ARK: Survival Evolved

ARK: Survival Evolved

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6h0$t942 Jun 11, 2023 @ 5:59pm
Pets discussion
How are the pets in this game? I am looking for something with more depth than Conan in regards to minions. The pets in that game are kinda neat but ultimately get sidelined for other options.
Can you modify the dinosaurs in this game?
Are there supernatural pets?
Can you get better versions of similar monsters?
Are they useful or a novelty?

Also is there a way to avoid the "n@ked stone age no lifer breaks into your house when youre offline" thing? I don't care for someone investing very little being able to do a lot of damage. I know it's the internet but that's the main reason i didn't get into ark
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Neamphy Jun 11, 2023 @ 6:31pm 
okay so the Pets in this game are called 'Tames' since you have to go through the process of knocking them out then feeding them by putting food they like in their inventory while keeping them knocked out until the meter is filled, i recc using the app DODODEX cause every tame in this game has its own use, like some are better at collecting wood, others stone, others berries, etc etc. so pets in this game are basically very large tools that come in diff colors and do diff damage and some of them you can build bases on :). now offline thing if you want to play pvp a lot of Player owned servers have Offline raid protection which will keep you and your stuff safe when logged off, but PVE servers makes raiding and killing other players not a thing
eclipse Jun 11, 2023 @ 7:23pm 
Originally posted by 6h0$t942:
How are the pets in this game?
Can you modify the dinosaurs in this game?
Are there supernatural pets?
Can you get better versions of similar monsters?
Are they useful or a novelty?

Also is there a way to avoid the "n@ked stone age no lifer breaks into your house when youre offline" thing? I don't care for someone investing very little being able to do a lot of damage. I know it's the internet but that's the main reason i didn't get into ark


Ark is a pet game through and through, that is its core really.

You can modify by breeding them and getting mutations for stats or color regions, very time consuming.

Supernatural? Yes

Yes, but the best versions are the ones that are breed for mutation stats (watch a video for a full guide, some chick doing rexes on the tube is what taught me the fastest)

They are the core of the game, you cant even really beat the game without them, you probably can but thats prob like 10x harder, riskier.

Play PVE servers.
william_es Jun 12, 2023 @ 3:24am 
Originally posted by eclipse:


Ark is a pet game through and through, that is its core really.

They are the core of the game, you cant even really beat the game without them, you probably can but thats prob like 10x harder, riskier.

Play PVE servers.

+1 to the above.

The game literally revolves around tamed animals. It's basically pokemon. Not kidding. You catch strange creatures and make them fight for you.

Lot of creatures in ark have weird special abilities. Some make sense, others are completely ludicrous. For example, If you tame an otter and wear it around your neck like a sports towel, it become a portable heater/cooler. There are places in the game so cold that it's literally impossible to survive without an otter around your neck (the higher the better... their heating/cooling scales with their melee stats).

If you're running into a problem playing ark, there's probably a tamed creature that fixes the problem outright, or makes the issue 20 times easier to handle.
retsam1 Jun 12, 2023 @ 5:12am 
Originally posted by 6h0$t942:
How are the pets in this game? I am looking for something with more depth than Conan in regards to minions. The pets in that game are kinda neat but ultimately get sidelined for other options.
Can you modify the dinosaurs in this game?
Are there supernatural pets?
Can you get better versions of similar monsters?
Are they useful or a novelty?

Also is there a way to avoid the "n@ked stone age no lifer breaks into your house when youre offline" thing? I don't care for someone investing very little being able to do a lot of damage. I know it's the internet but that's the main reason i didn't get into ark


Ark is a game 95% focused on needs through having pets. Pets for fighting, defense, resources, and other utilities.

1, Can you modify the dinosaurs in this game?

Yes. You can breed for mutations to make them stronger, leveling them, you can also choose the stat to level up to improve their abilities. You can also craft saddles and other equipment for various dinos to use too.

2. Are there supernatural pets? Ark while being set with lots of dinos, is actually a science fiction game. There are lots of strange creatures that may fit your thinking as "super natural" BUT, because the the game also has griffins, wyverns of various breath weapon types and more, that may satisfy your "supernatural" requirement as well.

3. Can you get better versions of similar monsters? Breeding was already mentioned. Additionally creatures on the maps spawn at different levels. When taming, if its a perfect taming process(you can mess it up) you gain an initial set of bonus levels on a tame and then as you use the tame, they (as mentioned before) gain experience levels). Thus because stats are tied to the level pretame/post tame/ and per level exp earned, yes you can get variations or "better" versions of similar creatures.

Additionally, some maps in the game has variations of creatures. For example there are tech versions of some dinos that have more damage capabilities than their normal dino counter parts, etc.

4. Are they useful or a novelty? Most creatures in the game have some sort of functional use either to kill or to tame for. Some value of use is also going to be determined by your play style and choices too.


If you want to explore the plethora of creatures, use the dododex website and the ark wiki to see the wide array of them available.


And all the creature choices from the game and all 12 dlc's are just part of it. Ark's bread and butter is its modding community and the numbers mods that add all manner of creatures of different themes looks and powers abounds.


5. With over 70,000+ unofficial servers (where the majority of the player base play), you have the choice to play on pve (approximately 55% of the servers), or the pvp/pvpve(limited rulesets determined by the owner for pvp) ones(about the other 45%.

You can also opt to play in single player or make your own server too as with conan of course.



All in all, answers to your questions seem to answer your wants.

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However.... now lets talk about things that may be cons for you.

1. Official servers(which are only 1800ish pvp and pve servers) are shutting down in August. Reason why will be covered in point 2. If official server play is your thing then that's going to not be possible soon. Again the majority of the player base do not play official servers anyway(acknowledged even by the devs) so its really a non issue.

2. Ark Survival Evolved(what this is and short name from here on we'll call as ASE) was built in Unreal Engine 4(like conan). However in August, Studio Wildcard plans to sell an Unreal Engine 5 version of the same game and will call it Ark Survival Ascended (ASA). The current 12 dlc's will be staggered in releases over the last year and a half(or longer potentially). We, as players know little more about what all it will entail or how well it will be received.

3. Also per point 2, it is expected some unofficial servers will stop because the owners will join ASA instead.

4. Also per point 2, some modders plan to stop their mods or support for their mods in ASE due to moving to ASA. ASA is also going to allow modding through Overwolf instead of Steam and they plan to charge for access to certain mods with 50% of the revenue going to the modder.

5. Also per point 2, all holiday events for ASE have been reduced to much more muted versions of their original ones (because the game required updates by the devs to change maps and features to bring about the holiday events in full and with their limiting their support for ASE because of ASA). Events' basic features can still be access(and server owners and single player can set them any time of the year even) but mostly its just the colorized dinos or access to the skins(for your character or changing the looks of weapons or dinos too)

ASA will instead seemingly have the full holiday events available instead during their event seasons.



Whether then the above make you hesitant to get ASE or not depends on you. Obviously the devs are trying to direct and incentivize people to get ASA instead at this point so you can get ASA instead (or both if you wished to spend even more) or you can just choose to get ASE, or you can just wait to see how the dust settles with ASA (as if it doesnt do well there may be a return to support for ASE or not, etc.


I've personally been recommending people to just wait on ASA and perhaps only choose to get ASE if it goes into a steep discount sales price. Ultimately though the choices are yours.
Ark Survival Evolved is a total pet game the very best out there. Conan's pets were awful to use esp the horses. Gawd it was pain to ride a Conan horse. Trying to level C.E. pets nightmare obvious they only wanted you to have the special human pets not the animals.

But...

Ark is only a pet game. There's not much else to do. End game is breeding your collected pets together to get the best colors that appeal to your eye candy standards.

There's nothing else.

I mean as a pet game Ark rocks over all other games but dang son someone needs to look at adding some THEMEPARK content here.

On subject Conan strange thing most people don't know but it shines in the construction. Best self built housing for an mmorpg. Of course, EA sims will be better but if you need multiplayer house building Conan Exiles is top. Used to be Wildstar but that was more sci-fi so Conan still holds top house building online.
Konachibi Jun 12, 2023 @ 5:14am 
I wouldn't really call a T-Rex a pet, it's more of a monster that has chosen not to eat you for the time being, once it's tamed.

You can paint the dinosaurs once you have them, and the painting tool is surprisingly detailed. Not sure if putting makeup on a dinosaur is your thing, but I made a 'Pride'osaurus once, that get a few laughs from my friends.

One thing to be wary of though, the creatures you can tame in this game are significantly scarier and more dangerous than the things you come across in Conan Exiles, and you essentially have to work your way up the food chain to the larger and more destructive dinosaurs. You can't just sprint in, grab a baby one then run away before the adult has time to react, you need to tame the adult (unless you get insanely lucky and it lays an egg, then you could grab that I suppose).
6h0$t942 Jun 12, 2023 @ 2:09pm 
I appreciate the responses everyone. Thanks for your input
Zera_Fox Jun 12, 2023 @ 2:27pm 
Originally posted by retsam1:
Originally posted by 6h0$t942:
How are the pets in this game? I am looking for something with more depth than Conan in regards to minions. The pets in that game are kinda neat but ultimately get sidelined for other options.
Can you modify the dinosaurs in this game?
Are there supernatural pets?
Can you get better versions of similar monsters?
Are they useful or a novelty?

Also is there a way to avoid the "n@ked stone age no lifer breaks into your house when youre offline" thing? I don't care for someone investing very little being able to do a lot of damage. I know it's the internet but that's the main reason i didn't get into ark

4. Also per point 2, some modders plan to stop their mods or support for their mods in ASE due to moving to ASA. ASA is also going to allow modding through Overwolf instead of Steam and they plan to charge for access to certain mods with 50% of the revenue going to the modder.

To clarify here, Overwolf or WildCard aren't charging anyone to use mods. It's up to the Developer of the mod if they wish to charge for their work.
If they choose to charge for their work, then Overwolf will take a 50% cut of the sale.

Please stop confusing the Developer's choice to charge with a company's forced selection/option.

That being said, it could very well wind up that no mods are pay to use. As it is up to the Developer of that mod to decide, no one else's.
Last edited by Zera_Fox; Jun 12, 2023 @ 2:28pm
retsam1 Jun 13, 2023 @ 1:47am 
Originally posted by Zera_Fox:
Originally posted by retsam1:

4. Also per point 2, some modders plan to stop their mods or support for their mods in ASE due to moving to ASA. ASA is also going to allow modding through Overwolf instead of Steam and they plan to charge for access to certain mods with 50% of the revenue going to the modder.

To clarify here, Overwolf or WildCard aren't charging anyone to use mods. It's up to the Developer of the mod if they wish to charge for their work.
If they choose to charge for their work, then Overwolf will take a 50% cut of the sale.

Please stop confusing the Developer's choice to charge with a company's forced selection/option.

That being said, it could very well wind up that no mods are pay to use. As it is up to the Developer of that mod to decide, no one else's.


You're being silly.

For one at no point did I state it was a forced decision for all mods to be charged for. I clearly stated "certain mods".

If a modder(and some already have stated they will) makes the decision they wish to charge, it has to be -agreed upon- and -approved- by Wildcard secondarily Overwolf and with both taking their shares of the 50% going to them and the other 50% going to the modder. That's what their "premium" mods program entails. So yes, Overwolf and WIldcard are along with the modder planning to charge for those mods that Wildcard approves for the program.

In other words, it -is- Wildcard/Overwolf that makes the approval decision. If they decide a mod is not suitable for their premium service, then it wont be able to join said premium service. It is thus disingenuous to state and frame it like WC and Overwolf aren't the decision makers in this regard beyond the desire of the modder to want to join the premium service to make a buck from their mods.

I get you're trying to down play that but its silly when its just simply my reiterating what Wildcard has stated and that some modders, who have had their mods free on steam are going to instead opt to charge if they can get into that premium program. And how much they're going to charge of course tbd.
Last edited by retsam1; Jun 13, 2023 @ 2:02am
Zera_Fox Jun 13, 2023 @ 5:50am 
Originally posted by retsam1:
Originally posted by Zera_Fox:

To clarify here, Overwolf or WildCard aren't charging anyone to use mods. It's up to the Developer of the mod if they wish to charge for their work.
If they choose to charge for their work, then Overwolf will take a 50% cut of the sale.

Please stop confusing the Developer's choice to charge with a company's forced selection/option.

That being said, it could very well wind up that no mods are pay to use. As it is up to the Developer of that mod to decide, no one else's.


You're being silly.

For one at no point did I state it was a forced decision for all mods to be charged for. I clearly stated "certain mods".

If a modder(and some already have stated they will) makes the decision they wish to charge, it has to be -agreed upon- and -approved- by Wildcard secondarily Overwolf and with both taking their shares of the 50% going to them and the other 50% going to the modder. That's what their "premium" mods program entails. So yes, Overwolf and WIldcard are along with the modder planning to charge for those mods that Wildcard approves for the program.

In other words, it -is- Wildcard/Overwolf that makes the approval decision. If they decide a mod is not suitable for their premium service, then it wont be able to join said premium service. It is thus disingenuous to state and frame it like WC and Overwolf aren't the decision makers in this regard beyond the desire of the modder to want to join the premium service to make a buck from their mods.

I get you're trying to down play that but its silly when its just simply my reiterating what Wildcard has stated and that some modders, who have had their mods free on steam are going to instead opt to charge if they can get into that premium program. And how much they're going to charge of course tbd.
Your initial wording was more along the lines of WC/overwolf selecting mods to be paid for and that was that. 😝
Not downplaying anything, your wording gave the impression it was 100% their call and not anyone else's.
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