]

Originally posted by RedDragonRob:

Some people don't read between the lines in the Community Crunch very well either..

"We plan to support ARK: Survival Ascended with new features (including at launch), content drops, creatures, items, structures, and DLC. "

Did we NOT catch that there will be OTHER ASA dlc.. What are the chances those will be
free over the next few years? So we're paying 60 now for an updated version of a game we already paid like 100$ for previously AND we'll be paying ..what.. 20-40$ more for whatever ASA DLC that's on the horizon when this game was supposed to be a pushing off point technology-wise for ARK 2, not beating a dead horse.. ahem. cash cow.. for more money just to make it an 'evergreen experience'.

I hate to admit that you make a lot of great points but also...remember that they supported ARK1 with DLC by giving us more FREE DLC than PAID DLC. Not to mention, most consider the FREE DLC better than the PAID DLC. Yes, they are going to ALLOW paid mods/DLC by modders but just like Skyrim, they aren't going to require it. Most likely we will still get many new mods on the level of official DLC all for free just like we did in the current ARK. No reason to panic. But def don't buy their paid DLCs/Mods because plenty of them will be free.

[RedDragonRob]

Most of the "Free DLC" (like 2/3rds of the maps now) were community made.. they just appropriated it for their own use and 'made it official'. They also said they would be going back to popular modders to try to 'upgrade their content' for ASA.. And I'm sure tack on a price tag because some modders (especially of the really popular ones) will want a bit of cash for their time and effort that they never got before.

[Alucard †]

A discount for the remaster (like dark souls devs did for their remaster) or limited giveaway (like bethesda did with special edition) for those who own ARK SE + DLCs would be nice.

But still i just can't help by noticing the irony of the whole situation about ASA being separate from ARK2 and people being angry now.

It was the community who screamed for "being forced to buy ARK 2 to get ASA" and demanded for official remastered dlcs to be included.

Welp ya'll ain't forced to buy ARK2 no more and official dlcs are included in ASA not separate 60 bucks instead 90 plus that pesky Ark Souls 2 that people didn't want.

Art thou not pleased? 😂

[guig]

@ ⎛ Alucard ⎞ ✟: you're cute but honestly seeing your experience with the game you are in no place to speak objectively (I mean you appeared as a total (over active) newbie on forum like what 2 months ago? didn't even know about the wiki 'til last week ?)

no offenses here but you are clearly not experienced enough with wildcard overall commercial policies. all you see is still the wonder of the new becomer. you don't think as a customer who has spent time and fidelity over a program for years.

plus they already admitted they needed that remaster to learn about ue5 so ark 2 won't be a mess. so they are basically selling you a beta pass to an (even more) unpolished game (they don't have 8 years to dedicate to it) for their next game. why not use "early access" as they did before ? why would they ask for Ark 1 ppl to finance Ark 2 if not interested in ?

they made choices for Ark 2, they stick to it, and their playerbase is divided since then. but they want money from all the chickens. that's a problem.

ps : this new "dlc" annoucement on ark 1 but only the remastered version is an clear annoucement of it. genesis 2 was officially the last dlc, they said it. but there was indeed one last "mystery" in the lore, back from extinction. it's all over the place. "Arat Prime". the fanbase hoped for it in gen1, but nope, it's a simulation and... go to hell with Arat Prime.

and if they use that "opportunity" of selling a remaster just to fill in the holes while not being able to even buy it on the original game, sorry but it feels like a finger in the face. and moreover when you think about the new gear requierement to play this "new" game.

[Alucard †]

I don't need 1000+ hours in ARK to notice how funny it is when community demands something to be changed - said thing is changed - community complains that it was changed.

(Also unsure what you mean by the wiki comment.)

Regardless of what Wildcard are this happened time and time before for various game studios.

You can never make everyone happy even if you listen to feedback there will always people who will be unhappy with the changes still.

There is no difference here.

[RedDragonRob]

From someone who's got.. a few hundred hours.. and has only been playing the game for.. what a few months.. Those of us who have been dealing with WildCard since 2015 when ARK was first released to EA(for 25-30) and WHILE IN EA had DLC added for an additional 20$ (Scorched Earth) know the real story how things ACTUALLY go with this studio. So keep your fantasy that you're getting a 'good deal' with these changes.. Time will Tell.

[Alucard †]

Originally posted by RedDragonRob:

Time will Tell.

And with that we can agree on.

[guig]

Originally posted by RedDragonRob:

From someone who's got.. a few hundred hours.. and has only been playing the game for.. what a few months.. Those of us who have been dealing with WildCard since 2015 when ARK was first released to EA(for 25-30) and WHILE IN EA had DLC added for an additional 20$ (Scorched Earth) know the real story how things ACTUALLY go with this studio. So keep your fantasy that you're getting a 'good deal' with these changes.. Time will Tell.

a short backup remind is apparently requiered.

back then wildcard was in a lawsuit with another company because one of its head (I don't remember which one) was not supposed to work in the game company after leaving his/her job (one of those marvelous human rights overwhelming contract in usa, youhou !!)

but the person said "♥♥♥♥ it" and launched ark in early access. then came the lawsuit. Scorched Earth was then announced (faster than they wanted) and it helped finance that. the fanbase indeed invested in it because they did not want another "stomping land" scenario. (but I guess you don't know about stomping land, but for you to know the T-rex glasses in Ark are a reference to it, before some remakes it was only available to ppl who owned stomping land, even if it had disappeared from steam). so yeah even I bought several copies.

what we did not know back then was that they were about to be bought by snailgames. which indeed helped solves the lawsuit with founds and whatsoever and we kept our game.
but now comes the backslash. (it did before but this one is obviously the wildest) just like vivendi killed blizzard games with over micro-payment and poor content, snailgames want to drink the milk out of Ark fanbase, may it be selling it twice.

[RedDragonRob]

BEST FIX:
New Owners: ARK: Survival Ascended 60$
New Owners: ARK 2 40, possibly 50$ (best guesstimate)

Discount for ARK: Survival Ascended for People who own all ARK Survival Evolved content + DLC already. 40$. (or price points inbetween based on missing DLC, 45/50/55)

Discount for ARK 2 for People who buy or own ARK: Survival Ascended (MAXIMUM 30$) We're helping BETA test the ASA UE5 tech for you.. least we can get is a discount.

Some of us have been dedicated players since 2015 and Love this game (even with all the sh*t that's been thrown at us with DLC prices, flip flops on 'free updates' and 'paid versions', etc).. So how bout the Studio showing some love to people that have put their money where their mouth is and give us SOMETHING back with all these next gen changes on the horizon? Worst case scenario? We pay 90 for ARK SA and ARK 2 (like the original Community Crunch post, but prices between the two better split) and BEST CASE we only pay 70$ because we've bought into and love the franchise and have put thousands and thousands of hours into it.

[Alucard †]

Originally posted by RedDragonRob:

BEST FIX:
Discount for ARK: Survival Ascended for People who own all ARK Survival Evolved content + DLC already. 60? No try 40$. (or price points inbetween based on missing DLC, 45/50/55)
Discount for ARK 2 for People who buy or own ARK: Survival Ascended (MAXIMUM 30$)

Well yea i did mention this in post #8 that it would be nice if they did a discount like this.

But i apparently don't have enough ARK hours to even speak of such thing around "all knowing veterans" ^^