Game Keeps lagging out and kicking my friend off

[Feliciaty]

So this has been a problem for awhile now. It happens on any server too that isn't peer to host.

They'll load in then immediately lag out and get kicked. No other game with servers like this do it too. Minecraft works great even with a few hundred mods thrown on top of it. I was wondering if this is a common thing or if it's something to do with them.

Any insight would be appreciated!

[william_es]

Need a wee bit more information.

Are you talking about a non-dedicated server?

where you're the host of a game, and other players are joining your session. That game mode is notoriously buggy, and has many limitations... Such as tethering, where the other players can only follow you through the section of the map that you've loaded. If they move too far away, or the host enters certain zones, the others will all be teleported to you. Like dogs on a choke chain.

It's highly recommended to make a dedicated server.

A couple hundred mods in ark would be the most broken buggy unplayable mess in the world. Ark is a totally different game then minecraft, works a whole different way. Ark is based on the unreal game engine. It's a pretty demanding engine.

[Feliciaty]

Originally posted by william_es:

Need a wee bit more information.

Are you talking about a non-dedicated server?

where you're the host of a game, and other players are joining your session. That game mode is notoriously buggy, and has many limitations... Such as tethering, where the other players can only follow you through the section of the map that you've loaded. If they move too far away, or the host enters certain zones, the others will all be teleported to you. Like dogs on a choke chain.

It's highly recommended to make a dedicated server.

A couple hundred mods in ark would be the most broken buggy unplayable mess in the world. Ark is a totally different game then minecraft, works a whole different way. Ark is based on the unreal game engine. It's a pretty demanding engine.

We're actually using a server hosting service at the moment. But really this is the only game that has this problem.

[william_es]

Are there mods installed on the server?

are the people who are trying to join have all the mods already installed?

[retsam1]

Originally posted by Feliciaty:

We're actually using a server hosting service at the moment. But really this is the only game that has this problem.

Your friend can try going to the steam menu in the top left corner of their steam browser, then settings and then In-game tab. From there, the bottom left side of the window should have a server pings/minute setting. Have then set to 250.

If that then still doesnt alleviate their problem, have them come to this thread and then going to the steam help menu, clicking system information then copy pasted all that in their post so we can see if there are other further discrepancies that may have relevance.

[Bygone Specter]

Computer Information:
Manufacturer: ASUS
Model: System Product Name
Form Factor: Desktop
Touch Input Detected

Processor Information:
CPU Vendor: GenuineIntel
CPU Brand: 12th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-12900KS
CPU Family: 0x6
CPU Model: 0x97
CPU Stepping: 0x2
CPU Type: 0x0
Speed: 3418 Mhz
24 logical processors
16 physical processors
HyperThreading: Supported
FCMOV: Supported
SSE2: Supported
SSE3: Supported
SSSE3: Supported
SSE4a: Unsupported
SSE41: Supported
SSE42: Supported
AES: Supported
AVX: Supported
AVX2: Supported
AVX512F: Unsupported
AVX512PF: Unsupported
AVX512ER: Unsupported
AVX512CD: Unsupported
AVX512VNNI: Unsupported
SHA: Supported
CMPXCHG16B: Supported
LAHF/SAHF: Supported
PrefetchW: Unsupported

Operating System Version:
Windows 10 (64 bit)
NTFS: Supported
Crypto Provider Codes: Supported 311 0x0 0x0 0x0

Video Card:
Driver: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Ti
DirectX Driver Name: nvldumd.dll
Driver Version: 31.0.15.2849
DirectX Driver Version: 31.0.15.2849
Driver Date: 2 2 2023
OpenGL Version: 4.6
Desktop Color Depth: 32 bits per pixel
Monitor Refresh Rate: 59 Hz
DirectX Card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Ti
VendorID: 0x10de
DeviceID: 0x2203
Revision: 0xa1
Number of Monitors: 2
Number of Logical Video Cards: 2
No SLI or Crossfire Detected
Primary Display Resolution: 3840 x 2160
Desktop Resolution: 6400 x 2160
Primary Display Size: 27.48" x 15.47" (31.54" diag)
69.8cm x 39.3cm (80.1cm diag)
Primary Bus: PCI Express 1x
Primary VRAM: 24563 MB
Supported MSAA Modes: 2x 4x 8x

Sound card:
Audio device: Headphones (BS003B Stereo)

Memory:
RAM: 130813 MB

VR Hardware:
VR Headset: None detected

Miscellaneous:
UI Language: English
Media Type: Undetermined
Total Hard Disk Space Available: 3859904 MB
Largest Free Hard Disk Block: 1937169 MB
OS Install Date: Oct 18 2022
Game Controller: SpaceMouse Enterprise detected
MAC Address hash: 0c1d9f92d47bbbd97dcb490b8785873748c53ad7

Storage:
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I log in, and can vary between instant to several minutes. creatures start freezing, can't swap gear, and connection eventually kicks with a timeout message.

[Bygone Specter]

put it down to 250, at first thought it'd helped but then it did it again ='D

[Bygone Specter]

As a note of reference, I've been on Sons of the Forest with others for the last several days and had absolutely no issues at any time. Same with Elden Ring + the seamless co-op mod beyond the usual 'it's a mod forcing the game to do something different, so it makes weird bugs' stuff. Even tried switching server providers just in case and nah - no good.

[Bygone Specter]

-Servers used:

SurvivalServers
BisectHosting

[retsam1]

Originally posted by Bygone Specter:

Computer Information:
Manufacturer: ASUS
Model: System Product Name
Form Factor: Desktop
Touch Input Detected

Processor Information:
CPU Vendor: GenuineIntel
CPU Brand: 12th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-12900KS
CPU Family: 0x6
CPU Model: 0x97
CPU Stepping: 0x2
CPU Type: 0x0
Speed: 3418 Mhz
24 logical processors
16 physical processors
HyperThreading: Supported
FCMOV: Supported
SSE2: Supported
SSE3: Supported
SSSE3: Supported
SSE4a: Unsupported
SSE41: Supported
SSE42: Supported
AES: Supported
AVX: Supported
AVX2: Supported
AVX512F: Unsupported
AVX512PF: Unsupported
AVX512ER: Unsupported
AVX512CD: Unsupported
AVX512VNNI: Unsupported
SHA: Supported
CMPXCHG16B: Supported
LAHF/SAHF: Supported
PrefetchW: Unsupported

Operating System Version:
Windows 10 (64 bit)
NTFS: Supported
Crypto Provider Codes: Supported 311 0x0 0x0 0x0

Video Card:
Driver: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Ti
DirectX Driver Name: nvldumd.dll
Driver Version: 31.0.15.2849
DirectX Driver Version: 31.0.15.2849
Driver Date: 2 2 2023
OpenGL Version: 4.6
Desktop Color Depth: 32 bits per pixel
Monitor Refresh Rate: 59 Hz
DirectX Card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Ti
VendorID: 0x10de
DeviceID: 0x2203
Revision: 0xa1
Number of Monitors: 2
Number of Logical Video Cards: 2
No SLI or Crossfire Detected
Primary Display Resolution: 3840 x 2160
Desktop Resolution: 6400 x 2160
Primary Display Size: 27.48" x 15.47" (31.54" diag)
69.8cm x 39.3cm (80.1cm diag)
Primary Bus: PCI Express 1x
Primary VRAM: 24563 MB
Supported MSAA Modes: 2x 4x 8x

Sound card:
Audio device: Headphones (BS003B Stereo)

Memory:
RAM: 130813 MB

VR Hardware:
VR Headset: None detected

Miscellaneous:
UI Language: English
Media Type: Undetermined
Total Hard Disk Space Available: 3859904 MB
Largest Free Hard Disk Block: 1937169 MB
OS Install Date: Oct 18 2022
Game Controller: SpaceMouse Enterprise detected
MAC Address hash: 0c1d9f92d47bbbd97dcb490b8785873748c53ad7

Storage:
Disk serial number hash: 193d3ab9
Number of SSDs: 0
Number of HDDs: 0


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I log in, and can vary between instant to several minutes. creatures start freezing, can't swap gear, and connection eventually kicks with a timeout message.

For testing purposes (think of it as a test control) use an Official The Island server. The reason is they use only default settings and no mods. If you can play there and not disconnect, this may mean the server(s) that you're otherwise attempting to stay on have some sort of issue.

But there are other variables to also consider.

That said there are also some general upkeep things you should think about that also, just for the sake of making things do well, you may wish to be mindful of:

1. Right click ark in your steam library, select properties and then local and verify the integrity of local game files. 1-3 is typically normal and nothing untoward as it has to do with the dynamics of the server list. More than that may indicate you had bad game files that had to be redone.

2. Driver Date: 2 2 2023 With this you're 1 update behind. Use nvidia geforce experience for that.

However, there is ALSO an important patch update not yet on geforce experience that you need to get from the official nvidia website as well: https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5450/kw/hotfix


3. Number of Monitors: 2
Number of Logical Video Cards: 2
Primary Display Resolution: 3840 x 2160
Desktop Resolution: 6400 x 2160

Ark does not perform well in resolutions above 1900 x ----- ranges. Drop to 1 monitor and set your primary and desktop resolutions to a 1900 x ---- range.

4. If you are playing on a wifi connection. Switch to cable to see if it alleviates the issue(ie bad wifi fidelity).

5. Ensure that you do not have conflicts with any virus checkers or fire walls etc of course.

6. Other general things: dont overclock, dont use nvidia geforce experience in game overlay(geforce experience is ok just not the ingame overlay), dont use msi afterburner program, etc etc.


Square those different things and test first again via an official server. Then if no issues go to the other unofficial servers you play.

If after all that, you're still having issues, then there lastly could be an ISP issue.